Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-09-01 Thread Danny Noonan
True. JFW does however allow you to choose if you turn off forms mode when using navigation. This would be a nice feature set for VO. It currently isn't though unfortunately. :-) Danny. On 02/09/2013, at 2:07 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: > It does it already in ios. We'll see what happens. Reme

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-09-01 Thread Danny Noonan
Not trying to assign blame here. I actually was more commenting on the message thread subject than your specific message but as your message got sent to my phone it was the one that got responded too. You can never assume the mac works the way other systems do in regard to functionality and e

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-09-01 Thread Danny Noonan
Also, vo shift space will often click a link that vo space won't in my experience. Danny. On 01/09/2013, at 6:01 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: > I have that issue to, but I just keep clicking the link, but when you let's > say go from the item chooser and find the link you *have to* press the t

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-09-01 Thread Danny Noonan
QN does what its meant to do. People try to make it suit them and get frustrated. I agree, turn it off and type and then turn it on. It's a 2 finger key stroke. As for 1 letter navigation, I turned it off a long time ago as it's the factor that makes entering text into fields etc more complicat

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-09-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
It does it already in ios. We'll see what happens. Remember qn is not just for forms mode. Qn is for quickly navigating around the screen with out using both hands. so having it automatically turning off might not be such a good idea at times. If I want it off I'll do it. Remember apple makes yo

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-09-01 Thread William Lomas
I wish voice-over could be more intelligent; and turn off the quick Nav when you encounter a text box just like jaws. Sent from my iPhone On 1 Sep 2013, at 06:27, Parham Doustdar wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Thanks a lot for mentioning this! > On 9/1/2013 9:47 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: >> Agreed.

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Parham Doustdar
Hi Sarah, Thanks a lot for mentioning this! On 9/1/2013 9:47 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: Agreed. that's why I'm saying turn qn off if you are to type in a field. IN fact on a bt keyboard in ios generally qn is turn doff when you press up and down arrow to tap a field for editing. I generally u

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Lol. No problems. We all learn. I've been a mac user for 3 years and I am always learning new things in regards to what my mac can and cannot do. bbut I love qn as you can quickly get around stuff like dialogues and stuff. I don't know all of the key strokes but it is still very very useful. Tc

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Parham Doustdar
Hi Danny, Right. My fault then. By reading the Voiceover manual, I incorrectly assumed that making no mention of this behavior meant VO functions the same as screen readers on other platforms when interacting on a form field. I'm soon buying a Mac mini, so I'm glad stuff like this is brought

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Danny Noonan
To be correct, your problem is with quick nabs functionality rather than it being buggy. It works the way it's intended too. Danny. Sent from my iPhone On 01/09/2013, at 3:12 PM, Parham Doustdar wrote: > Hi all, > > The reason for quicknav, I'd think, is to quickly navigate to other items

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Agreed. that's why I'm saying turn qn off if you are to type in a field. IN fact on a bt keyboard in ios generally qn is turn doff when you press up and down arrow to tap a field for editing. I generally use it to move to a button then turn it off as I have access to other elements of vo and li

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Parham Doustdar
Hi all, The reason for quicknav, I'd think, is to quickly navigate to other items without turning it on and off all the time. Wouldn't interacting with a text box mean that you want all the keys to be typed, whereas when not interacting, you'd want them to be used as quicknav keys? Thanks. O

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Chris Gilland
c OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:01 PM Subject: Re: Incredibly annoying,not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav Hmm. maybe the page changes and you don't hear it. I've had dynamic pages like that where they change and you have to look for

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Hmm. maybe the page changes and you don't hear it. I've had dynamic pages like that where they change and you have to look for it. Try that as well. Good luck. On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Andy Collins wrote: > Sarah - No matter how many times I click the link, it doesn't work, nor > does us

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Andy Collins
Sarah - No matter how many times I click the link, it doesn't work, nor does using the item chooser, I've even interacted, brought the mouse pointer to the link with vo cmd f5, and done a single and double mouse click using vo shift space, but nothing works on those links - Andy On 31 Aug 201

Item chooser and web pages [was Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav]

2013-08-31 Thread Esther
Hi All, Just wanted to expand on Sarah's point about using item chooser menu on web pages: when you navigate with item chooser or links chooser menu on a web page, using VO-Space or pressing moves you to that location -- it does not activate a link. You might want to perform a selection that f

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I have that issue to, but I just keep clicking the link, but when you let's say go from the item chooser and find the link you *have to* press the thing twice as the first press moves it to the link, the second time clicks the link, or what ever the item might be. Tc. On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:30

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Sarah k Alawami
It won't. not unless qn is off. Remember vo plus enter starts selecting stuff so that is I think a feature. Also, just turn an off and type in tot eh field, hit enter and turn qn on. Easy fix there and this is how I get around web pages like google. Take care and try turning qn off before typin

Re: Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Andy Collins
All I can say, is that I regularly encounter times when clicking a link on a webpage produces nothing at all, like you say, it just sits there on the link. VO says link pressed, but it doesn't activate it! - Andy On 31 Aug 2013, at 20:11, Chris Gilland wrote: > OK, so normally, I don't know wh

Incredibly annoying, not to mention extremely buggy problem with Quicknav

2013-08-31 Thread Chris Gilland
OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan. My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down. Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceove