RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-28 Thread Matthew Chao
: Sunday, 28 September 2014 09:02 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? If one considers the possibility of being on the line with Apple Accessibility for 3 hours a pro, then go for it. I, personally, spent last Saturday, and this Saturday, dealing with resetting

RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-28 Thread Shaun Oliver
X iOS Accessibility Subject: RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? And what about the Bluetooth keyboard/QuickNav bug? Has that been resolved? Matthew Chao At 08:05 PM 9/27/2014, you wrote: One of those bugs with siri is easily overcome by single tapping the listen button just above the home key

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-28 Thread Sarah k Alawami
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2014 09:02 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? If one considers the possibility of being on the line with Apple Accessibility for 3 hours a pro, then go

RE: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-28 Thread Laurie Mehta
On Sat, 9/27/14, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote, in part: I'd sign up to be a beta tester, but, I don't want to spend my days compiling bug reports, so I wait for the final release. An observation: Blind beta testers help all concerned by

RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-28 Thread Laurie Mehta
On Sat, 9/27/14, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote, in part: I'd sign up to be a beta tester, but, I don't want to spend my days compiling bug reports, so I wait for the final release. An observation: Blind beta testers help all concerned by filing bug reports. If you don't particularly

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Timothy J. Meloy
. Glenn - Original Message - From: Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:57 PM Subject: RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? It's always a good idea to upgrade, even if the bugs haven't all been

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread eleanor martha burke
: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? It's always a good idea to upgrade, even if the bugs haven't all been ironed out, you'll find that there's always security fixes which are reason enough to upgrade. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun

RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Timothy J. Meloy Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:16 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? I have not experienced some of the voice over bugs that have been widely talked about. The pros outweigh

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Graham Smith
. Everyone to their own I guess. -Original Message- From: Shaun Oliver Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 6:06 To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? I may be seen as confrontational with this response, but, I'mnot concerned with that. What concerns

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Bryan Jones
ALthough I generally prefer to live on the bleeding edge when it comes to OS upgrades, I depend on a number of apps for work school and thus am sometimes willing to wait for clearance from Devs or other trustworthy and level-headed Users of critical apps before upgrading. For example, the

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Matthew Chao
, September 27, 2014 6:06 To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? I may be seen as confrontational with this response, but, I'mnot concerned with that. What concerns me, however, is the arrogants displayed by people who believe they know better than they who've

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Glenn
-access.net Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? I could not agree more. People that just sit back are not helping us at all. Perhaps if we all updated and showed our interest in getting things fixed it would all happen a lot quicker

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Well my niece who is sighted said the upgrade really messed up her iPad. - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Mark
...@gmail.com wrote: Well my niece who is sighted said the upgrade really messed up her iPad. - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Matthew Chao
. -Original Message- From: Shaun Oliver Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 6:06 To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? I may be seen as confrontational with this response, but, I'mnot concerned with that. What concerns me, however, is the arrogants displayed

RE: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2014 03:20 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? Well my niece who is sighted said the upgrade really messed up her iPad. - Original Message

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Diane Bomar
@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:57 PM Subject: RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? It's always a good idea to upgrade, even if the bugs haven't all been ironed out, you'll find that there's always security fixes which are reason enough to upgrade. -Original Message

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Diane Bomar
over side of some great software. Everyone to their own I guess. -Original Message- From: Shaun Oliver Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 6:06 To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? I may be seen as confrontational with this response, but, I'mnot

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Mark
] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2014 04:46 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? I am not going to upgrade to I OS 8 until there is some reliance upon usability. I don't believe there's any folly, in wanting to actually use the iPhone you have

RE: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2014 09:07 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? You make a good poing. Misery loves company, and maybe if enough people call the accessibility line, when VO stops talking

RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
how can I reproduce this one? -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2014 09:02 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? If one considers

RE: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
their devices won't break at the first upgrade. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2014 09:27 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Glenn
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 7:07 PM Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? I'm not suggesting for a minute you go in guns blazing. Read the documentation, read the various bug reports and anything else you can lay your hands on, but, don't dismiss upgrading out of hand, just

RE: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
for the final release. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2014 10:15 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? It's not like anyone is not going

iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Matthew Chao
Hi, Folks. I have an iPhone 5 running the latest version of iOS7. I've heard that 8.0.0 had problems regarding the Bluetooth keyboards working with VoiceOver. Has this been fixed in iOS8.0.2? Also, what about the sticking phone touch tone key? Thanks in advance for info. Matthew Chao

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
in this instant gratification craze, and save yourself some headache and wait for a while. Glenn - Original Message - From: Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:30 PM Subject: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? Hi, Folks. I have an iPhone 5

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Anna
From the update info list given during update there were no accessibilty bug fixes listed, mainly cellular connectivity fixes. I would wait. Anna Sent from my iPad On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, Folks. I have an iPhone 5 running the latest

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually I heard some of the accessibility bugs have been fixed and some work arounds as well. I myself will wait especially now that apple stopped code signing ios7 so down grading really is not a possibility anymore if you find somethign brakes. At the same time how ever the more of us that

RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Shaun Oliver
Alawami Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:25 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? Actually I heard some of the accessibility bugs have been fixed and some work arounds as well. I myself will wait especially now that apple stopped code signing ios7 so

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Glenn
I don't think we need to worry about security in version 7. Glenn - Original Message - From: Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:57 PM Subject: RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? It's always a good

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-26 Thread Diane Bomar
...@cableone.net wrote: I don't think we need to worry about security in version 7. Glenn - Original Message - From: Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:57 PM Subject: RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? It's