Re: Leopard Perl version... @ 1192462023

2007-10-17 Thread David Cantrell
Doug McNutt wrote: > At 15:29 +0100 10/16/07, David Cantrell wrote: >> The one I'm most looking forward to is perl being relocatable. Current >> versions of perl have the values for @INC hard-coded into the binary at >> compile-time. > > You can add to @INC in perl 5 by defining an environment va

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-16 Thread Edward Moy
On Oct 16, 2007, at 3:56 AM, David Cantrell wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 11:32:09AM -0700, Edward Moy wrote: So software updates are restricted to keep the size down. Because most users do not use the command-line or develop software, updates to command-line programs never make the cut

Re: Re: Leopard Perl version... @ 1192462023

2007-10-16 Thread Doug McNutt
At 15:29 +0100 10/16/07, David Cantrell wrote: >The one I'm most looking forward to is perl being relocatable. Current >versions of perl have the values for @INC hard-coded into the binary at >compile-time. You can add to @INC in perl 5 by defining an environment variable PERL5LIB.. If you defin

Re: Re: Leopard Perl version... @ 1192462023

2007-10-16 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 05:28:48PM +0200, Johan Meskens CS3 jmcs3 wrote: > > I *wish* it was 5.10 as that has some > > very nice features that I am excited about. > like what for example ? The one I'm most looking forward to is perl being relocatable. Current versions of perl have the values for

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-16 Thread Joel Rees
On 平成 19/10/16, at 19:56, David Cantrell wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 11:32:09AM -0700, Edward Moy wrote: So software updates are restricted to keep the size down. Because most users do not use the command-line or develop software, updates to command-line programs never make the cut

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-16 Thread David Cantrell
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 11:32:09AM -0700, Edward Moy wrote: >So software updates are restricted to keep the size down. > Because most users do not use the command-line or develop software, > updates to command-line programs never make the cut (developer > software has it own update

Re: Re: Leopard Perl version... @ 1192462023

2007-10-15 Thread Chas. Owens
On 10/15/07, Johan Meskens CS3 jmcs3 snip > > I *wish* it was 5.10 as that has some > > very nice features that I am excited about. > > like what for example ? snip Here are some of the things that are coming in Perl 5.10. * a switch statement: given($string) { when (/^

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-15 Thread jeremiah
On Oct 15, 2007, at 3:01 AM, Robert Hicks wrote: Cool and thanks for the answer. I *wish* it was 5.10 as that has some very nice features that I am excited about. I will definitely upgrade to 5.10 when it ships final. Robert 5.10 is going to be really great. And you can always get some

Re: Re: Leopard Perl version... @ 1192462023

2007-10-15 Thread Johan Meskens CS3 jmcs3
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Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-15 Thread Robert Hicks
Cool and thanks for the answer. I *wish* it was 5.10 as that has some very nice features that I am excited about. I will definitely upgrade to 5.10 when it ships final. Robert Edward Moy wrote: % perl -v This is perl, v5.8.8 built for darwin-thread-multi-2level ... It's been at 5.8.8 for qu

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-14 Thread Edward Moy
On Oct 14, 2007, at 7:28 AM, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of October 14, 2007 12:26:50 PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is alleged to have said: Why is that? Does Apple not provide the resources to make this possible? Personally I think they should because the Mac is a great development platform. I

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-14 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of October 14, 2007 12:26:50 PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is alleged to have said: Why is that? Does Apple not provide the resources to make this possible? Personally I think they should because the Mac is a great development platform. I think Apple would win more developers to the platform

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-14 Thread jeremiah
On Oct 14, 2007, at 11:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The subject line was "Leopard Perl version", Sorry, I misunderstood. so I said it's been 5.8.8 for quite a while. It is no secret that we (Apple) try our best to keep up-to-date with perl (and other opensource pro

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-14 Thread emoy
On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Bo Lindbergh wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Moy) wrote: % perl -v This is perl, v5.8.8 built for darwin-thread-multi-2level But still no 64-bit integers? As long as Configure says: Perl can be built to take advantage of 6

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-14 Thread emoy
dly, a bit ambiguous.) But, unless, 10.4 is tracking a different version between uNTEL and PPC, my system perl is 5.8.6 with all the current 10.4 updates installed. The subject line was "Leopard Perl version", so I said it's been 5.8.8 for quite a while. It is no secre

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-14 Thread Bo Lindbergh
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Moy) wrote: > % perl -v > > This is perl, v5.8.8 built for darwin-thread-multi-2level But still no 64-bit integers? /Bo Lindbergh

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-13 Thread Joel Rees
*ahem* Go back and read Mr Moy'ss email address. He may be in a position to answer this question definitively. :-) FWIW, I didn't see Ed saying that it had been 5.8.8 in _10.4_ for quite a while. (His mode of expression was, admittedly, a bit ambiguous.) But, unless, 10.4 is tracking a d

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-13 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Borys" == Borys Sobieski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Borys> I just checked it on Leopard Developer Preview Build 9A559 and it is Borys> Perl Ver. 5.8.8 This post is likely to be a violation of your NDA, is it not? Good luck getting your ADC renewed. :( -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-13 Thread David Cantrell
On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 08:51:52PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > (5.10 is rumored to be frozen too, but don't hold your breath. :^) ) It isn't. Raphael was still applying patches earlier today. -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-13 Thread Chris Devers
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:50:22 +0200 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Edward Moy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: MacPerl Perl > Subject: Re: Leopard Perl version... > > Hmm, are you sure you did not update your perl yoursel

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-13 Thread Borys Sobieski
I just checked it on Leopard Developer Preview Build 9A559 and it is Perl Ver. 5.8.8 Am 13.10.2007 um 20:52 schrieb Geoffrey F. Green: Leopard. On Oct 13, 2007, at 2:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, are you sure you did not update your perl yourself? I have a Macmini from April 2007 (

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-13 Thread Geoffrey F. Green
Leopard. On Oct 13, 2007, at 2:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, are you sure you did not update your perl yourself? I have a Macmini from April 2007 (OS X 10.4.10) and it says: $ perl -v This is perl, v5.8.6 built for darwin-thread-multi-2level On Oct 13, 2007, at 8:42 PM, Edward Moy w

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-13 Thread jeremiah
On Oct 13, 2007, at 8:42 PM, Edward Moy wrote: It's been at 5.8.8 for quite a while. 5.10 is just around the corner, but too late for Leopard. Neither one is out yet, but I assume Leopard is pretty well frozen? (5.10 is rumored to be frozen too, but don't hold your breath. :^) )

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-13 Thread jeremiah
Hmm, are you sure you did not update your perl yourself? I have a Macmini from April 2007 (OS X 10.4.10) and it says: $ perl -v This is perl, v5.8.6 built for darwin-thread-multi-2level On Oct 13, 2007, at 8:42 PM, Edward Moy wrote: % perl -v This is perl, v5.8.8 built for darwin-thread-mu

Re: Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-13 Thread Edward Moy
% perl -v This is perl, v5.8.8 built for darwin-thread-multi-2level ... It's been at 5.8.8 for quite a while. 5.10 is just around the corner, but too late for Leopard. Ed On Oct 12, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Robert Hicks wrote: Is it being bumped up to 5.8.8? I am just curious... Robert

Leopard Perl version...

2007-10-13 Thread Robert Hicks
Is it being bumped up to 5.8.8? I am just curious... Robert