Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hmmm, very interesting, Gigi. I wonder what sort of line count you could set it to. As for keystrokes, I find that control-tab does work, reasonably or unreasonably, and I like that method, because it puts me right into the conversation, and I can VO left and right and listen to the entire text

Re: Mac for college

2011-10-14 Thread Gavin
Hi Louis, The MacBook Pro has better specs, so it will be able to process large audio or video files faster. I'm not sure what the specs of the latest MacBook Pros are. I've got an early 2011 model with 4 GB of RAM, an Intel COre I5 processor running at 2.3 GHz, and a 320 GB hard disk. What

Re: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
can't even se up I cloud using my I phone 4. I'm glad ow'm getting rid of it as the 4 S may be better. I can't even syc the device wirelessly with Itunes. Kawal. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Oct 2011, at 03:09 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello, It's been saying moving data for over 8

Re: Mac for college

2011-10-14 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Louis, The pro 13 inch highest model gives a very good experience, just like the air does, from a daily user's perspective, and from what I understand in my experiences compared to those of a nearby friend who has an air, they don't differ very much in usability speed. The air has a solid

Re: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-14 Thread Chris Moore
I had issues moving mobileme to iCloud and tried all day yesterday. I just tried 30 minutes ago and worked this time. I have even successfully backed up my iPhone 3GS to the cloud, so no more having to plug my phone into iTunes. Give it another go. Chris On 14 Oct 2011, at 09:06, Kawal

Re: Mac for college

2011-10-14 Thread Pete Nalda
I don't know if the current Pro line still come with DVD drives, but if so, that's yet another reason to go with a Pro model over an Air. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'Day, Mates) Louie P. Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda/ http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda/

Re: Mac for college

2011-10-14 Thread James Scholes
I just purchased a 13-inch MacBook Air with a 256GB SSD, 1.8GHz Intel Core i7 CPU and 4GB of RAM. It runs OS X Lion and Windows 7 Pro 64-bit (via Bootcamp) brilliantly. Don't let the slow processor speed put you off. Boot times, especially from sleep, are extremely short (from a sleep state,

google crome not downloading! please help!

2011-10-14 Thread trahern culver
hey all i'm trying to download google crome from the mane download page but every time i click agree and download it takes me to a thank you page but nothing downloads does any one know what the problem is? thanks for your help kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are

Re: Mac for college

2011-10-14 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hello Louis. I just recently went through a switch from Windows. I chose the MacBook Pro because I needed USB ports. My braille display is not Bluetooth. If you're using a braille display, that may be a factor. I looked the MacBookAir, but that's why I didn't get it. I really wanted one

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-14 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Teresa. I just looked with command comma. It goes to five lines back to none. The first thing that comes up is viewing in classic mode. Then if you keep pressing tab it goes the line count option. Now, this last time, VO just said none and did not explain too much. I guess I better set VBO

Moveing over to iCloud, but can't get past mobileMe sign in page.

2011-10-14 Thread johns.kary
Hi guys, possibly this has been asked, but to be honest I just don't have the time at the moment to trawl through emails to see. I'm trying to move over to iCloud, I get to the mobileMe sign in page, sign in with my mobileMe details, get a page with all my contacts, and that's it. How do I get

Re: Moveing over to iCloud, but can't get past mobileMe sign in page.

2011-10-14 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi again guys. I promise to stop posting for a while, but I wanted to make the comment that I think part of our problem is iTunes. It got real quiet and VoiceOver never said everything it was doing. It got quiet so long that I pressed the power key on my iPhone and my iPhone told me that more

Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-14 Thread Nektarios Mallas
Hay, I think that you are on for a clean install my friend. It will solve many of your problems, including faster boot times. Nektarios. On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: I could be sarchastic and reply, how the hell would I know?, but no. I aint gonna do that. the simple

iCloud contact on iPhone not showing up on mac

2011-10-14 Thread Chris Westbrook
I am starting to use iCloud and it looks really cool. I just have one question. I have set up both my mac and iPhone to use iCloud. I just looked for a contact that I put on my phone and it wasn't in my address book on my mac. When I looked on iCloud.com it was there. Am I missing

RE: iCloud contact on iPhone not showing up on mac

2011-10-14 Thread Daniel Miller
Try quitting and restarting addressbook after about a minute. That should fix the issue. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Westbrook Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 7:30 AM To:

Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-14 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Could be right. However, I no longer have the Lion install file. Can I assume that I can get it back? OF course, I do have that disk thingie that let's you put lion on to a USB drive and do the clean install from there. Recovery disk I believe it's called. Anybody did a clean install off

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-14 Thread Chris Westbrook
I just noticed that in classic layout the tab key works just as it did in 10.7.1. Interesting. I wrote accessibility about this and will be interested to hear their reply. I think I'll use classic layout for now. On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: The problem with using the VO+J

Re: Moveing over to iCloud, but can't get past mobileMe sign in page.

2011-10-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
You have to go to me.com/move Anyway it's not working for me yet. Kawal. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Oct 2011, at 01:16 PM, johns.kary johns.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, possibly this has been asked, but to be honest I just don't have the time at the moment to trawl through emails to

iCloud on a Mac

2011-10-14 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Hi All, I have a, or had a, Mobile Me account, I have now transferred this to iCloud. Since Mobile Me still shows in my System Preferences area, and at that, shows as connected and in sync, how am I supposed to utilise iCloud on my Mac? I'm using oSX v10.7.2, but can find no iCloud settings

Re: iCloud contact on iPhone not showing up on mac

2011-10-14 Thread Chris Westbrook
I actually had to sign out of iCloud in system preferences and then sign back in again and now all is working. Wow iCloud is really slick. I deleted a contact from my computer and it was instantly deleted from my phone. Holy cow. On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: Try

Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-14 Thread James Malone
Hey, one simple question here. Have they fixed the item chooser, if not anything else, in Safari? I refuse to upgrade if they still haven't fixed that. Really, on my Mac, Safari is almost unusable, even after repairing permitions, and this is from a clean install. On 10/15/11, Ray Foret Jr

Re: iCloud contact on iPhone not showing up on mac

2011-10-14 Thread Chris Blouch
I think iCloud will finally push me over the edge to upgrade to osx 10.7. I was disappointed but not surprised that most of the iOS to OSX iCloud stuff doesn't work at all unless you're on Lion. CB On 10/14/11 10:21 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: I actually had to sign out of iCloud in system

Mail navigation in Lion

2011-10-14 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Ray, I have noticed this as well. Thought I was going crazy, but remembered I downloaded the new update and that is hwen the problem started. I find if I press the right arrow on a conversation it will expand the thread and I can see all the messages contained in it. I hope this helps.

Re: Mac for college

2011-10-14 Thread Anne Robertson
The MacBook Air has two USB ports so you can use a USB Braille display with it. You can also get a USB external DVD drive designed especially for the MBA. It's also true that MS Office does not work with VoiceOver. However, Word, Excel and PowerPoint documents can be opened with iWork09.

Re: Mail navigation in Lion

2011-10-14 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Yeah, usually, that's how it works for me also. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Ray, I have noticed this as well.

Re: Mac for college

2011-10-14 Thread Cody
For all of your office work you want iWork 09 or 11 what ever one is out. It sounds like a macbook pro would work best for you, not sure about the air, although the air would be cheaper…yes, ms office does not work On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Louis Do wrote: Hello. i am planning on

Re: Mac for college

2011-10-14 Thread Cody
For clarification, the macbook made from white plastic is no longer available On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:57 PM, Gavin wrote: Hi Louis, It sounds like a MacBook Air would be your best bet, though I don't know what kind of specs it has. I've also heard that the MacBook Air has a similar price

Re: Trouble with moving items dock

2011-10-14 Thread Traci
Wow, thank you guys. For some reason, I thought command-shift-T moved items to the sidebar. Anyway, worked like a charm. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Oct 13, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Brett C. wrote: If you would like to move an application to the doc, open the app, find it on the doc,

Selecting from beginning or end?

2011-10-14 Thread Traci
Hi all, I know the commands for shift-down-arrow and shift-up-arrow, but are there commands to select from where I am to the beginning or the end? It would be so nice to select multiple messages at once. Lol, especially with tech list traffic so high right now for the iPhone. Thanks, Traci

Re: Selecting from beginning or end?

2011-10-14 Thread Esther
Hi Traci, Shift-Command-Down Arrow and Shift-Command-Up Arrow will select from your current position to the end or beginning of text, but this doesn't work in mail messages. In Snow Leopard (but not in Lion, I think), you can use the Option key in the Mail messages table. And Shift-Option-Up

Re: Selecting from beginning or end?

2011-10-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Traci, I haven't tried this in a message list yet, but in a text document, you can use command-shift-up-arrow to select to beginning and command-shift-down-arrow to select from the cursor to the end. HTH, Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P.

Re: Selecting from beginning or end?

2011-10-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks for clarifying that, Esther. I just did a bit of experimenting, and found out that you can hold down the up- or down-arrow keys while also holding down shift and command until VO tells you how many messages are selected, or until the bell chimes for the top or the bottom of the list. I

my issues with iCloud.

2011-10-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Dear All. I wanted to write to both lists as I know many of us had been having trouble with Migrating from Mobile Me. I wish to thank Mark Taylor who helped me over Skype to resolve my issues as I was ready to call Apple. For those who may be still having issues, I wanted to describe the

Re: Downloading brf files from the Web in IOS5?

2011-10-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
Oh, I wasn't reading with Braille, so I didn't pick up on the name of the app: Filer. Ok, I have that now; will continue experimenting. :) Thanks, Teresa Nobody ever tells me anything!--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, Ana,

Disregard! Was Re: Downloading brf files from the Web in IOS5?

2011-10-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
Oops, wrong list; sorry. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Oct 14, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Oh, I wasn't reading with Braille, so I didn't pick up on the name of the app: Filer. Ok, I have that now; will continue experimenting. :) Thanks, Teresa Nobody ever tells me

[Mac-cessibility News] AppleTV Software 4.4 Includes VoiceOver Enhancements

2011-10-14 Thread Maccessibility
AppleTV Software 4.4 Includes VoiceOver Enhancements With the other software releases Apple has rolled out this week comes a new update to the iOS software which powers the AppleTV. Along with new features that provide access to movie trailers, National Hockey League coverage, etc, are some

looking for lion quick reference card

2011-10-14 Thread Denise Avant
hello all, i am looking for a lion quick reference card in either text or word format. is there such a thing, and if so where can i find it? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-14 Thread Tom Frank
Hi all, I had the tab problem and found a solution before reading this thread. Try pressing tab twice. The second one is a charm. Shift tab once brings you back just like before. Tom Frank vermont...@gmail.com On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: I just noticed that in

Re: Mac for college

2011-10-14 Thread Louis Do
Does iWorks come with a Mac or must it be purchased separately? if so, ow much does it cost? On 10/14/11, Cody cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: For clarification, the macbook made from white plastic is no longer available On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:57 PM, Gavin wrote: Hi Louis, It sounds like a

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
That doesn't work in my case, unfortunately. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Oct 14, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Tom Frank wrote: Hi all, I had the tab problem and found a solution before reading this thread. Try pressing tab twice. The second one is a charm. Shift tab once

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-14 Thread Chris Westbrook
Weird, what happens when you hit tab twice? Works great for me. On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: That doesn't work in my case, unfortunately. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Oct 14, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Tom Frank wrote: Hi all, I had the tab

interacting with items using the focus 40 blue

2011-10-14 Thread Priscilla Garces
Hey all, I would like to know the comands for interacting with voice over on the focus 40 blue. I got the display yesterday, it was great. i never immagined it interacting with voice over like a breeze once i pluged in the USB. Anyway. how do i interact with tables with the braille display

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-14 Thread Traci
Control-Tab is fine for me, then control-shift-tab to return to the msg list. Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: Weird, what happens when you hit tab twice? Works great for me. On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: That doesn't

Moderator help please

2011-10-14 Thread Tammy Cantrell
I need to go no mail on this list. Would you please help? Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-14 Thread Teresa Cochran
Nothing happens when I hit tab twice. I might try full screen. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: Weird, what happens when you hit tab twice? Works great for me. On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: That