Hello all,
To make a long story short, there is a website and discussion forum which I
must routinely use for a distance education course. When navigating to the page
where I can post new discussion topics, VO would crash and restart whenever I
navigated to the region where I could enter the
I can tell you you do not need bluetooth to use text message forwarding or to
make and receive phone calls from an iPad or Mac. So long as they're all
connected to the same wifi network and signed into the same iCloud account it
should just work.
On 24 Oct 2014, at 05:17, Agent086b
Hi all
I tried iBooks last night by opening an Epub document from my iCloud Drive.
Sure enough, VoiceOver read the book, or at least sporadically anyway, but how
do I actually navigate the text? Is this even possible? Great to see iBooks
fully accessible under Yosemite though.
Any help greatly
Hi Barry,
I don’t think it is. For one, it says vertical layout, not vertical text.
Secondly, I was told when I printer with horizontal layout that my page was in
landscape layout. When I then printed in vertical layout, I was told that I had
fixed the problem and my page was in portrait
I can confirm the first problem on my late 2011 Macbook Pro 13.
On 24 Oct 2014, at 02:09, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com
wrote:
I’ve noticed a couple of bugs with VoiceOver and AppleScript dialog boxes
since upgrading to Yosemite, and am interested whether anyone else has
There is no Audible download manager or any other specific app for downloading
Audible books on the Mac.
You cannot download Audible books with iTunes. You can buy Audible books with
iTunes, though the prices are much more expensive and you cannot use your
Audible membership credits, and you
Christopher, do you not have the problem with text echo when typing in the
dialog box?
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The only script I have is an alert to tell me a file has been added to my
Downloads folder. All you get is a yes button and a no button, nothing to type
in this dialogue. Sorry can't help.
On 24 Oct 2014, at 08:11, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com
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Christopher, do you
I can't remember how to do that searching, though did know once.
Aaah, I'm thinking of two different things, I forgot you can do braille
input on a home screen, but was thinking about getting into Spotlight
searches on the device as a whole.
Thanks, Me.
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For me in Yosemite, in Classic View all messages are announced as
conversations, even if they are not. IN standard view, on the other hand, the
read/unread status is back to the beginning of what VoiceOver announces, but
for me VoiceOver announces all messages as unread, even if they are in
I cannot confirm any of these on my Late 2011 Macbook Pro 13. I can both show
the downloads window in Safari and activate links in email messages in Mail.
On 23 Oct 2014, at 23:16, Rich Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote:
I have two unrelated questions. First, since installing Yosemite, I can no
Here is a link to the Textedit help topic.
https://help.apple.com/textedit/mac/10.10/index.html?localePath=en.lproj#txted35481
https://help.apple.com/textedit/mac/10.10/index.html?localePath=en.lproj%23txted35481
I found it with layout as the keyword.
On Oct 24, 2014, at 1:56 AM, Nicholas
Hello Nick,
I’ve just tried the selecting and copying in Preview and it’s very strange. I
tried with two different files: one downloaded from the internet and copying
with VO-Return navigating through the text, then VO-Return again and Cmd-c
worked fine, as did VO-a and copying the whole file;
Hello Nick,
I never use the Recovery partition as it downloads a new version of the OS
which takes too long. I always make a bootable USB key and install from that. I
then restore my data from my Time Machine backup. Below is how to make a
bootable USB key, you’ll need an 8 GB drive.
Cheers,
Seeing the contradictory experiences of clicking links in Yosemite Mail
messages I have noticed the following.
1. If I open a mail by pressing enter I find I cannot execute the link.
2. If however I interact with the message with VO J I can execute the link as
normal.
I do not know if that
Hello David,
Links work just fine for me. I have Mail in Classic view. I have conversations
turned off. I have the Preview pane turned off. I open a message by pressing
Return. I find links by pressing VO-Cmd-l.
Cheers,
Anne
On 24 Oct 2014, at 11:02, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com
Hello Nick,
This sounds like an awfully convoluted way to download Audible books. I just
click the link to my library, then press VO-Cmd-t to get to the table. I then
interact with the table and navigate right until I find first the name of the
book, then much further right, the download link.
Well, I’ll give you that, Barry. :) Based on that support document, you seem to
be right that make layout vertical is for languages that write vertically.
However, I still can’t reconcile that with what I was told by sighted
colleagues that it changed the page layout from landscape to portrait.
Hi list,
This bug has been discussed before in relation to Pages, but this is the first
time I’ve noticed it in TextEdit. Just tried to select a paragraph in TextEdit
which wrapped over a page. It didn’t work. I was left selecting only the
portion of the text on the second page. IN fact, when
Awesome, thanks, Anne! Seeing I have already installed Yosemite, but have a
copy of the Install OS X Yosemite.app on a USB drive, should I replace the
reference to /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Yosemite.app to use the file path to
the app on my other USB device? And I notice that the terminal
I too can open links in Mail just fine.
I am running Yosemite.
I have Mail in Classic view, but I have conversations (i.e. group related
messages) enabled.
I use command-o to open messages.
I don't think it's relevant to classic view, but I have preview pane turned off
when I switch to standard
Hello Nick,
Why not make it easy on yourself and copy the Install app into your
Applications folder, then you wouldn't have to change anything.
Cheers,
Anne
On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:11, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com
wrote:
Awesome, thanks, Anne! Seeing I have already
Hello Nick,
Have you tried switching the view using Cmd-Shift-w?
Cheers,
Anne
On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:02, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi list,
This bug has been discussed before in relation to Pages, but this is the
first time I’ve noticed it in TextEdit.
Hi Anne (and others),
yes, my way is certainly more convoluted. Your way is much simpler. I used to
do it that way too, at least whenever the automatic download feature didn't
work. However, more recently that stopped working for me, hence the resort to
the more convoluted method.
Certainly
P.S. That TextEdit site had a bunch of other useful stuff on it well worth
reading.
On 24 Jan 2014, at 8:57 pm, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com
wrote:
Well, I’ll give you that, Barry. :) Based on that support document, you seem to
be right that make layout vertical is for
Haha, okay, I thought you might say that. Was hoping to avoid the need for
copying that 6GB file more than I needed to, but I suppose you're right, it
will be much easier and probably worth the time to get an installation drive.
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Hello Nick,
Yes, that column is labeled Listen. I'm with Audible.com http://audible.com/
but they seem to be pretty much the same. I just downloaded a book in two parts
this morning and all is working well.
Cheers,
Anne
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Hello Nick,
Wrap to window makes editing work properly, but if you want to skip through a
document page-by-page, you need to switch to wrap to page. At least there's a
short cut for this.
Cheers,
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Strange indeed. The issue I was getting with not being able to copy at all I
think was related to having just performed a search. I’m guessing some kind of
search dialog pops up which blocks the view or for some reason stops one from
being able to copy text. I couldn’t work out how to make the
Hello Nick,
I haven’t got a lot of PDFs on my computer and none of them are long. I haven’t
tried the Search facility either. As for copying text, it’s a nuisance that
PDFs have new lines everywhere, preventing us from making use of the VO
commands for reading by sentence or paragraph. I
As for me, I use standard mail view with conversations turned on and open
e-mails with return and find links using CMD+l and open with VO+space.
Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
Depending on whether you are in single or two page view you can navigate
by single or two pages simply by pressing the up and down arrow keys.
Theoretically I think you should be able to navigate by chapter with
shift command left and right arrow from memory but I am not sure about
this yet as
Hi.
Does anyone here know if VoiceOver (both on Mac and iOS) are able to
read tables on the web that uses the aria-describedby tag?
Here is an example, though in norwegian (just so you understand what
kind of tables I meean).
Hope for good answers.
Best regards David Hole
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Links work normally for me too. I use Standard View, conversations enabled, no
preview pane, and I open messages with enter. I can use vo-cmd-l, or interact
with the text and simply arrow to a link.
On Oct 24, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
As for me, I use
Probably depends on how it's being used. Your example didn't come through.
CB
On 10/24/14, 9:22 AM, David Hole wrote:
Hi.
Does anyone here know if VoiceOver (both on Mac and iOS) are able to
read tables on the web that uses the aria-describedby tag?
Here is an example, though in norwegian
Hi guys
I guess I should have paid more attention to what y’all were saying about the
insertion point. Let me tell you a simple thing that it took me an hour to
figure out. If you are in Numbers, and you want to type a formula yourself
instead of using the menu, after you type the equals sign,
Although Mavericks may not be in the app store, I had to downgrade once using
my Time Machine backup. I had to copy my documents folder to somewhere first so
I could fix it after I did the downgrade.
Gigi
On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com wrote:
So, the issue
How do you get VoiceOver to say each character when typing in grade 2 with the
Braille keyboard? It's doing character by character in grade 1, but not in
grade 2. I am having some trouble always getting to the automatic translation
so that I can change whether the iPhone waits for a space or
I have just done both these things successfully, oddly enough. CMD-Option-L
still worked to show me the download I was doing and I started it by clicking
the link in a Mail message. Hmmm.
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http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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In Maverick, it was a simple thing to install the software for my Samsung
ML-3312nd Series laser printer. I:
1.
Opened System Preferences.
2.
Opened Printers and Scanners.
3.
Selected the Add button. Since the printer is on my network via an Ethernet
cable, it was located
I don't think you can. My keyboard echo is set to character, and I hear the
characters in 6-dot mode. Like you, though, I hear nothing when using
contracted braille, so I'm still using 6-dot for now.
On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
How do you get VoiceOver
I want to prepare a USB thumbdrive yosemite installer. Do I first hit the
yosemite upgrade button in the app store, then am I given a chance to abort the
actual install once it is downloaded to my mac?
I'm a little bit leary about hitting upgrade when all I want to do is get the
installer, and
I know everyone is just getting acclimated to the new OS, and probably haven't
gotten around to testing out the new upgrades to these three apps (pages,
numbers, and iMovie).
I'm hoping for two things:
1) they haven't broken numbers with the Yosemite upgrade.
2) iMovie accessibility has been
Hello Phil,
Yes, you click the Upgrade button and once the download is finished, the
installer will be launched. At this point, you can just quit the installer and
you'll find the Install app in your Applications folder.
The instructions I posted earlier explain what to do next.
Cheers,
Anne
If you command tab away from the installer at the point it says continue
you should be able to find the installer in your applications f That is
what I did.
older. Copy it to a different location and then quit the installer at
that point to abort the installation.
David Griffith
On
Hello Phil,
The only one I'm using is Pages and so far, the only problem I've encountered
is the reappearance of a bug that had been fixed. We can no longer access the
menu button to the right of each paragraph style in the paragraph styles table.
We have to bring the mouse and turn on Mouse
I don't know what would be more reliable and faster about using Google Chrome
for Audible instead of safari, but to each his/her own! You can even tab to the
download button once you find the book or if you know it's the top one just do
a vo-f to find download or use the rotor. Lots of options!
Not only does copying and pasting not work in Preview any more, but it doesn’t
work either in PDF Pen Pro.
Gigi
On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Nicholas Parsons
mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi list,
Am I right that selecting text in Preview no longer works, or no longer works
There are several things you need to think about and check here. Did you try
changing file page setup. There's a specific landscape/portrait setting there
which is by default on portrait. Also, right in the print window when you use
cmd-p or do file Print there's a place to choose between
I use it with dom order and without grouping and i don't have this problem or
at least I didn't last time I downloaded from Audible. When something stops
working for you it might be that something has changed on the website but it's
always a good idea to check your safari settings to see if
This is what I usually do too. And this morning when I opened something in
Preview and it said static text I could still select all and copy it into
text edit.
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Hi,
If you’re using iMap with Gmail, and you attempt to quit Mail too quickly after
performing a delete message, move message or something like that, Mail will
often either give you an error saying that it couldn’t complete the task or it
may just sit there for some time trying to complete the
Yes, I get the same thing, Andrew. Thanks Alex and Andrew for letting me know
you are not having this problem. Everything I tried to get the arrow keys to
begin working on threads would not work, not even rebooting my computer. Then
suddenly for no reason that I cannot figure out, the arrow
Hi everyone,
I too have a 4s. It was time for me to upgrade, I chose to move to android,
primarily because it was going to be cheaper along with my accessibility on my
chosen phone was similar to what I get with voiceover. I kept my phone
relegating it to airplane mode in order to continue to
Hi,
Having upgraded to Yosemite, I have just discovered that I can’t read any of my
pdf files in Preview.
I open a file in Preview, voiceover announces “pdf content group”. I interact
with it and voiceover announces “static text. I can’t seem to do anything with
it from that point.
Hello,
Try highlighting all the text, copy it and then put it into textedit. If there
is actual text in the pdf file, this should work for now.
HTH
On Oct 24, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
Hi,
Having upgraded to Yosemite, I have just discovered that I can’t read
I only hear it give dots format when it's not a character, it has to wait
for the whole word to interpret it. mBraille has been known to just say the
phonym like ING, ER, OF, and so on. That would be good for this version
too.
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Supposing you have Yosemite and 8.1 on your phone, the way to receive or make
calls on the Mac is to sign into FaceTime then on your phone you have to turn
on cellular forwarding as well as messages forwarding. Hope this helps.
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Right ok, can't make or receive calls on my iPad either, maybe I'm not
signed into FaceTime on there for some reason, cellular calls are on for
both iPhone and iPad. Messages are working a treat though.
On 24/10/2014 20:01, Pete Nalda wrote:
Supposing you have Yosemite and 8.1 on your phone,
You can't. Some say it's a bug, others say it's by design because of how
the translator works. I did suggest to Apple that dot patterns such as
1-2-3-4-5-6 could be announced so that we know by pattern what's about
to be translated.
On 24/10/2014 15:35, Eugenia Firth wrote:
How do you get
Yes! Try signing into FaceTime on your iPad, then try dialing a number from
your contacts. It should work, as it did on my Macbook Pro. Note that also,
you DO need both devices on the same Wifi network. So, with the phone settings
I mentioned earlier, which it seems you have set, then
Hi,
Sometimes when I command tab between applications or hit command r to refresh
in Safari, I get the same sound I hear if I try to move beyond a boundary such
as the top of the message list in Mail.
Are keys sticking or is something else going on?
I didn’t notice this under Mavericks.
Hello everyone,
With reference to the unlabeled buttons in mail earlier in life and Yosemite
do you think this was a simple oversight on the part of Apple accessibility or
do you think this is something we as voiceover users are going to have to learn
to deal with?
Pam Francis
On Oct 23,
I just wanted to mention that the work-around for opening pdfs in Preview and
getting them to read - selecting the file in finder, turning off voiceover,
opening the file, turning vo back on, interacting twice with the content - does
work. However, I also want to note that the same problem
Ok, all is working. But wow! I just called my VoiceMail to change a
setting, and I was able to both use the keypad and hear the dtmf tones
all from my iPad! So finally we may have a solution to those moments
where it's hard to hear VoiceOver during a call, especially in an
automated system!
Hi all,
Has anyone figured out how to adjust the timeline in Time Machine with VO under
Yosemite?
After launching Time Machine from within a folder or application, I can hit
VO+F2 twice quickly to bring up the window chooser, then choose the Time
Machine window. However, I can’t figure out
Glad it’s working for you. I finally found out how to do it using the help
menu on the Mac.
On Oct 24, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
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Ok, all is working. But wow! I just called my VoiceMail to change a setting,
and I was able to both use the
Hi all.
My external sound card is broken, and I need a new one. I need a high end sound
card thunderbold or USB 3.0. I use it for recording with protools and in the
future I will try to use logic. I also use it for connecting to my receiver to
obtain better sound quality.
Best regards Annie.
That was the problem!
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On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:34 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
I am seeing the downloads window fine. It may be hat you need to have
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I would guess that it was an oversight, but not being part of the testing or
development crew, I couldn’t be positive. Now, for my own part, I initially
wasn’t paying much attention to this thread and have subsequently looked for
these unlabelled buttons and have been unable to locate
Do you need a 'card' or just an interface? For my little bit of
recording I use the Art USB Dual Pre which takes two XLR or 1/4 mic or
line level inputs and appears as a USB audio device which you can then
record with whatever you like. It's 16-bit 44Khz resolution so if you're
into the 192K
Hi.
I need an interface.
Best regards Annie.a
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Do you need a 'card' or just an interface? For my little bit of recording I
use the Art USB Dual Pre which takes two XLR or 1/4 mic or line
Hello
I think saying the dots out what take forever. I really think that with the
screen input, unless you were using a brill display, is got to have the default
of translation as you go. Mit's a real pain to type a big long word, only to
find out that it's got a big mistake in it, and then you
When you get an email message, press enter on it in the index. Interact where
it says embedded and arrow right and you will find four unlabeled buttons. They
are between where it says message headers and where it says text; they have no
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How do I get the Outbox folder to show in iCloud Mail in Mavericks?
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Hello friends:
I seem to be having difficulties with iTunes 12. I never used the Grid
view, always preferring the List view. Is the Grid view the only
viewing option on iTunes 12? If not, how can I go back to the List
view? I've looked through the preferences and menus, and cannot find
anything
I have only had this problem when the Messages app was open. Otherwise it does
not occur for me at this time.
On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
Hi,
If you’re using iMap with Gmail, and you attempt to quit Mail too quickly after
performing a delete message, move
Hi,
In grid view, you can play an episode by moving vo to it and pressing
vo-space.
To use list view: with vo on the grid, move it to the popup menu with
vo-left and vo-space.
In the popover, move vo to the left until you get to a table then interact
with it.
Move vo down the list until you
Hi, Mary:
When interacting with the table on the pop-up menu, iTunes goes busy.
I had also tried playing my TV episode with VO+space via the Grid
view, but nothing happens. I've been using a Mac for a few years now,
and have never been this frustrated with iTunes. Any further
suggestions would be
I am not getting that behavior at all.
Sounds to me like something is wrong. Have you tried running disk utility?
How old is your mac?
Also, you will occasionally want to leave your Mac on over night so that the
system can run certain maintenance scripts that are by default scheduled from 3
I'm about to be out of town for a week and need to go no-mail for a while, but
not sure how to change my status. Can someone please help with that?
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I am trying to do a Time Machine backup under Yosemite. For more than an hour
Time Machine shows preparing backup. The last backup I did was on October 21st.
I am not sure if that was before or after I installed Yosemite.
Anybody else having any problems?
Thanks for any help.
Max
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Hi,
It's likely not a problem. If your last backup was prior to Yosemite, then it
will actually take a while to prepare the backup.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 24, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to do a Time
Hi,
It only shows up when there is a message in the OutBox. So, if you sent it
already, the OutBox won't be available.
Later...
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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Hi all,
I (perhaps unwisely) use Dropbox as primary storage for my files, with the
obvious local backups just in case. However, I'd like to switch to iCloud
Drive, so that my files will be more tightly integrated with iOS, and so I can
pay for storage with my iTunes account.
Before I do, I'd
I like it on the Mac and on the PC but I still think ICloud is weird
on the phone. It's technically not as compartmentalized but it's still
hard to get to different parts of it because you can't really browse
there. I want an ICloud Drive app like the DB or One Drive apps I use
now. So for me, it
Both of these should still work. At least, I can still see downloads with
command-option-l in Safari and I can VO-space on links in mail. I am using
standard view in Mail.
Take Care
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Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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They haven't broken numbers. There seem to be some slight changes when entering
formulae, but nothing dramatic. I use Numbers a lot and can still use it the
same in Yosemite.
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I also don't bother with the accessible site. I have a Hazel rule set to import
downloaded Audible books into iTunes and then trash the original file. This is
nice and clean and avoids duplicates if, like me, you have iTunes set to copy
imported media into your iTunes library.
Cheryl, do a
I also confirm the work around has worked for me.
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I use iCloud Drive on both the Mac and PC, there is an app for iOS but
it's only to view and open files currently, it's called Cloud Drive
Explorer and is free, either way I like the service and am storing my
own documents in there, I have my Apple ID protected with two factor
Hi,
I have been waiting for several hours now and Still Time Machine is still
preparing a backup.
Surely It should have started by now.
a frustrated
Max
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It's likely not a problem. If your last backup was prior to
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