Hi folks
I'm afraid I got a bit confused with the flurry of emails on this subject.
Has anybody found a way to get rid of those buttons between the mailboxes
table and message table? I like to be able to tab from one table to the
other, and not have to hop over sort by date , hide mail
Dunno about getting rid of unwanted controls but what I do in the modern view
to hop between the mail box list and the list of messages is press VO-J; it
toggles me back and forth cleanly between these two lists. I have the preview
pane closed down completely so VO-J won't pop me in there.
On
I haven't installed ML yet, but if it still uses the tables, I use VO-command-T
to move to the message content table from the message list table.
HTh,
Teresa
I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.
On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:21 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
Dunno about getting rid of unwanted controls but what
Okay, feeling kind of stupid here. I thought I followed the directions I saw on
this list earlier, for getting rid of the preview pane in Mountain Lion mail,
but it didn't look the same on mine.
I have a list of mailboxes and for each mailbox, a bunch of messages. In Lion,
I'd just tab from
Hey all.
I've got a question about the header information given in Lion's mail app.
How do you see all of the email addresses in the header? I see a whole bunch
already but it says and I quote and 4 more. How can I see all of them? I'm
trying to grab them so I can subscribe a bunch of people to
Hello Matthew.
Did you interact with the headers? or open the desired e-mail message and
interact with the headers?
Kawal.
On 24 Apr 2012, at 03:47 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all.
I've got a question about the header information given in Lion's mail app.
How
Hi.
It still doesn't show all of the addresses though.
On 2012-04-24, at 10:50 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
Hello Matthew.
Did you interact with the headers? or open the desired e-mail message and
interact with the headers?
Kawal.
On 24 Apr 2012, at 03:47 PM, Matthew Campbell
Hi all.
Apple care helped me with a solution to the header problem.
I feel like an idiot for not trying such a simple solution lol.
I'll outline it for those who may have this issue in the future.
First, make sure that you hit the show details link in the header group. Next,
scroll down the
Hi,
In my case I turned it off to avoid messages I pass through to review with vo
in list as read. It made things convusing to keep track of what i read or what
I did not yet.
I just press enter on a conversation and it opens in new window. I am having
problems though with deleting the
What I do with threads generally is to press right arrow to expand the
current thread (need to have quick nav turned off) and then the
messages can be opened for reading, deleted or whatever on an
individual basis. Or if I wish to delete the whole thread, then I
close the thread by pressing left
Hi Esther and Buddy,
I want to thank you both for the ideas for using mail in the newer
modern view and being able to close up the message body pane. It
works great for me now and the read/unread flags don't get changed by
merely going up and down the message list anymore. I think mail on
the
I will second that. The difference is really noticeable in folders with many
messages.
Frank
On Apr 15, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I do find that moving through messages is more responsive with the preview
pane turned off. Interesting that the voiceover click mouse command doesn't
Under Lion the NumPad Commander 5 button is now perform action. That is the
same as VO Spacebar.
However on my setup at least control numpad 5 produces a mouse click. I cannot
honestly remember if I set this up or whether it comes by default.
It is easy to set up if this is not the default.David
HI all,
I had a strange behavior with Esther's procedure. I placed mouse pointer on
vertical splitter, turned mouse keys on and when pressing I key just heard a
ding. It worked when I performed the FN +i on my keyboard to get the numpad 5
but only after turning vo off. What ever works as they
Hi Ioana,
That's an Oops!. I keep forgetting that the VoiceOver Getting Started manual
used to recommend that you should not turn on Mouse Keys if you have NumPad
Commander turned on. I only remember that from the Leopard guide. You have a
Mac Mini, and are using a full-sized keyboard with
Hi all,
Thanks to your great tips I got the preview pain out of my way and don't get
messages marked as read as I pass through them. What is the best way in this
case to read messages? Pressed command+o but when I delete messages in a thread
I find they appear reappear as if they were
Pretty good explanation Esther as usually.
A few observations however.1. I have a small keyboard and activate numpad keys
with fn +letter keys but you are right that I do have numpad condor on.
2. Control numpad 5 did not work for the vertical splitter on my mac mini.
Neither did vo shift
Hi Ioana,
If you're using the IOGear Bluetooth keyboard, I'm not sure how that works on
the splitters. (The small keyboard description was the give-away -- everyone
who recommends that keyboard for touch typing adds the comment, but I have
small hands.) Yes, that keyboard has a num lock key
Hi all, I am using a Mac with the latest of Lion. Can anyone tell me how to
disable the preview pane in Mac mail. I had some old directions for, I think,
Leopard but they don't seem to work.
Thanks
Frank
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Hello Franc,
First of all, you need to be in classic view to do this. You also need to have
the Trackpad Commander turned off.
Go to the horizontal splitter above the body of the message using the VO keys,
then bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5) and double click using either the trackpad or
the
: Disabling the preview pane in Lion mail
Hello Franc,
First of all, you need to be in classic view to do this. You also need to have
the Trackpad Commander turned off.
Go to the horizontal splitter above the body of the message using the VO keys,
then bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5) and double click using
Hi Anne,
Just as an added comment, in situations like this one, where I want to make
sure that the mouse pointer doesn't move when I double click, and a physical
click with trackpad or mouse is required, I use mouse keys instead to perform
the click. After routing my mouse cursor to the
I do find that moving through messages is more responsive with the preview pane
turned off. Interesting that the voiceover click mouse command doesn't work
here, but it definitely does not.
On Apr 15, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Esther wrote:
Hi Anne,
Just as an added comment, in situations like this
Hi Mike,
Double-clicking on the horizontal splitter with VO-Shift-Space (e.g., by
holding down the Control, Option, and Shift keys while double tapping the space
bar) used to work in Leopard to hide the Preview pane. I think this ability
went away in Snow Leopard. There are definitely other
Hi,
If you're in the new mail view, and not classic, it's the vertical splitter
that hides the preview pane. And, indeed, you can double click with
VO+shift+space to move it. I just did, both to open and to close the preview
pane.
I can't say how this works with classic view though, sorry.
I just tried this and was unable to reproduce on my MacBook. Did you interact
did you simulate a single click as I implied from your message? Please provide
step by step including what your tracking settings in Voice Over settings are...
Thanks,
Jonathan
Jonathan C. Cohn
jonc...@cox.net
OK,
I have all cursors tracking. That is, keyboard focus follows Voiceover, VO
cursor follows keyboard focus, insertion point follows VO, mouse pointer
follows VO.
Oh wait. I just did something dumb. Never mind. I should maybe actually do this
with Lion. LOL
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Hi Buddy and Jon,
This was interesting. I just re-enabled and disabled the Preview pane in the
new mail view for Lion by clicking on the vertical splitter, but I did it with
mouse keys. I was using Mouse pointer ignores VoiceOver Cursor for my
navigation tracking options under VoiceOver
No signature seen here.
Iona, I also have this same problem. Having the checkbox unchecked
for threaded mail does help but you're right; it still marks them as
read when you cursor by the single messages. I have number of preview
lines set to None but still have the problem. When I asked about
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HI all,
An other mail question from a newly with lion mail layout:
IS there a way to see the status
Hello,
I have turned message preview to none in view preferences. However, wen I vo
through the list of messages if they are not part of a conversation, the
messages are marked as read. Can I avoid this? It makes sifting through mail
confusing since often I am looking for urea messages and
Hi, Ioana,
In Mail Preferences, go to the View tab and press VO-space. Navigate to the
checkbox: Mark all messages as read when opening a conversation. This is
assuming you have your messages grouped into conversations.
HTH,
Teresa
I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.
On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:19
HI Teresa,
I am afraid I don't get it. What you say would mark all messages read as I open
a conversation. This would not solve my problem rather make it worse. When I do
this every message or conversation is marked read as I vo through the list.
Maybe I was not clear in detailing my problem.
Sorry; I wasn't clear. Make sure that checkbox is unchecked.
Teresa
Slow down; you'll get there faster.
On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
HI Teresa,
I am afraid I don't get it. What you say would mark all messages read as I
open a conversation. This would not solve my
Thanks this makes more sense, but this does not solve single messages being
marked as read. As workaround I turned off completely the content column and
just open the messages I want with command o. Still should there be an other
method to do this without turning that column off completely I
Hi,
I like to use the VO J command to go from message title to message content. It
makes things a lot faster for me.
Oh, can someone tell me if my signature is going through?
Thanks.
On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
Thanks this makes more sense, but this does not solve
HI all,
An other mail question from a newly with lion mail layout:
IS there a way to see the status of reply being sent or not in this view? In
classic layout you would have a column that would say if reply was sent.
Thanks,
Ioana
Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes
and others.
Kawal.
On 29 Mar 2012, at 08:40 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
HI all,
An other mail question from a newly with lion mail layout:
IS there a way to see the status of reply being sent or not in this view? In
classic layout you would have a column that would say if reply
Hello everyone,
I am using classic view on lion mail and I am not being able to just move to
save, where I could choose save all or choose a specific file to save and the
location for it.
I can do a vo shift m and that gives me an option to safe attachments, but
still it does not let me save
:
Hello everyone,
I am using classic view on lion mail and I am not being able to just move to
save, where I could choose save all or choose a specific file to save and the
location for it.
I can do a vo shift m and that gives me an option to safe attachments, but
still it does not let me
classic view on lion mail and I am not being able to just move to
save, where I could choose save all or choose a specific file to save and
the location for it.
I can do a vo shift m and that gives me an option to safe attachments, but
still it does not let me save all when I have more than
/batworx
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On 22 Nov 2011, at 2:05 PM, Rachel Magario wrote:
Hello everyone,
I am using classic view on lion mail and I am not being able to just move
to save, where I could choose save all or choose a specific file to save
and the location for it.
I can
Hello Everyone,
As has been noted in previous messages, it is now necessary to add the
[Control] key to the [Tab] key in order to quickly jump to the Message
Content Area when Lion 7.2 Mail is set to its default 3-column view.
Let's hope that Apple addresses this so that we can, once again,
You can also use VO+J to jump to the message area.
On 22 Oct 2011, at 09:24, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello Everyone,
As has been noted in previous messages, it is now necessary to add the
[Control] key to the [Tab] key in order to quickly jump to the Message
Content Area when Lion 7.2 Mail is set
Hello everyone I have using Siri to dictate this message thank you for your
email Mark I'm sure you'll tips will be valuable to us who are using the email
in threaded view your email always makes me smile keep writing thank you:
Sent from my iPhone
On 22 Oct 2011, at 09:24 AM, M. Taylor
Wow that is a cool fix, I didn't even know that was a valid shortcut key. Wish
apple were more forthcoming with this kind of stuff.
On Oct 22, 2011, at 4:24 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello Everyone,
As has been noted in previous messages, it is now necessary to add the
[Control] key to the
I just put my thumb on the control key and my middle finger on the tab key, but
I have long fingers. :)
Teresa
Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself.--Albert Einstein
On Oct 22, 2011, at 1:24 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello Everyone,
As has been noted in previous messages, it is now
Just a note: the VO-J key combo takes you straight into a single message area,
whereas control-tab, if you're viewing conversations, takes you to the
conversation level.
Teresa
On the other hand, there are different fingers.
On Oct 22, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote:
Wow that is a
Are you using the standard Lion layout or have you gone back to the previous
version. In the newer layout I can't figure out how to go down by files. A
single field seems to include all the info, there doesn't seem to be a way to
change to table or list view to easily go down the subject
I suppose you could change the sort order in the view menu and sort according
to the field you want. Also I like to interact with the messages table and vo
right to the subject field. Then I vo down and hear just subjects messages. Not
quite what you were asking for but hope this helps.
Take
Is there any way to change the display fields order in Lion Mail? I want to
put subject first, then the from field.
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Hi all,
Thanks for your great tips in my first steps on the mac. Here I go again with
an other one:
Is there a way to quickly go to the list of mailboxes to switch between them? I
can error around with vo and find the table if the list of mailboxes is showing
and I suppose could set a hotspot
Hi Ioana.
I have lost my mailboxes more than once, and at first, got real frustrated.
Lately, I have been either going to the menu and calling up Favorite Mailboxes.
But when I finally remembered the command, I can press command-1 to go to the
Inbox. So far it looks like if I can get my inbox
Hi there,
Poking around I found that pressing command shift m shows or hides the mailbox
list.
Thought I'd share.
Ioana
On Sep 22, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
Hi Ioana.
I have lost my mailboxes more than once, and at first, got real frustrated.
Lately, I have been either
Dear listers,
In the old days, before July this year, lol, we used to see all of the incoming
message text we received. Nowadays, this is no longer true. If you hear: see
more from, and then a name, how can you unhide that part of the message text,
that Lion mail so neatly hides to unclutter
Dear listers,
In Lion mail, I would like to add a sender to my address book. I googled for
it, and I found this to be command shift y. That works. No further questions
asked. I tried adding the same contact again, but no questions asked, and no
dupe contacts created in address book. So
Hi,
why not just start typing the contacts name in the To: field? The edit field
will populate with matches as you type.
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org
On Sep 15, 2011, at 5:05 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
Dear listers,
In Lion mail, I would
as you type.
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org
On Sep 15, 2011, at 5:05 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
Dear listers,
In Lion mail, I would like to add a sender to my address book. I googled for
it, and I found this to be command shift y
Hi list,
I think I found the solution to the question how you can continue working on a
draft, after you quit it.
1. Open mail and begin a new message. Type some text.
2. Now if you want to do something else and continue working on this message
later, you press command w to close this new
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On 30. aug. 2011, at 23:29, Robert Carter wrote:
Hi All,
I was just listening to the latest Mac Power Users podcast and they were
talking about how great searching is now in Lion mail. I discovered that
command+option+f will allow one to initiate a search from
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On 30. aug. 2011, at 23:29, Robert Carter wrote:
Hi All,
I was just listening to the latest Mac Power Users podcast and they were
talking about how great searching is now in Lion mail. I discovered that
command+option+f will allow one to initiate a search from
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On 30. aug. 2011, at 23:29, Robert Carter wrote:
Hi All,
I was just listening to the latest Mac Power Users podcast and they were
talking about how great searching is now in Lion mail. I discovered that
command+option+f will allow one to initiate a search from the keyboard. I
could
Hi All,
I was just listening to the latest Mac Power Users podcast and they were
talking about how great searching is now in Lion mail. I discovered that
command+option+f will allow one to initiate a search from the keyboard. I could
not, however, figure out how to use VoiceOver to review
Dear list,
Question is: Once you go to the search field in the toolbar in Lion mail, and
type something in,
1. Do I press enter afterwards or not?
2. What exactly can I search for? Through subject lines and in the message body
seems apparent, but can you also search message headers, or find
through!
hth Colin
On 25 Aug 2011, at 18:29, Paul Erkens wrote:
Dear list,
Question is: Once you go to the search field in the toolbar in Lion mail, and
type something in,
1. Do I press enter afterwards or not?
2. What exactly can I search for? Through subject lines and in the message
in the toolbar in Lion mail, and
type something in,
1. Do I press enter afterwards or not?
2. What exactly can I search for? Through subject lines and in the message
body seems apparent, but can you also search message headers, or find
messages with an attachment? After having typed the search
;-)
Best,
Ronald
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
Op 25 aug. 2011 om 19:29 heeft Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com het
volgende geschreven:
Dear list,
Question is: Once you go to the search field in the toolbar in Lion mail,
and type something in,
1. Do I press enter afterwards or not?
2
Hi Colin,
Unfortunately, this is what I've been reading so far. But in Lion mail, well,
at least in my setup and my machine, simply typing a search in the mail
toolbar, stopping to interact and then vo arrowing around, does not take me to
any further choices you mention. Hopefully someone else
? Where would a sighted person drop it on the
screen? Can we get to an empty spot on the lion mail screen using voiceover?
Interested to know.
Paul.
On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
Hello Paul,
Whichever mailbox is reported as checked is the mailbox you will find
when
of it there. Is that true? Where would a sighted person drop it on the
screen? Can we get to an empty spot on the lion mail screen using
voiceover? Interested to know.
Paul.
On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
Hello Paul,
Whichever mailbox is reported as checked is the mailbox
one should drag the mailbox off of the favorites bar to get
rid of it there. Is that true? Where would a sighted person drop it on the
screen? Can we get to an empty spot on the lion mail screen using
voiceover? Interested to know.
Paul.
On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Bryan Jones wrote
Hi all!
Can someone please tell me what I need to do to speed up the speech rate in
mail? Using the VO hot quick keys, ctrl+opt+cmd and the arrow keys speeds up
speech for menus and ;the like, but does nothing for reading mail or typing
rates.
Thanks,
Johnny
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Hi listers,
In the favorites bar that Teresa wrote about in Lion mail, there are checkboxes
in front of the mailboxes I see there. What do these do? Also, am I correct in
assuming that the favorites bar is there, so that one can switch mailboxes,
even though the list of mailboxes is not opened
, it
also provides a nice set of shortcuts to selected mailboxes via the
Command+1,2,3,etc keystrokes. The favorites bar can be used whether the mailbox
list is opened or closed.
HTH,
Bryan
On Aug 5, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
In the favorites bar that Teresa wrote about in Lion mail
Hi list,
While attempting to work with Lion mail efficiently throughout the past week, I
still have a few questions about lion mail.
Question 1. Once you start typing a new message and then close it with command
plus w, and then telling mail to save it as a draft, the message does indeed
appear
or closed.
HTH,
Bryan
On Aug 5, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
In the favorites bar that Teresa wrote about in Lion mail, there are
checkboxes in front of the mailboxes I see there. What do these do? Also, am
I correct in assuming that the favorites bar is there, so that one can
I believe once you select the draft you wish to continue composing, hit enter
on it to edit.
Brett C.
On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
Hi list,
While attempting to work with Lion mail efficiently throughout the past week,
I still have a few questions about lion mail
either.
So, I think one should drag the mailbox off of the favorites bar to get rid
of it there. Is that true? Where would a sighted person drop it on the
screen? Can we get to an empty spot on the lion mail screen using voiceover?
Interested to know.
Paul.
On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:04 PM
view, then interact
with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the subject
view.
this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads I
was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was.
It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using
to the subject
view.
this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads
I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was.
It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with
conversations enabled, that one cannot interact
entire threads
I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was.
It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with
conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the
messages view, making this impossible to achieve.
put simply
threads that I was.
It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with
conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the
messages view, making this impossible to achieve.
put simply, I do not need to hear the info about author, from, date etc
to the messages view, then
interact with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the
subject view.
this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads
I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was.
It now seems though with Lion Mail
everyone is now using Lion Mail?
At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new
standard 3 column layout.
I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit
enter to open all of the conversations (previously known as threads) in
various
Hi all,
I am interested to know how everyone is now using Lion Mail?
At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new
standard 3 column layout.
I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit enter
to open all of the conversations (previously
is now using Lion Mail?
At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new
standard 3 column layout.
I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit
enter to open all of the conversations (previously known as threads) in
various windows
the favourites
function in lion mail to quickly jump between mail boxes and folders by
holding down the command key and a number. For more information about the
new favourites feature in mail,, then check out Ricardo Walker's excellent
podcast.
I would be interested to know how others are now
interested to know how everyone is now using Lion Mail?
At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new
standard 3 column layout.
I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit
enter to open all of the conversations (previously known
to know how everyone is now using Lion Mail?
At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new
standard 3 column layout.
I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit
enter to open all of the conversations (previously known as threads
of it's functionality under Lion
Mail, even in the classic mail layout. I like the fact that VO+J automatically
interacts with the chosen item and allows me to use either standard VO keys or
just arrow keys to navigate within the column or the message body. Also, the
fact that I'm already
Hello Chris,
You are quite correct in that using the Tab key to switch to the Message
Contents area of Lion Mail, in the non-classic view may result in the text
of the message not being automatically read.
Since recording the podcast on how I use Lion Mail, instead of using
single-key
Fantastic Mark for a great podcast.
I'll configure nine like yours when I get home from work. Thank you once agaim.
Sent from my iPhone
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. Hopefully, that will be
added back in an update.
Les
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Hello All,
In this approximately 9 minute episode of the Candle Shore Podcast, I
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