Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-21 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Aha! Thanks Jonathan, I thought that performance bug with activities was just me, but evidently not. Yes, very annoying; put a complete damper on Nuance for me, since I have Safari automatically initiate my web activity, and of course Safari is almost always open which means simply pressing

Activity bug and Nuance voices was Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-21 Thread Christina C.
How do I know if it's a Nuance voice that I am using? Are they all Nuance voices except for Alex and some of the low quality voices? I have surely noticed that when I want to change voices it is a very sluggish process. I usually just stick to Ava. I want to try activities. If I use the same

Re: Activity bug and Nuance voices was Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-21 Thread Alex Hall
Most every voice is Nuance, yes. Alex is not, and the older voices (Fred, and the other old-style synthesizers) are not, but any you have to download are. Yes, the bug is present even if the activity does not change the voice in use. No, there is no workaround I know of; keep emailing

Re: Activity bug and Nuance voices was Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I wonder if this has something to do with announcements. When using the voice Alex, if you switch in or out of the app that you have an Activity applied to, VO announces VoiceOver Settings Activity along with a view other App notes. If you use a different voice, non-Apple, then this

Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-21 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Yes please do. I wrote to them and they asked to see my VoiceOver settings etc, as if no one had told them about it before. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 21/08/2014, at 8:05 pm, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:

Re: Activity bug and Nuance voices was Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-21 Thread ronald smith
: advanced voice over? Hi, I wonder if this has something to do with announcements. When using the voice Alex, if you switch in or out of the app that you have an Activity applied to, VO announces VoiceOver Settings Activity along with a view other App notes. If you use a different voice

advanced voice over?

2014-08-20 Thread Kliphton Senior
So, now that everyone knows the basics, what are some advanced things voice over users can learn? Where would we find documentation on this? They have a lot of tutorials out there, but most of it is for the beginner, what about the advanced user? -- You received this message because you are

Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-20 Thread Alex Hall
What, specifically, are you looking to do? Beginner stuff is easy, because you can limit it to the keystrokes you need to know or how to do x y an z in VoiceOver compared to NVDA. Advanced is, well, advanced, and everyone's level of what defines advanced is different, and non-basic commands are

Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-20 Thread David Taylor
You'll learn more from the geting started guide, which you'll find in the VO help menu, which you were told how to access in the tutorial when you first started VO and would find a great help anyway. Mac isn't like Windows, just let Apple show you how to do things. Then you learn how software

Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-20 Thread Kayaker
Hi, So, you think you're ready to move up to the VO big leagues eh? I tend to go with self help. I often check out the VO-H command menus reading the command descriptions to see what I can do. I also look in the VO Utility application where you can assign actions to keys and see and control

Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-20 Thread Kliphton Senior
Thanks for the few tips. I actually hate the track pad. But will do what you suggested! Kliphton (iMessageEmail) m.kliph...@gmail.com (TwitterSkype) kliphton72 (Personal blog, read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Kayaker

Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-20 Thread Pamela Francis
Hello, This topic brings me to a question I have never had the courage to ask because I don't want to be considered stupid. What is the purpose in activities and how do you use them? I've never messed with it in the three years I've had my computer and don't understand what they're there for.

Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-20 Thread Rachel Feinberg
Hi Pam, activities are a pretty neat feature. Let's say, in Safari, if you always wanted quick nav to turn on when you went to the browser, you could set it up so it would do so when you opened Safari, as an example. It's a way of automating tasks so Voiceover can do some of the work, leaving

Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-20 Thread Matt Dierckens
I like to describe activities in VO kind of like voice profiles in JAWS. You can have different VO settings for certain applications. So for example, if when in textedit you wanted the speed to be a little slower for editing purposes but have the main speed faster, you can set an activity for

Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-20 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Yes I use an activity in Night Owl to give me a hot key to let me know how many characters I have remaining in a tweet, and to automatically speak when I change view, such as from Home to Mentions etc. I also use an activity to set verbosity to low in Mail, to get around the disclosure triangle

Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-20 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse
hi, to Pamela and others, there are not stupid questions only stupid answers. Or as we say on irc even we sometimes regret it , don't ask to ask just ask. :))) Sandi On 8/20/14, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Yes I use an activity in Night Owl to give me a hot key to let me know how

Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-20 Thread John D. Lipsey
Jonathan: This hot key to know how many characters are left in a tweet when in YoruFukurou sounds like a dead useful feature. Having never created a hot key for this, or any other purpose come to think of it, could you give me some instructions on how I might accomplish this task? Thanks in

Re: advanced voice over?

2014-08-20 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi John, the trick is to create an activity for Night Owl so you have a unique series of hotspots for that app. Then locate the area where the character count is shown and assign that area to a hotspot. If you're like me and like pneumonics, reassign the hotkey for the hotspot to something

for advanced voice over users only

2013-01-05 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi all, I m trying to figure out a setting on voice over to allow certain punctuation symbols to be announced and others not. Ok, this seems like an impossibility, but hear me out: there are many symbols which voice over does not read unless you go character by character, and those aren't

Re: for advanced voice over users only

2013-01-05 Thread erik burggraaf
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Re: for advanced voice over users only

2013-01-05 Thread Mark Baxter
I haven't tested this out, but my theory is that you might be able to add them to the VO pronunciation dictionary to be spoken differently. For example, if you know what keystroke is used to make a symbol that is ignored when VO comes to it, you could tell VO to pronounce that symbol as