iPhone honored by NFB

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Blouch
I didn't notice this mentioned on the list previously. I was one of the speakers at the NFB Web Accessibility Day in Baltimore MD on Tuesday and during the lunch Marc Maurer, President of the NFB, gave out some awards to companies they felt were leaders in the accessibility space. In particula

Re: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-09-25 Thread Justin Harford
Sweet. On Sep 25, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > I didn't notice this mentioned on the list previously. I was one of > the > speakers at the NFB Web Accessibility Day in Baltimore MD on Tuesday > and > during the lunch Marc Maurer, President of the NFB, gave out some > awards >

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2009-09-25 Thread william lomas
they can soon praise the iPhone yet slam the mac? hyppocrits --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscrib

Re: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Blouch
Some have difficulty comprehending what is new and, by definition, not well understood. So they define the new in terms of what's known from the past, but when something is a revolution rather than an evolution the comparisons fail. Some will lodge those failures as the fault of what was being

Re: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-09-25 Thread Jean-Philippe Rykiel
Sorry for a very down-to-earth question, but does the IPhone come with V O as well? JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Chris Blouch To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:48 PM Subject: Re: iPhone honored by

Re: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Blouch
pace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > > - Original Message - > *From:* Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com> > *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, September 25, 2009 10:48 PM > *Subject:* Re: iPhone

Re: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-09-25 Thread Justin Harford
ries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB > > > Some have difficulty comprehending what is new and, by definition, not > well understood. So they define the new in terms of what's known from > the past, but when som

Re: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-09-25 Thread Jean-Philippe Rykiel
, September 26, 2009 12:05 AM Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB It's called voiceover and as something that makes a device accessible via speech and controls, it is voiceover, but with a different voice (not Alex) and a phone-specific set of gestures instead of keyboard controls. That

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2009-09-25 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB Dear Chris, a friend of mine has one of these. Can you simply tell me how to turn v o on and off on his device so I can give it a try. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com>

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2009-09-25 Thread ben mustill-rose
in preferences, I think. > K. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe Rykiel > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:30 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject

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2009-09-25 Thread kaare dehard
mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe > Rykiel > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:30 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB > > Dear Chris, > a friend of mine has one of these. Can you simply tell me how to > turn v o

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2009-09-25 Thread Kevin Gibbs
groups.com Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB Sorry for a very down-to-earth question, but does the IPhone come with V O as well? JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: F

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2009-09-25 Thread Kevin Gibbs
ps.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:17 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB or you can hook it up and turn it on in itunes I believe. On 2009-09-25, at 7:27 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: You have to ask the sighted friend to turn it

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2009-09-25 Thread Kevin Gibbs
I guess I was misaken, JPR. Read this from Alex. -Original Message- From: Alex Jurgensen [mailto:asquare...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:35 PM To: Kevin Gibbs Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB Hi, Kevin: You can use any old iTunes. It won't ask you to sync,

Re: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-09-26 Thread Krister Ekstrom
25 sep 2009 kl. 22.28 skrev william lomas: > they can soon praise the iPhone yet slam the mac? > hyppocrits That's exactly my thought too. Why praise one thing and diss the other? /Krister --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribe

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2009-09-26 Thread hank smith
its about time nfb did some good for a change - Original Message - From: "Chris Blouch" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: iPhone honored by NFB > > I didn't notice this mentioned on the list previously. I was one o

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2009-09-26 Thread Buddy Brannan
uot; > To: "MacVisionaries" > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:53 AM > Subject: iPhone honored by NFB > > >> >> I didn't notice this mentioned on the list previously. I was one of >> the >> speakers at the NFB Web Accessibility Day in Balti

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2009-09-26 Thread Christina
tember 25, 2009 8:17 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB > > or you can hook it up and turn it on in itunes I believe. > On 2009-09-25, at 7:27 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > >> You have to ask the sighted friend to turn it on in preferences, I &

Re: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-09-28 Thread Chris Blouch
] *On Behalf Of >> *Jean-Philippe Rykiel >> *Sent:* Friday, September 25, 2009 5:30 PM >> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: iPhone honored by NFB >> >> Dear Chris

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2009-09-30 Thread Rich Ring
uot;ben mustill-rose" To: Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB I do find it rather funny that they slammed a program that ran on a device with a full sized qwerty keyboard yet there all over the iphone with its touch screen. O well - step in the right d

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2009-09-30 Thread Cameron
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:15 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB I believe that what you're seeing here is that they're trying to make up for the grave error they made with the M

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2009-09-30 Thread Frank Ventura
PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhone honored by NFB Hi. yes, that poorly researched and non objective so called review of voiceover should have been formally retracted, along with an apology, but, that did not, and probably will not, come to pass. Unfortunetly. Ca

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2009-09-30 Thread chris polk
sionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:19 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iPhone honored by NFB > > > Hi. yes, that poorly researched and non objective so called review of

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2009-09-30 Thread kaare dehard
> what I > firmly believe. > - Original Message - > From: "ben mustill-rose" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB > > > > I do find it rather funny that they slammed a program that ran on a > dev

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2009-09-30 Thread Maurice Mines
nal Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:19 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iPhone honored by NFB > > > Hi. yes, that poorly researched and non o

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2009-09-30 Thread chris polk
e. Now wouldn't that be poetic justice. >> Frank >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:19 PM >> To: macvisiona

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2009-10-01 Thread Rich Ring
I agree, but political entities, whether they are governments, political parties, or the NFB don't tend to admit to their mistakes. Unfortunate, but true. - Original Message - From: "kaare dehard" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: iPhone hono

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2009-10-01 Thread Chris Hofstader
ween the lines a bit, but this is > what I > firmly believe. > - Original Message - > From: "ben mustill-rose" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB > > > > I do find it rather funny that they slammed

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2009-10-01 Thread Chris Hofstader
> but, > that did not, and probably will not, come to pass. > > Unfortunately. > > Cameron. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring > Sent: Wednesday, September 30,

RE: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-10-01 Thread Cameron
meron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:06 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB I agree, but political entities, whether the

Re: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-10-02 Thread Chris Blouch
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:06 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB > > > I agree, but political entities, whether they are governments, political > parties, or the NFB don't tend to admit to their mistakes. Unfortunate, but

Re: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-10-03 Thread Chris Hofstader
this is quite unfair. >> >> Cameron. >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:06 AM >> To:

Re: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-10-03 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
d on one review. >> >> CB >> >> Cameron wrote: >>> >>> Hi. It's depressing to think about the potential number of people >>> who after >>> reading that awful so called review, will not end up giving the >>> mac platform &

Re: iPhone honored by NFB

2009-10-03 Thread Rich Ring
My local Apple store doesn't even know that Voiceover exists, well now they do, because I explained it to them. - Original Message - From: Chris Hofstader To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:46 AM Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB

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2009-10-03 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Ring wrote: > My local Apple store doesn't even know that Voiceover exists, well > now they do, because I explained it to them. > - Original Message - > From: Chris Hofstader > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:46 AM > Subje