Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-24 Thread Nicholas Parsons
For me in Yosemite, in Classic View all messages are announced as conversations, even if they are not. IN standard view, on the other hand, the read/unread status is back to the beginning of what VoiceOver announces, but for me VoiceOver announces all messages as unread, even if they are in

RE: mail in 10.10

2014-10-21 Thread M. Taylor
: mail in 10.10 I for one, applaud what you and the others are doing with respect to your work on Mail and the other parts of Yosemite.  Just one thing bothers me.  I am informed that with this version of Mail, messages are indicated to be unread even if they have in fact been read.  Is this so

RE: mail in 10.10

2014-10-21 Thread M. Taylor
- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 Hi! One thing thats strange is that it asks me to control or check my certificat

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2014-10-20 Thread M. Taylor
@googlegroups.com Subject: mail in 10.10 Is mail any more usable in 10.10? Or will I have to keep using iOS and thunderbird for that? Sent from my iPad On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I have a small lagg i think. Its a bit slow yes. Though the Yosemite

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Pamela Francis
Thank you Terry for the explicit instructions. I have never messed with classic view. I've heard it spoken about on this list, yet have not dealt with it. With the overhaul in mail and Yosemite, I may look at it. Thank you ever so much. Pam Francis On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Terje Strømberg

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2014-10-20 Thread christopher hallsworth
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: mail in 10.10 Is mail any more usable in 10.10? Or will I have to keep using iOS and thunderbird for that? Sent

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2014-10-20 Thread M. Taylor
. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 Hi guys, Through my involvement with this list, I have

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2014-10-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
, 2014 12:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 Hi guys, Through my involvement with this list, I have constantly heard people referred to classic view in mail. What is it, how do you get there? Is it different than the junk they released with this most recent OS

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2014-10-20 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: mail in 10.10 Is mail any more usable in 10.10? Or will I have to keep using iOS and thunderbird for that? Sent from my iPad On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I have

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Alex Hall
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 Hi guys, Through my involvement

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Les Kriegler
-list, should you wish. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 Hi guys, Through my

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Cheryl Homiak
] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 Hi guys, Through my involvement with this list, I have constantly heard people referred to classic view in mail. What is it, how do you get there? Is it different

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Alex Hall
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 Hi guys, Through my involvement with this list, I have constantly heard people referred to classic view in mail. What is it, how do you get there? Is it different than the junk they released

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2014-10-20 Thread Devin Prater
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 Hi guys, Through my involvement with this list, I have constantly heard people referred to classic view in mail. What is it, how do you get there? Is it different than the junk they released with this most recent OS? Pam Francis On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:27 AM

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Alex Hall
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 Hi guys

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2014-10-20 Thread Devin Prater
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 Hi guys, Through my involvement with this list, I have constantly heard people referred to classic view in mail. What is it, how do you get

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Alex Hall
Of Pamela Francis Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 Hi guys, Through my involvement with this list, I have constantly heard people referred to classic view in mail. What is it, how do you

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2014-10-20 Thread Anders Holmberg
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: mail in 10.10 Is mail any more usable in 10.10? Or will I have to keep using iOS and thunderbird for that? Sent from my iPad On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:16 PM

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2014-10-20 Thread Donna Goodin
: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: mail in 10.10 Is mail any more usable in 10.10? Or will I have to keep using iOS and thunderbird for that? Sent from my iPad On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I

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2014-10-20 Thread Kevin Cussick
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: mail in 10.10 Is mail any more usable in 10.10? Or will I have to keep using iOS and thunderbird for that? Sent from my iPad On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Anders

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2014-10-20 Thread Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: mail in 10.10 Is mail any more usable in 10.10? Or will I have to keep using iOS and thunderbird for that? Sent from my iPad On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Terje Strømberg
By mistake i said control-tab, it should be shift-tab. Take care 20. okt. 2014 kl. 06:14 skrev Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com: Thank you Terry for the explicit instructions. I have never messed with classic view. I've heard it spoken about on this list, yet have not dealt with it. With

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Mail 8.0 is working well for me, though in Classic view all messages seem to be marked as conversations whether they are or not, and in standard view they are all marked as unread whether they are or not. However, I like the fact that the unread status is back to the beginning of the info

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi guys, Through my involvement with this list, I have constantly heard people referred to classic view in mail. What is it, how do you get there? Is it different than the junk they released with this most recent OS? Pam Francis On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Nicholas Parsons

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread christopher hallsworth
Mail is very much usable under OS X Yosemite. What makes you think it isn't? Sent from my iPad On 19 Oct 2014, at 02:53, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Is mail any more usable in 10.10? Or will I have to keep using iOS and thunderbird for that? Sent from my iPad On Oct 18,

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Terje Strømberg
You find «classic view» in mail preferences under viewing. In classic view you can use vo-j to jump from table with inboxes to the left and the actual mails in the inbox. Vo-j once more and you can read the content of each mail, vo-j back to the mail, left-right or vo-command on the expanded

mail in 10.10

2014-10-18 Thread Devin Prater
Is mail any more usable in 10.10? Or will I have to keep using iOS and thunderbird for that? Sent from my iPad On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I have a small lagg i think. Its a bit slow yes. Though the Yosemite update is not as

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-18 Thread Alex Hall
It's about the same, but I find that to be plenty usable. What problems are you having? On Oct 18, 2014, at 9:53 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Is mail any more usable in 10.10? Or will I have to keep using iOS and thunderbird for that? Sent from my iPad On Oct 18, 2014, at

Re: mail in 10.10

2014-10-18 Thread Devin Prater
Mail is unreliable when incoming. Plus, mail hogs up CPU. Sent from my iPad On Oct 18, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: It's about the same, but I find that to be plenty usable. What problems are you having? On Oct 18, 2014, at 9:53 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com