Thanks for that reminder. The correct command is actually VO+F7 twice. I
totally forgot about this as I’ve been using the shell script method forever.
Hai
> On Oct 1, 2024, at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>
> Yes, Speak Battery Status is now a VoiceOver command, so you don’t need to
> use
Thanks to everybody for chiming in on this. It’s just what I was looking for. Take care.Blessings,BrianOn Oct 1, 2024, at 12:07 PM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:Thanks for that reminder. The correct command is actually VO+F7 twice. I totally forgot about this as I’ve been using the shell script method for
Yes, Speak Battery Status is now a VoiceOver command, so you don’t need to use
the shell script function.
It can be reached as already mentioned with the VO-F8 three times, or you can
assign it to any of the commanders that are available.
> On Oct 1, 2024, at 12:21 PM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:
>
Brian,You can create an Apple script using the following and bind it to a keyboard shortcut using the keyboard commander in VoiceOver utilities. I don’t remember if this list is set up to accept attachments, but I’ve included a copy of the script just in case. set cmd to "/usr/bin/pmset -g batt | g
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Subject: Checking the battery level on my new MacBook
Is there a voice-Over command key combo I can use to find out the battery
status of my MacBook? I’m running the latest Mac operating system. Thanks for
anyand all help.
Blessings,
Brian
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Hello, you can press VO F7 three times also you can press VO M twice then
Vo right or left until you hear the battery percentage.
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> Is there a voice-Over command key combo I c
Hi, the way I do it is I press the BOM key twice This gets me into the status
menu. I then use the left and right arrows to walk through the items, and one
of them is battery level. It will give you the percentage and whether it’s
charging or not. Hope this helps.
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> On Oct 1
Is there a voice-Over command key combo I can use to find out the battery
status of my MacBook? I’m running the latest Mac operating system. Thanks for
anyand all help.
Blessings,
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That’s how I just did it with my new MacBook Pro, as Brad says, just open the
lid and it will power up. Then voiceover will eventually start up on its own,
if not press the function key plus the command key plus the FN five key and it
will bring it up. Smooth sailing from there.
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When you get your new Mac unpacked, just lift the lid to turn it on. Then, let
it sit and don't touch it. Voiceover should start on its own after a short
period of time. If it doesn't, press Fn + CMD + F5, and VoiceOver will start.
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On Dec 16, 2023, at 14:19, 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVis
Hi Eleanor,
Well, there are a lot of experts on this list, who will be able to provide you
with lots of information. I will answer one question. To start voiceover when
you turn on your Mac, hold down your command, key and type F5. The command key
should be The first key to the left or right of
Hi all
Really hoping you guys can help me here with your collective
expertese/experience. I have a new 2022 Macbook Air arriving tomorrow, which
I’m very excited about, as I’ve been waiting and saving a long time for it.
However, as it’s being delivered to my home it means that I’ve got to try
Hello,
The only way I have been able to get rid of things like disk not ejecting
properly is holding down the Fn, VO, and hitting the o key. Then I get a menu
with choices, including the close button.
That generally seems to work.
Happy notice squelching,
Suzanne
> On Dec 5, 2023, at 00:20, Dave
You can go to the notification center to disable the one s you don’t want. You
can also access the center with Function N and VO Command Space to bring up the
Actions roter. You can dismiss them from there.
> On Dec 4, 2023, at 14:57, Phil Halton wrote:
>
>
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You probably only need 8 GB of RAM. If you have a lot of files I think it’s
better to go with 512 GB of space at least — I tried 256 GB once and I ran out
so quickly and kept having to delete stuff. I prefer SSD over hard drives.
Nothing else should matter all that much.
> On Aug 27, 2023, at 5
Hi all, I’m considering getting a new Mac in the back to school sale. Could you
please advise me on specs?
I am probably a light user. It is the VoiceOver not responding message that is
driving me crazy! Lol! Even simple Safari searches get the not responding. I
get it in music as well.
So, so
To get VoiceOver to read attributes, you can use the verbosity rotor with VO V,
and make your choices in there. There are a number of choices in there, but
the one you want is text attributes. Move to it with VO left and right arrows,
move to the settings there with up and down. I have never
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>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Tim, I will ask them to help. \they’re are not terribly computer
>>> savvy so it makes things hard. I think I may have to reinstall the
>>> operating system. How do I get into recovery partition and erase the driv
s.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Tim, I will ask them to help. \they’re are not terribly computer
>>> savvy so it makes things hard. I think I may have to reinstall the
>>> operating system. How do I get into recovery partition a
hey’re are not terribly computer
>> savvy so it makes things hard. I think I may have to reinstall the
>> operating system. How do I get into recovery partition and erase the drive
>> to reinstall? Can I do this without sight on new macbook air? Honestly,
>> having used a mac
k I may have to reinstall the
>> operating system. How do I get into recovery partition and erase the drive
>> to reinstall? Can I do this without sight on new macbook air? Honestly,
>> having used a mac computer for 15 years, all I could do now is cry. I’m so
>> angr
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>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Tim, I will ask them to help. \they’re are not terribly computer
>> savvy so it makes things hard. I think I may have to reinstall the
>>
t;>> wrote:
>>>>
>>> Thanks, Tim, I will ask them to help. \they’re are not terribly computer
>>> savvy so it makes things hard. I think I may have to reinstall the
>>> operating system. How do I get into recovery partition and erase the drive
&g
. I think I may have to reinstall the
>> operating system. How do I get into recovery partition and erase the drive
>> to reinstall? Can I do this without sight on new macbook air? Honestly,
>> having used a mac computer for 15 years, all I could do now is cry. I’m so
>
r
> savvy so it makes things hard. I think I may have to reinstall the operating
> system. How do I get into recovery partition and erase the drive to
> reinstall? Can I do this without sight on new macbook air? Honestly, having
> used a mac computer for 15 years, all I
acVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Tim, I will ask them to help. \they’re are not terribly computer
> savvy so it makes things hard. I think I may have to reinstall the operating
> system. How do I get into recovery partition and erase the drive to
> reinstall? Can I do this w
k I may have to reinstall the operating
> system. How do I get into recovery partition and erase the drive to
> reinstall? Can I do this without sight on new macbook air? Honestly, having
> used a mac computer for 15 years, all I could do now is cry. I’m so angry.
>
> Thanks for
Thanks, Tim, I will ask them to help. \they’re are not terribly computer savvy
so it makes things hard. I think I may have to reinstall the operating system.
How do I get into recovery partition and erase the drive to reinstall? Can I
do this without sight on new macbook air? Honestly
Hi,
It is the same command. You can use either cmd-f5, or hold down the cmd key
and triple press the power button/fingerprint sensor.
If you have a sighted person around, have them check if audio is muted in the
VoiceOver Utility under the Sound category. Do you hear any noise at all when
y
Hi,
Just set up my new silicon macbook air. Everything went well, I managed to
migrate my info from old macbook air and when the restart happened I can’t hear
voiceover at all. It’s not muted, it is ticked as the sighted person trying to
help me says but I can’t hear speech. I’m just desperat
one
>
>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 6:22 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I may be getting a new macbook air with m1 chip. I wanted to ask what
>> differences there may be in voiceover or shortcut keys that
.
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> On Jun 7, 2021, at 6:22 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I may be getting a new macbook air with m1 chip. I wanted to ask what
> differences there may be in voiceover or shortcut keys that I should be aware
>
Hi,
I may be getting a new macbook air with m1 chip. I wanted to ask what
differences there may be in voiceover or shortcut keys that I should be aware
of. Also, is it possible to run Windows 10 in Bootcamp on these new machines?
Many thanks
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Yes, if you restore from the Time Machine it certainly should do that.
It could of course fail but I can’t see that anything could fail if you have
all backed up.
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> 7 dec. 2020 kl. 13:23 skrev Ian Harrison :
>
> Hi all,
> I’m lucky enough to be getting this for Christmas. It will arrive
Hi all,
I’m lucky enough to be getting this for Christmas. It will arrive with Big Sur
installed and my old system was backed up to time machine with High Sierra. I
have some questions please:
•If I set up my new machine from a time machine backup can I just transfer all
my personal data and no
one drive cloud storage
environment
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On
Behalf Of maurice mines
Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: A very interesting problem with my new MacBook Pro's drive access when
I'm
Hello everyone, the story goes somewhat like this, I moved my old system to the
new system. On the old system I was able to read my OS X drive without a
problem. When using paragons a PFS or Windows. After I moved that entire Time
Machine backup to the new computer I simply cannot access the dri
Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2020 11:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New MacBook Air advice?
Hmmm, how about the I5? Is the I5 and 16 gb a good match? I guess I'm unclear
on what is more important. Processor power or processor memory.
Thanks for the responses.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On
Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2020 8:44 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: New MacBook Air advice?
Hi all, I was doing a little research on the new 13.3 MacBook Air. I may be
upgrading from the Mid 2
the i5 should be fine unless you plan to do a lot of video editing or other
processor intensive stuff. Of course, you could just get the i7 and be ready
for whatever you may choose to do in the future.
- Brad -
On Apr 14, 2020, at 18:09, Traci Duncan wrote:
Hmmm, how about the I5? Is the
Hmmm, how about the I5? Is the I5 and 16 gb a good match? I guess I'm unclear
on what is more important. Processor power or processor memory.
Thanks for the responses.
Traci
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 14, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>
> I think the 8 GB is adequate, but going w
I think the 8 GB is adequate, but going with 16 GB will future-proof your new
MacAir.
I would also suggest going with the 512 SSD storage for the same reason.
- Brad -
On Apr 14, 2020, at 15:49, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
Well if it was me and the upgrade was affordable I’d go to the 16GB. But
Well if it was me and the upgrade was affordable I’d go to the 16GB. But that
is my personal opinion.
> On 15/04/2020, at 08:44, Traci Duncan wrote:
>
> Hi all, I was doing a little research on the new 13.3 MacBook Air. I may be
> upgrading from the Mid 2011 model. Would you agree with the fol
Hi all, I was doing a little research on the new 13.3 MacBook Air. I may be
upgrading from the Mid 2011 model. Would you agree with the following?
Opting for the core i5 and 8 gb memory is a good mix of power and value? One
article suggested upgrading to the 16 gb is unnecessary and bumping into
er then look at the mac book pro without touch bar.
> Hope that is somewhat helpful and welcome to the list.-Original
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> Behalf Of B G
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subje
tly on me please. *smile*
> I was wondering if the list had any tips on buying a new MacBook. I'm
> thinking of finally taking the plunge into the world of iOS and indeed
> Mac OS software development. So far the MacBook Air (2018) with 16GB
> ram and 128SSD seems the most attra
ewhat helpful and welcome to the list.-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On
Behalf Of B G
Sent: Monday, 6 May 2019 3:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: New List member, buying a new Macbook
Hi there,
Ben here, just joined the list, so go gently on me p
he list had any tips on buying a new MacBook. I'm
> thinking of finally taking the plunge into the world of iOS and indeed
> Mac OS software development. So far the MacBook Air (2018) with 16GB
> ram and 128SSD seems the most attractive choice. I have however been
> informed that 128gb
Hi there,
Ben here, just joined the list, so go gently on me please. *smile*
I was wondering if the list had any tips on buying a new MacBook. I'm
thinking of finally taking the plunge into the world of iOS and indeed
Mac OS software development. So far the MacBook Air (2018) with 16GB
ra
aly wrote:
>
> Great! Thanks John! I appreciate that!
> the command key is the first on the left of the space bar? is that right?
> shirley
> - Original Message - From: "John Panarese"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 1:43 AM
> Subject: Re: sett
Great! Thanks John! I appreciate that!
the command key is the first on the left of the space bar? is that right?
shirley
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To:
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: setting up a new macbook pro
You should b
You should be verbally prompted to start VoiceOver with command-F5. At
least, this is what normally happens. If you don’t get prompted, just press
command-F5 after about fifteen or twenty seconds of turning on the machine.
From there, you will have speech and you can follow the on screen prom
so can anyone tell me when I turn on my new mac, what happens? how do I set it
up? I am a totally new mac user. I dont know anything about the mac at all. I
need to be able to turn on vo. can I do that before setting the mac up? or do I
need sighted assistance to set it up?
what do I need to kno
being on its way out.
On Oct 12, 2018, at 3:29 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I spent most of last night setting up my new Macbook Air, will
hopefully finish that tonight. I love it. It boots up so fast since it
has an SSD drive and the battery life is definitely better than my
previous laptop, I turn
Which model did you get? I’m in the market for a new one, sense my Macbook Pro
may be close to being on its way out.
> On Oct 12, 2018, at 3:29 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>
> I spent most of last night setting up my new Macbook Air, will hopefully
> finish that tonight. I love it. It
I spent most of last night setting up my new Macbook Air, will
hopefully finish that tonight. I love it. It boots up so fast since it
has an SSD drive and the battery life is definitely better than my
previous laptop, I turn the keyboard and display lights all the way
down since I can'
tc do carry
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Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2018 8:44 PM
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Subject: Re: Bait and fix: Apple is basically forcing you to get AppleCare for
your new MacBook Pro
Actually, Simo
f dan d.
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> your new MacBook Pro
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>
>
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new MacBook Pro
Re
Reports they are bricked if not repaired by apple.
https://www.macworld.com/article/3311736/macs/macbook-pro-repair-software-lock.html
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You are not the first person from whom I have heard about this problem.
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a bad Apple-provided driver. However, if you connect a USB audio
interface to the Mac via a Thunderbolt-to-USB adapter cable, that device
works and so
Hi Cameron!
I have a friend who has windows 10 and a focusright sound card.
He has other problems for example he has to unplug and replug the soundcard
evry now and then.
SO i guess its something with the card drivers.
Just a thought from my perspective.
Not sure why it wont let you install gener
Hi everyone.
I have been doing forum searches and reading articles etc and can't
figure out what's going on here. If anybody has any tips, please let
me know! Thanks.
I recently sold my two older macs and bought a new 2018 MacBook pro
with ssd, six core processor, and 16 gigs of ram.
I do some t
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my way home with my new MacBook Pro!!!
Hi all,
Sorry for that last blank message.
Well, I'm on my way home with my new MacBook Pro! A question has occurred to
me, and I thought I put it out to the list. I haven't opened the box yet, so
sorry in advance if this is a dumb question. I
Jus turn it on, wait a minute and start vo with a. Command triple press of the
fingerprint / power button. YOu’ll be in the initial setup screens.
> On Aug 27, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for that last blank message.
>
> Well, I'm
home with my new MacBook Pro!!!
I got the 13 inch with the Touch Bar. And I should have figured that Apple
would be at least one step ahead of me. :-) The minute I opened up the lid,
VoiceOver came on, and I was prompted as to whether I want to use voiceover.
The set up was quite painless
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> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 7:23 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: On my way home with my new MacBook Pro!!!
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for that last bl
com
Subject: On my way home with my new MacBook Pro!!!
Hi all,
Sorry for that last blank message.
Well, I'm on my way home with my new MacBook Pro! A question has occurred to
me, and I thought I put it out to the list. I haven't opened the box yet, so
sorry in advance if this is a dumb
Hi all,
Sorry for that last blank message.
Well, I'm on my way home with my new MacBook Pro! A question has occurred to
me, and I thought I put it out to the list. I haven't opened the box yet, so
sorry in advance if this is a dumb question. If you turn on the MacBook Pro via
the to
>>>> On 2/23/2017 8:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t know if anyone else is having problems with this, and perhaps I
>>>>> should be asking on a Dropbox forum as well, but here’s the problem I am
>&
2/23/2017 8:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I don’t know if anyone else is having problems with this, and perhaps I
>>> should be asking on a Dropbox forum as well, but here’s the problem I am
>>> having:
>>>
>>> While using
a Dropbox forum as well, but here’s the problem I am having:
While using my 2009 MacBook, I manually created folders in Dropbox and manually
copied individual files and folders from the MacBook to Dropbox, where I have
1TB of space. When I installed Dropbox on my new MacBook Pro, I found that
>> While using my 2009 MacBook, I manually created folders in Dropbox and
>> manually copied individual files and folders from the MacBook to Dropbox,
>> where I have 1TB of space. When I installed Dropbox on my new MacBook Pro,
>> I found that I could log ont
gt;> should be asking on a Dropbox forum as well, but here’s the problem I am
>>>> having:
>>>>
>>>> While using my 2009 MacBook, I manually created folders in Dropbox and
>>>> manually copied individual files and folders from the MacBook
y
copied individual files and folders from the MacBook to Dropbox, where I have
1TB of space. When I installed Dropbox on my new MacBook Pro, I found that I
could log onto Dropbox and that there were several individual files in my root
folder. However, none of the folders and subfolders were v
manually created folders in Dropbox and
>> manually copied individual files and folders from the MacBook to Dropbox,
>> where I have 1TB of space. When I installed Dropbox on my new MacBook Pro,
>> I found that I could log onto Dropbox and that there were several individual
&
ox and manually
copied individual files and folders from the MacBook to Dropbox, where I have
1TB of space. When I installed Dropbox on my new MacBook Pro, I found that I
could log onto Dropbox and that there were several individual files in my root
folder. However, none of the folders and
Dropbox, where I have
1TB of space. When I installed Dropbox on my new MacBook Pro, I found that I
could log onto Dropbox and that there were several individual files in my root
folder. However, none of the folders and subfolders were visible on the new
machine. I know that the folders are
my 2009 MacBook. I have now been using the
>>> latest 13 inch MacBook for three days.
>>>
>>> Here’s my problem:
>>>
>>> My system is configured to use the US language operating system, but I live
>>> in Austria, so much of my work is done in Ge
>> up properly.
>>
>> It became necessary to retire my 2009 MacBook. I have now been using the
>> latest 13 inch MacBook for three days.
>>
>> Here’s my problem:
>>
>> My system is configured to use the US language operating system, but I liv
problem:
>>
>> My system is configured to use the US language operating system, but I live
>> in Austria, so much of my work is done in German. Consequently, I need to
>> regularly switch between German and English. My new MacBook is speaking
>> English without any
but I live
> in Austria, so much of my work is done in German. Consequently, I need to
> regularly switch between German and English. My new MacBook is speaking
> English without any problems. However, I am unable to figure out how to add
> German without making it my default langua
new MacBook is speaking
English without any problems. However, I am unable to figure out how to add
German without making it my default language. If I go into the VoiceOver
utility menu by pressing VO-F8, I can’t find any option to let me download
additional languages. Besides not being able
ote:
>>
>>> So, we'll have to wait ~2 years for >= 32GB RAM. Thanks Intel!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:20 AM Mary Otten wrote:
>>> In light of some discussion about the new MacBook Pro and the ram a
>>> limitation, I thought people m
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind
> Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro
>
> I could use 32 GB today to run more virtual machines at the same time. I’d
> like to be able to
in Chao wrote:
>
>> So, we'll have to wait ~2 years for >= 32GB RAM. Thanks Intel!
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:20 AM Mary Otten wrote:
>> In light of some discussion about the new MacBook Pro and the ram a
>> limitation, I thought people might find
ubject: Re: Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind
Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro
I could use 32 GB today to run more virtual machines at the same time. I’d
like to be able to run 20 at a time or more.
I would think a lot of film editor
;s choices, reason behind
Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook Pro
Well, according to what I was reading today, next year. Better chip, cheaper
prices. And frankly, what does the average person do that needs more than 16 GB
of RAM? You say we will have to wait, as though you are going t
20 AM Mary Otten > <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> In light of some discussion about the new MacBook Pro and the ram a
>> limitation, I thought people might find this article interesting. It looks
>> like Intel, not Apple, is to blame, if you want to call it t
?
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 1, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>
> So, we'll have to wait ~2 years for >= 32GB RAM. Thanks Intel!
>
>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:20 AM Mary Otten wrote:
>> In light of some discussion about the new MacBook Pro and the
So, we'll have to wait ~2 years for >= 32GB RAM. Thanks Intel!
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:20 AM Mary Otten wrote:
> In light of some discussion about the new MacBook Pro and the ram a
> limitation, I thought people might find this article interesting. It looks
> like Intel,
In light of some discussion about the new MacBook Pro and the ram a limitation,
I thought people might find this article interesting. It looks like Intel, not
Apple, is to blame, if you want to call it that, for some of the limitations.
Mary
Intel's chip design, not Apple's choic
ll VM will be a different
>>>>> situation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Simon f
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionari
t;>> situation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Simon f
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 3:02 AM
>>>> To:
t; From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Brandt Steenkamp
>>> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016 4:02 AM
>>> To: macvisio
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Subject: Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over
and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126
Trying to use a surface book the way a laptop should be used, on your lap,
instead of on a desk, is impossible. I have actually seen one fall and break
the surface book?
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>> I like that a hell of a lot more than the surface pro.
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>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Brandt Steenkamp
>> Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2016
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