Re: mac OS big sur: web navigation using arrow keys only

2020-11-15 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I haven't ben on a lot of sites since seeing this message, but I don't believe this is the case. Some sites do put in keyboard handlers that forget to allow default actions for keys they don't use perhaps you are running into that? There is an option in the web area of VoiceOver utility to have

mac OS big sur: web navigation using arrow keys only

2020-11-15 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi All, Another issue I found now is that I can't navigate web pages by simple arrow up or down keys. This used to be an extremely useful way of moving around pages, especially when it comes to tutorials, scientific articles or others. is there some setting in the VO preferences which allow me

Re: web navigation?

2012-05-05 Thread Dawn Johnson
the first level. Any ideas?   Thank you, Dawn From: Anne Robertson To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 5:46 PM Subject: Re: web navigation? Hello Steve, Safari Reader is a normal part of Safari. You press Cmd-Shift-r, wait a second

Re: web navigation?

2012-05-02 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Steve, Safari Reader is a normal part of Safari. You press Cmd-Shift-r, wait a second or two, and VoiceOver starts reading the article. The beauty of it is that it brings together all the pages without you having to click on "Next page". Cheers, Anne -- You received this message becaus

Re: web navigation?

2012-05-02 Thread Steve Holmes
On 5/2/12, Anne Robertson wrote: > > I also use the Safari Reader for reading articles. What is Safari Reader? is that just part of the normal web browser or is that something else. Sorry for silly question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisi

Re: web navigation?

2012-05-02 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Steve, On 2 May 2012, at 18:45, Steve Holmes wrote: > I thought I had read that > the modes (DOM or Groups) could be selected for each site you go to Maybe if you create an ativity it could be done. I've never bothered because I have a keyboard commander shortcut and a Quick Nav shortcut t

Re: web navigation?

2012-05-02 Thread Steve Holmes
I have another question for this subject; I thought I had read that the modes (DOM or Groups) could be selected for each site you go to and VO would remember that preference when you go back to a given site. Did I read this wrong? I do not observe that aspect to be working on my setup. The differ

Re: web navigation?

2012-05-01 Thread Alex Hall
I've tried both, but I have no idea which is better, or even what the difference really is. I have read the help for it, and I am very familiar with what a DOM is, but i can't see a difference between the functionality of both modes when I'm using either one. Yes, I have the arrow keys down well en

Re: web navigation?

2012-05-01 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Up / down arrows will move the web rotar selection and left right will move by chunks. Do you use Group or Dom navigation? Best wishes, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > I have quick nav on. However, the left/right arrows don't seem to

Re: web navigation?

2012-04-30 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Alex, All the VO commands are shown in the commands menus which you get to by pressing VO-h-h. When in a text area, you need to interact for VO commands to work. However, usually, you can navigate using just the arrow keys. As for editing text, the insertion point is always between two c

Re: web navigation?

2012-04-30 Thread Alex Hall
How, on both counts? arrowing, even in text areas, never has seemed very consistent; I find myself guessing until I find what I want. Maybe quick nav complicates things, I don't know. I didn't know you could lock the vo keys, that sounds useful. I think I need to find a complete keyboard reference

Re: web navigation?

2012-04-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Alex, Even with Quick Nav on, you can still use the normal VO commands to navigate by character, word, line, sentence, etc. You can also lock the VO keys to minimise the number of keys to be pressed. Cheers, Anne On 30 Apr 2012, at 03:15, Alex Hall wrote: > I have quick nav on. However

Re: web navigation?

2012-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
Perhaps, but, if it was there, I couldn't figure out how to use it (the tutorial) and couldn't remember everything it threw at me. I know I managed ot pull up a help file once, but am not sure where that was. I eventually gave up on it as it was so confusing and didn't work any better. However, I n

Re: web navigation?

2012-04-29 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
It has its own tutorial builtin right now. Was that the case when you tried it? Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > I've heard of Chromevox and I even tried it a while back, but I found it > confusing and difficult to work with. Still, i

Re: web navigation?

2012-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
I have quick nav on. However, the left/right arrows don't seem to navigate reliably (I ended up at the bottom of a page, and you can't read by smaller chunks inside, say, a paragraph of text). Say you're reading an article and aren't sure how an oddly spoken phrase is spelled. On Windows, or in an

Re: web navigation?

2012-04-29 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I haven't had much luck with chrome vox. All it does is crash chrome on my machine. If you want to just navigate with arrows, you should just turn on quick nav by pressing the left and right arrow keys at the same time. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2theco

Re: web navigation?

2012-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
I've heard of Chromevox and I even tried it a while back, but I found it confusing and difficult to work with. Still, if I can arrow around, it might be worth looking into again. Are there any podcasts on it? On 29 Apr 2012, at 20:49, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > You might want to try using chrome

Re: web navigation?

2012-04-29 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
You might want to try using chrome vox. If you hit the command key twice while in chromevox then all the shortcuts are able to be done without holding down command-control. Chrome Vox does do things a bit different for arrows. Up/Down is your primary navigator and left / right navigates at a s

web navigation?

2012-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all, I am using Chrome for a web browser, and I have a few questions about reading and navigating web pages. 1. In the vo utility, you can choose either DOM order or grouping. Which is better? 2. Is there a way to disable the web rotor, so the arrows will act like they do in text reading or

Re: web navigation?

2011-08-13 Thread Scott Howell
That used to be the case, but there was some change. Of course depending upon how you set the rotor, you would go up/down. In other words, if you have selected links with the web rotor, you use up/down to navigate through the available links. Lots of options for what is included in the rotor can

Re: web navigation?

2011-08-13 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I just don't see why it would matter. generally speaking, on the web, pressing VO right aero or VO down arrow will land you in the exact same place. The same for VO up arrow and VO left arrow. left and up moves you backwards and right and down moves forwards. The only time this really m

Re: Web Navigation Commands in VoiceOver [was Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage]

2009-08-28 Thread Mark Baxter
Thanks so much! There's a lot of useful stuff here that I didn't know; and I thought I was handy with web navigation. :) Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurni

Web Navigation Commands in VoiceOver [was Re: anyone got experience with searching for tet within a webpage]

2009-08-28 Thread Esther
ith VO-Space. Then Option-Tab will only navigate to the next text box or button (and skip all links), while tab takes you to the next element. This is especially useful for Tiger users who don't have access to the added web navigation features of Leopard and is easy to overlook