RE: [maemo-developers] Re: must have section: user/FOO to be considercompatible???

2006-11-03 Thread Jakub.Pavelek
Hi, Yes, there is "Restore original settings". Go to Control Panel, then from menu Tools->Restore original settings. That thing removes user-modified settings and restores the ones that shipped with the device/OS version (in theory). I do not understand the problem you are describing here, perhap

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-11-03 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Daniel Stone wrote: you can't do the bootloader, kernel, and initfs from userspace. Well, you can, but it really isn't a good idea. It has no chance to be completely safe, something may go wrong pretty easily (like random device reboot). There is no safe order in which you can make the upgr

Re: [maemo-developers] Playing with osso-application-installer

2006-11-03 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Jose Dapena Paz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After googling a bit, it seems it's the Internet Connection Daemon, > used for knowing/managing the internet connection status. But in the > scratchbox it's not available. I unfortunately don't know whether this daemon can be used in a Scr

Re: [maemo-developers] kernel source for 2.2006.39-14?

2006-11-03 Thread Tran Van Hoang
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 22:18 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Hello, > > since the 2.6.16.27-omap1 kernel in 2.2006.39-14 is significantly > different from the previous one => old modules are incompatible with > newer kernel, older kernel causes reboot loop when flashed (newer wlan > module i

Re: [maemo-developers] must have section: user/FOO to be consider compatible???

2006-11-03 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Nathan Fain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > so installing the applications manually also doesnt work. I try to > install media streamer, the required clinkc gives this error in the > install log: > must have section: user/FOO to be consider compatible??? > > ideas? It's a 'feature'. We don'

Re: [maemo-developers] Playing with osso-application-installer

2006-11-03 Thread Marius Vollmer
Marius Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is documented in the maemo Wiki somewhere, but the Wiki is too > slow right now. I will provide the link once I find it. It's here http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationManagerRedPillMode. ___ maemo-dev

[maemo-developers] location of the source packages

2006-11-03 Thread Rafael Espíndola
Why does sardine source packages are located at http://repository.maemo.org/pool/sardine/main/source instead of using the more usual layout of having the source in the same directory as the binaries? This is causing some problems. For example, "apt-get source busybox" fails with Err http://rep

[maemo-developers] where is the busybox source?

2006-11-03 Thread Rafael Espíndola
After sending the previous email, I realised that the busybox source is missing :-( Where is it? I tried to download the 1.01 release from the busybox site, but this is not the version that the dsc expects: dpkg-source: warning: extracting unsigned source package (./busybox_1.01-4.osso10.dsc) dpk

Re: [maemo-developers] Playing with osso-application-installer

2006-11-03 Thread Jose Dapena Paz
El vie, 03-11-2006 a las 12:45 +0200, Marius Vollmer escribió: > Marius Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This is documented in the maemo Wiki somewhere, but the Wiki is too > > slow right now. I will provide the link once I find it. > > It's here http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationMa

Re: [maemo-developers] kernel source for 2.2006.39-14?

2006-11-03 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Tran Van Hoang wrote: Hi, It will be available when next maemo sdk release is coming out...soon Yes that was my point. This is IMHO too late :-) I understand it may be hard to make everything ready at once but still I don't like it and think you should make the sources available at the same

Re: [maemo-developers] Playing with osso-application-installer

2006-11-03 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Jose Dapena Paz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But the Red Pill mode exactly offers this option. Mmmm maybe > adding a HACKING document to osso-application-manager source tree > with hints like this one would be very intuitive. Yeah, luckily, I had a suitable text laying around already

[maemo-developers] flasher does not detect device anymore

2006-11-03 Thread Detlef Schmicker
Hi, while trying to upgrade to new OS2006 version my nokia is not detected anymore. usb is working fine when device is running and I mount the device. but using the flasher procedure I do not get the device recognized: I followed the instructions from howto 770: Unplug charger and switch off th

Re: [maemo-developers] flasher does not detect device anymore

2006-11-03 Thread Chris Lord
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 13:45 +0100, Detlef Schmicker wrote: > Hi, > > while trying to upgrade to new OS2006 version my nokia is not detected > anymore. Are you using Ubuntu edgy? I had to add this line (courtesy of Ross Burton) to my /etc/fstab to get flasher to work: none /proc/bus/usb usbf

Re: [maemo-developers] flasher does not detect device anymore

2006-11-03 Thread Niels Breet
On Fri, November 3, 2006 13:45, Detlef Schmicker wrote: [snip] > 770: Unplug charger and switch off the Nokia 770. Connect it to your > computer via USB [snip] > and nothing happens. The display shows the usb logo up right for a while, > than battery charging. ^^^ Did you unplug

Re: [maemo-developers] flasher does not detect device anymore

2006-11-03 Thread Mike Frantzen
> while trying to upgrade to new OS2006 version my nokia is not detected > anymore. > usb is working fine when device is running and I mount the device. Make sure you have the N770 plugged directly into the PC's USB controller and not through a USB hub. .mike

[maemo-developers] Bluetooth pairing with Motorola V3i

2006-11-03 Thread Chris Lord
Since bugzilla is down, I thought I'd just throw a quick question out there to see if anyone has any advice. Ever since the 2006 edition of the 770 image, bluetooth pairing has stopped working with my Motorola V3i. My phone gets as far as verifying the key, then it pops up the saving and confirmin

[maemo-developers] please package gnu find a grep

2006-11-03 Thread Rafael Espíndola
I have been able to create a chroot with sardine packages. Now I am trying to build some packages in it. One problem is that the utilities provided in busybox are not powerful enough. Compiling gnu grep and findutils I was able to replace busybox with the gnu packages and now I can build some pa

Re: [maemo-developers] kernel source for 2.2006.39-14?

2006-11-03 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 12:58 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: ... > I understand it may be hard to make everything ready at once but still I > don't like it and think you should make the sources available at the > same time as binaries. After all this firmware is 5 weeks old, there > should be p

Re: [maemo-developers] Bluetooth pairing with Motorola V3i

2006-11-03 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 14:01 +, ext Chris Lord wrote: ... > As far as my phone is concerned, it seems to be paired, but no pair is > stored on the 770. This used to work perfectly on the 2005 edition and > pairing still works perfectly with my friend's Motorola V3 (just not my > V3i..) ... Did

Re: [maemo-developers] Bluetooth pairing with Motorola V3i

2006-11-03 Thread Chris Lord
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 16:31 +0200, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 14:01 +, ext Chris Lord wrote: > ... > > As far as my phone is concerned, it seems to be paired, but no pair is > > stored on the 770. This used to work perfectly on the 2005 edition and > > pairing still works p

[maemo-developers] maemo wiki will have a maintenance break today

2006-11-03 Thread Ferenc Szekely
Hello, As you know maemo's wiki got some serious performance problems recently. Therefore we would like to have a maintenance break today at 4:30PM (UTC/GMT +2 hours). During this time the administrators will integrate moinmoin with fastcgi, and we hope it will improve the situation. The bre

Re: [maemo-developers] Bluetooth pairing with Motorola V3i

2006-11-03 Thread Johan Hedberg
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006, Chris Lord wrote: > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 16:31 +0200, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 14:01 +, ext Chris Lord wrote: > > ... > > > As far as my phone is concerned, it seems to be paired, but no pair is > > > stored on the 770. This used to work perfectl

[maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-11-03 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 15:05 +0200, Ferenc Szekely wrote: > Connectivity > > o Improved quality of Bluetooth connections Well that's an understatement :). The connection with my bluetooth GPS (Globalsat BT359) was slow to establish (10 seconds) and unreliable (max 30 minutes, typical

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-11-03 Thread Michael Wiktowy
On 11/3/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Daniel Stone wrote: > > you can't do the > bootloader, kernel, and initfs from userspace. > Well, you can, but it really isn't a good idea. It has no chance to be completely safe, something may go wrong pretty easily (like random device rebo

[maemo-developers] X.Org security advisory: Buffer overflow in the Xrender extension

2006-11-03 Thread Antonio Orlando
Is the 770 affected by the X security issue [1]? If yes, does the new firmware update fix it? If not, will it be fixed? If not, can it be a real problem for 770 users? [1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-May/015136.html -- Antonio ___

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-11-03 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 11:09 -0500, ext Michael Wiktowy wrote: > On 11/3/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Daniel Stone wrote: > > > > > > you can't do the > > > bootloader, kernel, and initfs from userspace. > > > > > > > Well, you can, but it really isn't a good idea. It has no ch

[maemo-developers] please use #!/usr/bin/perl instead of #!/scratchbox/tools/bin/perl

2006-11-03 Thread Rafael Espíndola
The autotool packages in sardine use /scratchbox/tools/bin/perl as the interpreter. Because of this, it is not possible to use them outside scratchbox. Changing the interpreter to /usr/bin/perl should fix this. The package would continue to work on scratchbox and would also work in an ordinary c

Re: [maemo-developers] X.Org security advisory: Buffer overflow in the Xrender extension

2006-11-03 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 05:23:56PM +0100, ext Antonio Orlando wrote: > Is the 770 affected by the X security issue [1]? Yes. > If yes, does the new firmware update fix it? No. > If not, will it be fixed? No plans at present, but it may (I hadn't thought about this, to be honest). > If not, ca

[maemo-developers] using a chroot instead of scratchbox

2006-11-03 Thread Rafael Espíndola
I had so many problems with scratchbox that I decided to try to use a simple chroot instead. With the changes I have send in the previous emails ,I am now able to run debootstrap and use the resulting chroot to build gtk! Next step: build an ARM chroot :-) Rafael ___

Re: [maemo-developers] location of the source packages

2006-11-03 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 08:07:25AM -0300, Rafael Esp??ndola wrote: > Why does sardine source packages are located at > > http://repository.maemo.org/pool/sardine/main/source > > instead of using the more usual layout of having the source in the > same directory as the binaries? > > This is causi

Re: [maemo-developers] please use #!/usr/bin/perl instead of #!/scratchbox/tools/bin/perl

2006-11-03 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 01:43:15PM -0300, Rafael Esp??ndola wrote: > The autotool packages in sardine use /scratchbox/tools/bin/perl as the > interpreter. Because of this, it is not possible to use them outside > scratchbox. > > Changing the interpreter to /usr/bin/perl should fix this. The packa

Re: [maemo-developers] using a chroot instead of scratchbox

2006-11-03 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:54:31PM -0300, Rafael Esp??ndola wrote: > I had so many problems with scratchbox that I decided to try to use a > simple chroot instead. > > With the changes I have send in the previous emails ,I am now able to > run debootstrap and use the resulting chroot to build gtk!

Re: [maemo-developers] please use #!/usr/bin/perl instead of #!/scratchbox/tools/bin/perl

2006-11-03 Thread Rafael Espíndola
I believe this suggestion was already given to you, so I wonder if you have any particular reason to not follow it. bugzilla was (is?) down, -- Misha Rafael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/list

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-11-03 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 08:09:47PM +0100, Antonio Orlando wrote: > Reflashing the device is a fine thing, but it's rather annoying to > reinstall all the stuff back, so before doing anything I prefer to ask > here: > provided I have everything installed the "normal" way (on the internal > mem

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-11-03 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 11:27:16PM -0500, Michel Salim wrote: > Speaking of the image, where is it? Both nokia.com and maemo.org still > lists the original IT2006 release from May. http://maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770 The new OS2006 image is SU-18_2006SE_2.2006.39-14_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin The old OS2

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: must have section: user/FOO to be considercompatible???

2006-11-03 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 10:05:40AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yes, there is "Restore original settings". Go to Control Panel, then > from menu Tools->Restore original settings. That thing removes > user-modified settings and restores the ones that shipped with the > device/OS version (in the

Re: [maemo-developers] please use #!/usr/bin/perl instead of #!/scratchbox/tools/bin/perl

2006-11-03 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 03:34:08PM -0300, Rafael Esp??ndola wrote: > >I believe this suggestion was already given to you, so I wonder if you > >have any particular reason to not follow it. > > bugzilla was (is?) down, It does not seem to be down: I just checked the bugs and filed a new one. :) Ar

Re: [maemo-developers] please use #!/usr/bin/perl instead of #!/scratchbox/tools/bin/perl

2006-11-03 Thread Rafael Espíndola
It does not seem to be down: I just checked the bugs and filed a new one. :) Are you sure you used https as the protocol? What error message do you get? It was a sql error. It is ok now. Thanks, Rafael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-develop

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-11-03 Thread Armin M. Warda
> By the way, can someone confirm or deny that the backup tool > does not back up your /etc/apt/sources.list and therefore you > will have to re-add all the application manager repositories > manually? Confirmed. Thus it is a good idea to copy it to the MMC before you do the backup/reflash/restor

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-11-03 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Michael Wiktowy wrote: That is also something that could be said for the flashing through the USB method too. If that is interrupted then you are likely equally unable to boot your 770. However, you can always try again ... There is big difference. You don't need the device to be bootable for

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-11-03 Thread Antonio Orlando
I think that using tar to back up and restore applications installed with apt/dpkg would be a Bad Idea. Can I ask why? I have not enough Linux knowledge to answer this (stupid?) question myself. In a Windows environment, I can backup/restore everything just with rar/unrar, having care to ins

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-11-03 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Antonio Orlando wrote: I think that using tar to back up and restore applications installed with apt/dpkg would be a Bad Idea. Can I ask why? I have not enough Linux knowledge to answer this (stupid?) question myself. dpkg packages has postinst and prerm scripts that get executed while inst

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-11-03 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Am Freitag, 3. November 2006 19:52 schrieb Marius Gedminas: > It should be pretty easy to get a list of installed packages from apt > (or the application installer) before the flash, and then reinstall them > in one swoop with apt-get install.  I plan to figure this out over the > weekend. dpkg --

Re: [maemo-developers] flasher does not detect device anymore

2006-11-03 Thread Detlef Schmicker
After hours of searching I found: newer linux kernels need a patch for flasher-2.0 please add a patched version for download from wiki:: A fix for this is to run the following command: perl -pi -e 's-/proc/bus/usb-/dev/bus/usb\000-;' -i.backup where is the location of your (already checked

Re: [maemo-developers] kernel source for 2.2006.39-14?

2006-11-03 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Frantisek Dufka wrote: the 2.6.16.27-omap1 kernel in 2.2006.39-14 is significantly different from the previous one => old modules are incompatible with newer kernel, older kernel causes reboot loop when flashed Looks like the 'significantly different' mainly means version magic 2.6.16.27-oma

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-11-03 Thread Michel Salim
On 11/3/06, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 11:27:16PM -0500, Michel Salim wrote: > Speaking of the image, where is it? Both nokia.com and maemo.org still > lists the original IT2006 release from May. http://maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770 The new OS2006 image i