Re: How much are Nxxx open?

2009-09-01 Thread Xavier Bestel
Hi, On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 18:27 -0400, Jason Edgecombe wrote: I'm not sure how open the phone part is because they haven't come out yet. I can tell you that the non-phone predecessors are very open. There are two things that aren't open: the OpenGL video drivers and the wifi drivers.

Re: How much are Nxxx open?

2009-09-01 Thread Ralph Angenendt
On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 09:52 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 18:27 -0400, Jason Edgecombe wrote: I'm not sure how open the phone part is because they haven't come out yet. I can tell you that the non-phone predecessors are very open. There are two things that aren't

Re: How much are Nxxx open?

2009-09-01 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 10:54 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 09:52 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 18:27 -0400, Jason Edgecombe wrote: I'm not sure how open the phone part is because they haven't come out yet. I can tell you that the non-phone

Code cookbook for Maemo?

2009-09-01 Thread tero.kojo
Hi, A few guys from our product management got an idea of a 'code cookbook'. A sort of wiki-like place where you could copy-paste snippets of code, tag and comment on them. Then by searching on the tags or text you could find pieces of code that do a specific thing. The idea would be to make

Re: Code cookbook for Maemo?

2009-09-01 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi, 2009/9/1 tero.k...@nokia.com: Hi, A few guys from our product management got an idea of a 'code cookbook'. A sort of wiki-like place where you could copy-paste snippets of code, tag and comment on them. Then by searching on the tags or text you could find pieces of code that do a

Re: Code cookbook for Maemo?

2009-09-01 Thread gary liquid
tero, great idea! on this subject, a couple of days ago i updated the wiki article on accelerometers to include a smoothing function (if required) which works really well on my x41 and stopped any jitter :) gary On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi,

WRT or W3C widgets

2009-09-01 Thread Delfim Machado
Hi all, i've searched in the archives and found nothing about this, so here is my question. Since this is mobile computer/OS web 2.0, do you plan to support WRT/ W3C widgets? Best. DM ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org

Re: WRT or W3C widgets

2009-09-01 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, ext Delfim Machado wrote: Hi all, i've searched in the archives and found nothing about this, so here is my question. Since this is mobile computer/OS web 2.0, do you plan to support WRT/ W3C widgets? They are currently not supported but they will be coming at some point. Official

Re: Code cookbook for Maemo?

2009-09-01 Thread Valerio Valerio
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2009/9/1 tero.k...@nokia.com: Hi, A few guys from our product management got an idea of a 'code cookbook'. A sort of wiki-like place where you could copy-paste snippets of code, tag and comment on them. Then

Re: Code cookbook for Maemo?

2009-09-01 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Sep 1, 2009, at 12:49, tero.k...@nokia.com tero.k...@nokia.com wrote: Hi, A few guys from our product management got an idea of a 'code cookbook'. A sort of wiki-like place where you could copy-paste snippets of code, tag and comment on them. Then by searching on the tags or

Re: WRT or W3C widgets

2009-09-01 Thread Valerio Valerio
Hello, On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Delfim Machado d...@co.sapo.pt wrote: Hi all, i've searched in the archives and found nothing about this, so here is my question. Since this is mobile computer/OS web 2.0, do you plan to support WRT/ W3C widgets? I guess Nokia WRT will be

Re: WRT or W3C widgets

2009-09-01 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
Nice question for Nokia World QA Wiki [1], I've added it [1] http://wiki.maemo.org/NokiaWorld_2009_QA#N900_browser_questions 2009/9/1 Delfim Machado d...@co.sapo.pt: Hi all, i've searched in the archives and found nothing about this, so here is my question. Since this is mobile computer/OS

Re: WRT or W3C widgets

2009-09-01 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
It seems I can add the answer to the wiki too :( It seems interesting seeing that Nokia will add Nokia WRT support in Maemo (based on Webkit in Symbian devices) since it is using Gecko/Mozilla runtime in Maemo... Are maemo WRT people involved (somehow) in W3C WebbApps initiative[1]? I know Art

Re: Code cookbook for Maemo?

2009-09-01 Thread Henrik Hedberg
tero.k...@nokia.com wrote: A few guys from our product management got an idea of a 'code cookbook'. A sort of wiki-like place where you could copy-paste snippets of code, tag and comment on them. Then by searching on the tags or text you could find pieces of code that do a specific thing.

Re: WRT or W3C widgets

2009-09-01 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
Well, again, I have to answer myself. It seems that W3C widgets will work in Maemo 5, or at least is under development: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/0086.html [...]An application author wrote an application for Maemo 4, and we tested it in Maemo 5[...] Since W3C

Re: WRT or W3C widgets

2009-09-01 Thread Delfim Machado
Thanks all for your answers. DM On Sep 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: Nice question for Nokia World QA Wiki [1], I've added it [1] http://wiki.maemo.org/NokiaWorld_2009_QA#N900_browser_questions 2009/9/1 Delfim Machado d...@co.sapo.pt: Hi all, i've

Re: WRT or W3C widgets

2009-09-01 Thread Delfim Machado
All good news, keep them coming! :) DM On Sep 1, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: Well, again, I have to answer myself. It seems that W3C widgets will work in Maemo 5, or at least is under development: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/

Re: WRT or W3C widgets

2009-09-01 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:49, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuentejsmanri...@gmail.com wrote: Well, again, I have to answer myself. It seems that W3C widgets will work in Maemo 5, or at least is under development: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/0086.html [...]An

Developer device program

2009-09-01 Thread ds
Hay, I wonder, if I am the only guy left reading this mailing list, who does not have a N900. Does anybody know about the plans for a developer device program. In case this will not be availible: Can anybody test programs on the N900 device? Would be happy to know, if my application is working

Re: Developer device program

2009-09-01 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi, 2009/9/1 ds d...@physik.de: Hay, I wonder, if I am the only guy left reading this mailing list, who does not have a N900. don't worry, you're not alone :) Does anybody know about the plans for a developer device program. I can suppose they're going to repeat it, but really don't know

Re: How much are Nxxx open?

2009-09-01 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Frantisek Dufkaduf...@seznam.cz wrote: Nicola Mfb wrote: [...] Bootloader on N8x0 and 770 is closed. Kernel and rootfs can be replaced but for best experience one needs to stay with Nokia released kernel versions (2.6.18, 2.6.21). Other versions boot too but not

Re: How much are Nxxx open?

2009-09-01 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Nicola Mfb wrote: I come from OpenMoko Freerunner experience, where I'm able to flash the bootloader, the logo, the kernel, the rootfs and have multiple boot option to run several linux distro on different sd partitions. There are two bootloaders, the first in NOR readonly, the second in NAND

Re: Developer device program

2009-09-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:51 +0200 schrieb ds: Can anybody test programs on the N900 device? A few people are currently testing some applications. I don't think that testing all available apps before the N900 gets released is possible though as there's also lots of other stuff to do - you

Re: Code cookbook for Maemo?

2009-09-01 Thread Benoît HERVIER
If you do a such cookbook i ll like to link it with PySnippet ! Best regards, On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Henrik Hedberghenrik.hedb...@innologies.fi wrote: tero.k...@nokia.com wrote: A few guys from our product management got an idea of a 'code cookbook'. A sort of wiki-like place where

Re: Developer device program

2009-09-01 Thread Luca Donaggio
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.comwrote: Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:51 +0200 schrieb ds: Can anybody test programs on the N900 device? A few people are currently testing some applications. I don't think that testing all available apps before the N900

Re: Developer device program

2009-09-01 Thread ds
Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:55 +0200 schrieb Andrea Grandi: Hi, 2009/9/1 ds d...@physik.de: Hay, I wonder, if I am the only guy left reading this mailing list, who does not have a N900. don't worry, you're not alone :) Great, or not:-) Does anybody know about the plans for

Getting information on N900 build (was: Developer device program)

2009-09-01 Thread ds
Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 15:04 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper: Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:51 +0200 schrieb ds: Can anybody test programs on the N900 device? A few people are currently testing some applications. I don't think that testing all available apps before the N900 gets

Re: Getting information on N900 build (was: Developer device program)

2009-09-01 Thread Valerio Valerio
Hi, On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:21 PM, ds d...@physik.de wrote: Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 15:04 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper: Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:51 +0200 schrieb ds: Can anybody test programs on the N900 device? A few people are currently testing some applications. I don't

Re: Developer device program

2009-09-01 Thread Luca Donaggio
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:13 PM, ds d...@physik.de wrote: Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:55 +0200 schrieb Andrea Grandi: Hi, 2009/9/1 ds d...@physik.de: Hay, I wonder, if I am the only guy left reading this mailing list, who does not have a N900. don't worry, you're not

Re: Developer device program

2009-09-01 Thread Luca Donaggio
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Luca Donaggio donag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:13 PM, ds d...@physik.de wrote: Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:55 +0200 schrieb Andrea Grandi: Hi, 2009/9/1 ds d...@physik.de: Hay, I wonder, if I am the only guy left reading

Re: How much are Nxxx open?

2009-09-01 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Nicola Mfb wrote: With N900 we don't know yet but hopefully the bootloader will be u-boot. That's nice, the best would be if we'll be able to update/replace u-boot, and have a way to debrick the device if something goes wrong. u-boot is just my guess, any other choice does not look sane to

Re: How much are Nxxx open?

2009-09-01 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Frantisek Dufkaduf...@seznam.cz wrote: Nicola Mfb wrote: With N900 we don't know yet but hopefully the bootloader will be u-boot. That's nice, the best would be if we'll be able to update/replace u-boot, and have a way to debrick the device if something goes

Re: How much are Nxxx open?

2009-09-01 Thread Jari Kirma
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Frantisek Dufka wrote: Nicola Mfb wrote: With N900 we don't know yet but hopefully the bootloader will be u-boot. That's nice, the best would be if we'll be able to update/replace u-boot, and have a way to debrick the device if something goes wrong. u-boot is just my

Re: Developer device program

2009-09-01 Thread Benoît HERVIER
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Luca Donaggiodonag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Luca Donaggio donag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:13 PM, ds d...@physik.de wrote: Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 14:55 +0200 schrieb Andrea Grandi: Hi, 2009/9/1 ds

Re: Developer device program

2009-09-01 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi, 2009/9/2 Benoît HERVIER kher...@khertan.net: i ve done some test with the sdk and my apps ... but python isn't stable at all ... segfault everytimes :( please could you submit Python related bugs/segfault tu bugs.maemo.org choosing PyMaemo ad product, so the whole PyMaemo team will be