Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-19 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer., 2010-06-16 at 13:15 +0300, Sivan Greenberg wrote: > > I think you are barking at the wrong tree - pulseaudio should get way > > better latency than 5000ms, otherwise it would be useless for pretty > > much everything. > > My thought exactly. If that really is the case, a proper phone > co

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-19 Thread Ian Stirling
Benno Senoner wrote: Thanks to all for your responses, yes I agree with what you said. I will try to track the evolution of the audio subsystem on meego and provide my feedback and findings. I'll discuss the issue with the JACK authors too what they think about it, about adding power management

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-19 Thread Benno Senoner
Thanks to all for your responses, yes I agree with what you said. I will try to track the evolution of the audio subsystem on meego and provide my feedback and findings. I'll discuss the issue with the JACK authors too what they think about it, about adding power management to jack etc. (the main

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-18 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Benno Senoner wrote: > Sadly, this week Nokia stock again dropped like a rock, while Apple > gets preorders for 600k Iphone 4 in a day and have trouble > to process all the orders. Does that not ring  alarm bell at Nokia ? Right, this is certainly not the appropri

RE: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-18 Thread Nathan Anderson
opers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Benno Senoner Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 6:19 AM To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future I know that I'm a bit a repetitive person, but my intent is to raise

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-18 Thread Robin Burchell
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Benno Senoner wrote: > and the only responses I get back is that I should not "whine". No > technical responses at all, how the latency can be lowered using other > APIs etc.. The actual responses from both myself and Ville were that you're really not in the righ

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-18 Thread Benno Senoner
I know that I'm a bit a repetitive person, but my intent is to raise an alarm, that nowadays companies cannot afford to ship, half-finished, half-baked, buggy systems, and moreover chose the vastly inferiour (pulseaudio) open source component over the better (JACK2 audio server). I reported my find

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-16 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Benno Senoner wrote: > I just represent a multimedia developer wanting to use the platform > and point out the flaws in order to contribute to improve it. ... and that is appreciated. OTOH it's waste of typing to engage in long diatribes about business models and

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-16 Thread Benno Senoner
regards, Benno The LinuxSampler project http://www.linuxsampler.org 2010/6/16 Ville M. Vainio : > > I think you are barking at the wrong tree - pulseaudio should get way > better latency than 5000ms, otherwise it would be useless for pretty > much everything. > > You should take this up at bugrep

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-16 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Ville M. Vainio wrote: > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Benno Senoner > wrote: > >> If Nokia can show us that pulse audio is able to achieve >> stable,dropout-free 10-20 msec audio latencies in any audio app >> requiring it and working perfectly >> when using Q

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-16 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Benno Senoner wrote: > If Nokia can show us that pulse audio is able to achieve > stable,dropout-free 10-20 msec audio latencies in any audio app > requiring it and working perfectly > when using QAudioInput/QAudioOutput classes then I'll shut up and take > my wo

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-16 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 11:56 +0200, Benno Senoner wrote: > Hi, > Can you back up your claims that pulseaudio uses less CPU than JACK ? > pulseaudio cannot do wonders, if mixing is required the code must sum > up the inputs, jack does this > already in the most efficient manner and one can easily add

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-16 Thread Benno Senoner
Hi, Can you back up your claims that pulseaudio uses less CPU than JACK ? pulseaudio cannot do wonders, if mixing is required the code must sum up the inputs, jack does this already in the most efficient manner and one can easily add ARM vector code to speed it up. I mean if battery is a concern th

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-16 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 01:27 +0200, Benno Senoner wrote: > So my advice to Nokia, while still in time, cosider switching to JACK > as an audio server for future versions of Meego, The N900 already sucks batteries like mad. JACK is a no-compromise low-latency pro audio server, and does it at the exp

Re: Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-15 Thread Robin Burchell
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Benno Senoner wrote: > Hi all, > I'm writing an interactive app on the N900 with PR 1.2. which captures > audio and analyzes it. Hi Benno, I think you would probably recieve better answers if you did two things: 1) split your points up into logical groupings 2)

Low Latency Audio Capture on the N900, QAudioInput BUG: has 5000msec latency, Meego audio future

2010-06-15 Thread Benno Senoner
Hi all, I'm writing an interactive app on the N900 with PR 1.2. which captures audio and analyzes it. I used QAudioInput and while audio capture works, is has an EXTREMELY high latency, several seconds, (around 3-5secs). I tried several sample rates, 8000, 44100, 48000 Hz, tried with small buffer