Hi,
we are planning to put some features into the Application Manager that
will make it more restrictive when handling the packages that make up
the operating system itself (as opposed to third party applications).
We would like to get your feedback on these plans, both from the
end-user point
As a user, I like how this sounds. I hope it also means that the
Application Manager and user experience will be largely free of having
to add repositories. This could make finding new applications easier
and more complete than the current process which still requires some
desire to explore and
ext Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As a user, I like how this sounds. I hope it also means that the
Application Manager and user experience will be largely free of
having to add repositories.
That is a separate thing, but yes, locking down system package
upgrades might make it
Marius Vollmer wrote:
We would like to get your feedback on these plans, both from the
end-user point of view and from the point of view of package
developers.
Thank you for asking. That attitude is one of the reasons I like this
platform.
There is going to be a 'meta' package that
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 09:06:35PM +0100, Magnus Larsson wrote:
I have just set up ssh on my N770, using dropbear. However, in the list
of installed applications the dropbear-client is marked as broken. This
seem not to affect ssh-server though, as there is no problems accessing
the N770
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 12:04:00AM +, Carlos GP wrote:
I'm trying to load a browser into maemo emulator (in xephyr) but:
- I can't find neither the source nor the binaries
Opera is closed-source. It is not available for the emulator.
insert standard rant here
Marius Gedminas
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Dear maemo.org wiki Editors and Readers,
We are in the middle of converting the old documentation to our new Midgard
Content Management System. As part of this activity we have created a tool that
will import the existing wiki pages to Midgard's Markdown [1] syntax. The
documents written by you
On Thursday, February 15, 2007, at 01:09PM, David Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Marius Vollmer wrote:
We would like to get your feedback on these plans, both from the
end-user point of view and from the point of view of package
developers.
Thank you for asking. That attitude is one of
As for the concrete plan:
There is going to be a 'meta' package that represents the whole
operating system. Updates to the OS are done by updating this meta
package in the Application Manager. The meta package will have
dependencies on all packages with their exact versions that make up
Thanks Frantisek and all for your responses. I am most concerned about the
bricking scenarios resulting from flashing a 770 to set it into RD mode,
where the 770 sometimes bricks after rebooting. Are there bricking scenarios
in this reboot situation which involve corruption beyond MMC reboot?
Hi!
On 2/15/07, Ferenc Szekely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are in the middle of converting the old documentation to our new Midgard
Content Management System. As part of this activity we have created a tool that
will import the existing wiki pages to Midgard's Markdown [1] syntax.
Actually,
All,
there is a company, rpath, that is providing some if not all of what is
needed for management of the OS codebase. Here is the url to a press
release for their product:
http://www.rpath.com/corp/news-and-events/rpath-continues-momentum-with-addition-of-9.1m-in-fu-5.html
Maybe Nokia
Has anyone had success connecting through a VZ phone for data
connectivity? I have a friend who is going to return an N800 since he
can't get online through the phone...
I know VZ and Sprint have made it tough previously... but someone must
have figured it out.
Thanks,
JG
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Jonathan Greene
ext Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 09:06:35PM +0100, Magnus Larsson wrote:
[: ==: unknown operand
Bug in dropbear's postinst script. Find the line that uses == inside [ ]
and replace it with =. You can do that in
/var/lib/dpkg/info/dropbear-client.postinst, I think, but it
JG,
yes. I have successfully tested it with a N800 DUN-ning to a Verizon
XV6700. I am surprised how well it works, in fact, better than my
Bluetooth headset to the 6700. Verizon Wireless as you know is not
friendly towards tethering because Verizon Wireless offers a lower price
on their
Jonathan
I am using a treo 700p this way, but it feels a little goofy when what I
really wanted was just a simple flipphone. Also, it doesn't perform as
well as my last phone, maxing out just short of 400kbps.
I had a motorola e815 that was working great with a typical 600kbps.
After a mandatory
what settings are you guys using? thanks!!
On 2/15/07, Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jonathan
I am using a treo 700p this way, but it feels a little goofy when what I
really wanted was just a simple flipphone. Also, it doesn't perform as
well as my last phone, maxing out just short of
I added in the repository for bora on openhand, to get dates and
contacts.
(By the way, it would be much easier to google for these things if it
was called
o-hand-dates or some such thing).
The libraries in the repository can't be installed (Incompatible
application package),
and as a
2007/2/15, Jon A. Solworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I added in the repository for bora on openhand, to get dates and
contacts.
(By the way, it would be much easier to google for these things if it
was called
o-hand-dates or some such thing).
The libraries in the repository can't be installed
Luca Donaggio wrote:
2007/2/15, Jon A. Solworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I added in the repository for bora on openhand, to get dates and
contacts.
(By the way, it would be much easier to google for these things if it
was called
o-hand-dates or some
On 2/15/07, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The set of trusted sources will be under control of a power-user: you
can just add some GPG keys to the right place, but there is no UI to
do it. You can also switch the whole lock-down machinery off by going
to red-pill mode.
So whaddaya
ext David Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Might I suggest two meta packages - one locked down to This version
only and one specifying this version or later.
As Paul says, I think we can leave this second meta package out of the
official releases.
ext Andy Mulhearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So are you looking to move away from the System Upgrade := reflash
device model? If so, then GOOD!
To be honest I prefer this route now, if only from the point of view
that if I bork my device I can reflash an image and get it working
again.
I
On Thursday, February 15, 2007, at 04:12PM, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
ext Andy Mulhearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So are you looking to move away from the System Upgrade := reflash
device model? If so, then GOOD!
To be honest I prefer this route now, if only from the point
Hi,
ext Andy Mulhearn wrote:
So are you looking to move away from the System Upgrade := reflash
device model? If so, then GOOD!
To be honest I prefer this route now, if only from the point of view
that if I bork my device I can reflash an image and get it working
again.
I am not sure if there
ext Andy Mulhearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I suppose that depends on how reliable is the incremental flash
process. If it's 100% then there should be no problems with what you
suggest.
That's one thing that we have to figure out.
My only concern would be getting into a Windows XP-like
ext Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ext Andy Mulhearn wrote:
But if you can just apply a major firmware upgrade by accepting it
in application manager and you don't think to backup first, what
happens it goes wrong leaving you with an unworkable system?
Good point, I think the
On 2/15/07, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My only concern would be getting into a Windows XP-like situation
where you reinstall with XP SP1 becaude that's what came with your
system and then have to install SP2 and 100+ hotfixes to get back to
where you were.
I have zero
Marius Vollmer wrote:
There is going to be a 'meta' package that represents the whole
operating system. Updates to the OS are done by updating this meta
package in the Application Manager. The meta package will have
dependencies on all packages with their exact versions that make up
the
On 2/15/07, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I grant you a brief peek into our internal software
requirements... :-)
22.3.1.3: The Application manager shall suggest a backup to be taken
before a system update is installed.
Rebooting and checking for enough free flash will
ext Paul Klapperich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
22.3.1.3: The Application manager shall suggest a backup to be taken
before a system update is installed.
Would this just be for major updates--perhaps those than cause a
change in the firmware revision number--or would this be
I grant you a brief peek into our internal software
requirements... :-)
22.3.1.3: The Application manager shall suggest a backup to be taken
before a system update is installed.
Rebooting and checking for enough free flash will also be taken care
of.
Yeah, we should be doing this
Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I grant you a brief peek into our internal software
requirements... :-)
22.3.1.3: The Application manager shall suggest a backup to be taken
before a system update is installed.
Rebooting and checking for enough free flash will also be
On 15 Feb 2007, at 16:47, Paul Klapperich wrote:
On 2/15/07, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My only concern would be getting into a Windows XP-like situation
where you reinstall with XP SP1 becaude that's what came with your
system and then have to install SP2 and 100+ hotfixes to
On 15 Feb 2007, at 16:39, Marius Vollmer wrote:
ext Andy Mulhearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I suppose that depends on how reliable is the incremental flash
process. If it's 100% then there should be no problems with what you
suggest.
That's one thing that we have to figure out.
In the future, we hope to be able to provide official updates to the
operating system itself via packages, and we need to give the
end-users the confidence that when they intend to install a Nokia
provided operating system update, they actually get what they think
they are getting.
Great!
My thought is that it might be worthwhile to have a constant warning written
at the bottom of the Check for Updates dialog in the Application manager.
A user should really backup before any update, but prompting with a dialog
that frequently will only encourage users to ignore it. Major updates
Hi,
I'm looking for rsync in order to use grsync, byt only see this:
http://vidar.gimp.org/770/
Anyone knows the rsnync repository? Thanks :)
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Has anyone experienced any problems converting WMV files using VidConvert? I
converted three today and they came out looking great, but no sound on my 770
If not, does anyone know of any alternatives? Especially ones I could do using
only my nokia?
thanks,
K
--
In Vino Veritas
I have yet to try it, but I ran across http://heywatch.com yesterday
an it's has some slick features like RSS and FTP subs for your
files...
On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone experienced any problems converting WMV files using VidConvert? I
converted three
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:25:41AM -0800, Andy Mulhearn wrote:
On Thursday, February 15, 2007, at 04:12PM, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not sure if there will always be flash image for each version of
the meta package, but there will always be reasonably recent flash
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 03:18:12PM -0500, Jonathan Greene wrote:
I have yet to try it, but I ran across http://heywatch.com yesterday
an it's has some slick features like RSS and FTP subs for your
files...
Thank you Jonathan, I can always count on yoiu to have some recently discovered
and
Thanks - yeah for viewing wmv, mp4 or mov you have to convert either
through bookmarket or upload... I know heywatch supports both.
VIdcovert is great for bookmarklet - though I have yet to try more
than flv.
On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at
ext Levi Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Say you've just released an OS metapackage, maemo 3.1 sturgeon, and
then one the guys working on cairo makes a huge breakthrough in
speed and stability. You want users to be able to upgrade, but now
you have to release a new OS metapackage to do so,
Yes, and I actually see this as a feature, since there is no apt-get
upgrade functionality in the Application Manager. Users would get
the newer vesion of cairo by accident, when they install or upgrade a
non-hidden package that depends on cairo.
Semi-related: how about an Upgrade All button
Neil MacLeod wrote:
I like the idea of being able to apply OS patches, however it sounds
like this functionality doesn't quite fit in the Application Manager
application so why not provide a separate Upgrade Operating System GUI
application that has all the checks and balances you need built
On Thursday 15 February 2007 08:10:07 Marius Vollmer wrote:
ext Andy Mulhearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So are you looking to move away from the System Upgrade := reflash
device model? If so, then GOOD!
To be honest I prefer this route now, if only from the point of view
that if I bork
Jonathan,
here are the urls to some (overlapping) suggested solutions pertaining
to DUN (bluetooth and USB) and Verizon:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=825860page=1pp=15
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64889
On Thursday 15 February 2007 11:38:29 Marius Vollmer wrote:
ext Levi Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Say you've just released an OS metapackage, maemo 3.1 sturgeon, and
then one the guys working on cairo makes a huge breakthrough in
speed and stability. You want users to be able to upgrade,
thanks - much appreciated!
On 2/15/07, Acadia Secure Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jonathan,
here are the urls to some (overlapping) suggested solutions pertaining to
DUN (bluetooth and USB) and Verizon:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=825860page=1pp=15
On 2/15/07, James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 15 February 2007 11:38:29 Marius Vollmer wrote:
With a version locked meta package, we can make sure that the user
gets the right combinations of packages.
umm Maybe I'm missing something but since this is debian based .deb's
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