Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Remco Rijnders a écrit : On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 09:33:44PM +0200, lebarhon wrote: Le 19/06/2011 10:28, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : Nobody said anything against your efforts although I don't see any reason there (and I haven't seen any discussion in the webteam where it was decided to do so), W

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 09:33:44PM +0200, lebarhon wrote: Le 19/06/2011 10:28, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : Nobody said anything against your efforts although I don't see any reason there (and I haven't seen any discussion in the webteam where it was decided to do so), Who the hell are you to dar

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Le 19/06/2011 10:28, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : Nobody said anything against your efforts although I don't see any reason there (and I haven't seen any discussion in the webteam where it was decided to do so), Who the hell are you to dare say I am a liar ! https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

2011/6/19 lebarhon : > Le 18/06/2011 13:19, Michael Scherer a écrit : >> >> Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200, lebarhon a écrit : >> >> 1) can you please avoid posting as html to the list ? >> >> 2) if you wish to serve as a human gateway really between forum and ml >> ( which I didn't ask, I am

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Le 18/06/2011 13:19, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200, lebarhon a écrit : 1) can you please avoid posting as html to the list ? 2) if you wish to serve as a human gateway really between forum and ml ( which I didn't ask, I am smart enough to read forum by myself, a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Op zaterdag 18 juni 2011 15:59:33 schreef Michael Scherer: > Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 13:42 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : > > Op zaterdag 18 juni 2011 13:35:34 schreef Samuel Verschelde: > > > Le samedi 18 juin 2011 13:19:16, Michael Scherer a écrit : > > > > Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 13:42 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : > Op zaterdag 18 juni 2011 13:35:34 schreef Samuel Verschelde: > > Le samedi 18 juin 2011 13:19:16, Michael Scherer a écrit : > > > Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200, lebarhon a écrit : > > > > > > 1) can you please avoid posting a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 13:35 +0200, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : > Le samedi 18 juin 2011 13:19:16, Michael Scherer a écrit : > > Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200, lebarhon a écrit : > > > > 1) can you please avoid posting as html to the list ? > > > > 2) if you wish to serve as a human gate

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Op zaterdag 18 juni 2011 13:35:34 schreef Samuel Verschelde: > Le samedi 18 juin 2011 13:19:16, Michael Scherer a écrit : > > Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200, lebarhon a écrit : > > > > 1) can you please avoid posting as html to the list ? > > > > 2) if you wish to serve as a human gateway r

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Le samedi 18 juin 2011 13:19:16, Michael Scherer a écrit : > Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200, lebarhon a écrit : > > 1) can you please avoid posting as html to the list ? > > 2) if you wish to serve as a human gateway really between forum and ml > ( which I didn't ask, I am smart enough to r

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200, lebarhon a écrit : 1) can you please avoid posting as html to the list ? 2) if you wish to serve as a human gateway really between forum and ml ( which I didn't ask, I am smart enough to read forum by myself, as I helped install them among others ), can you

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by *keksbaecker * » Jun 18th, '11, 11:07 I am also just a simple end user and for me it is more important to have a stable and running System than having the the latest Desktop Environment installed. Personally I think a new

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by wobo » Jun 18th, '11, 00:54 magnus wrote:(In the past ELP had a song "Lucky man") Most people forget that Lucky Man became worm fodder at the end of the song. But you can always enter the Zeppelin and take the Stairway

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by magnus » Jun 17th, '11, 20:55 isadora wrote:Today i started adding the cauldron-repositories, and did a first update to my test-Mageia. Today I have done the same job. about 20 minutes - good internet connection an

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by *isadora * » Jun 17th, '11, 20:04 Must admit magnus is right about the difference between "technical" and "regular"-users. Today i started adding the cauldron-repositories, and did a first update to my test-Mageia. The first

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by magnus » Jun 17th, '11, 19:26 I think the whole discussion is dominated by "technical" users. I, as a simple user, need a stable, secure system where I can use my applications. Gnome 2, 3, 4 ??? KDE 4.6, 4. 7, 5.0 ??? What does it matter. At the office a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by *wobo * » Jun 17th, '11, 18:50 Several points jumped through my synapses reading Trio3b's post. A thought I had many times before: are the users ready for such Linux distributions? I do not mean any technical skills, no user

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by *Trio3b * » Jun 17th, '11, 17:55 Must preface this reply by saying I am not a coder, developer, packager. Just an end user. Long time MDV user (ver. 10.0). I have tried almost every distro out there for fun but on my main de

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

2011/6/16 lebarhon > It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to upgrade > Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary users know a newer > version is available and a simple click to upgrade it. > Look to Mageia App DB (in testing) There is growing a good interface.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Le 16/06/2011 19:57, lebarhon a écrit : by *pmithrandir * » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 On my side, I think mageia should do a "mix" of others idea. I would say : - A release every year. - During this year, a way to update some popu

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by *pmithrandir * » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 On my side, I think mageia should do a "mix" of others idea. I would say : - A release every year. - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff (firefox, chrome, libreoffice.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by *pmithrandir * » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 On my side, I think mageia should do a "mix" of others idea. I would say : - A release every year. - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff (firefox, chrome, libreoffice..

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by dave » Jun 14th, '11, 22:32 One release every year with the related updated (don't wait one year for have ad updated software) is better. The best could be an half-rolling like chakra but this option isn't in the proposals

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

2011/6/14 Margot : > > Forums aren't exactly 'modern' - they're just a BBS with added > graphics. You put the whole discussion into the perspective it deserves! Thx for making my day! -- wobo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 22:35:21 schreef Margot: > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:57:03 +0200 > > Maarten Vanraes wrote: > > Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 16:22:42 schreef Lee Forest: > > [...] > > > > > Android mail does that by default. But that just proves my > > > other point. Half the time these replies

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:57:03 +0200 Maarten Vanraes wrote: > Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 16:22:42 schreef Lee Forest: > [...] > > Android mail does that by default. But that just proves my > > other point. Half the time these replies complaining about top > > posting, lazyness, or 'netiquette' are bei

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 16:22:42 schreef Lee Forest: [...] > Android mail does that by default. But that just proves my other point. > Half the time these replies complaining about top posting, lazyness, or > 'netiquette' are being shot back instead of useful respones. In a forum > this is much les

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

'Twas brillig, and Lee Forest at 14/06/11 13:52 did gyre and gimble: > mailing list might work best for a couple people but is it worth > inconveniencing the rest of the word because you are a die hard mailing > list user I've posted the arguments before and I'll do it again, despite this thread g

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On 06/14/2011 10:22 AM, Lee Forest wrote: On 06/14/2011 10:03 AM, Frank Griffin wrote: That's not caused by an ML, it's caused by people being lazy and quoting the entire message to which they're replying, which is a breach of netiquette. As is top-posting :-) Android mail does that by default

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On 06/14/2011 10:03 AM, Frank Griffin wrote: > On 06/14/2011 09:38 AM, Lee Forest wrote: >> >> And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't >> let your system do redundant tasks. Look how many times a >> conversation is repeated throughout its life time in a mailing list. >> T

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 15:38, Lee Forest wrote: > And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let your > system do redundant tasks. As golden as the need to not to have redundancy: it depends. Redundancy can be very, very appreciated. But not always in a discussion (be it

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On 06/14/2011 09:38 AM, Lee Forest wrote: And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let your system do redundant tasks. Look how many times a conversation is repeated throughout its life time in a mailing list. Thats alot of redundant data using up server traffic. T

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let your system do redundant tasks. Look how many times a conversation is repeated throughout its life time in a mailing list. Thats alot of redundant data using up server traffic. In a forum everything is more central. A lot less r

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

Lee Forest said on Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 08:52:50AM -0400: > Only a couple people so far are hooked on mailing > lists. Yes, all the ones who really work on making the distro ! And I can't take that opportunity to thank them :-) My self +1 for ML, -1 for forums. Bruno. -- Open Source & Linux P

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

On 06/14/2011 09:07 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: So, IMHO this discussion is as meaningless as the famous/infamous vi vs emacs discussions of way back when. +1 Not to mention that if you don't like getting emails, you can always simply use the archives to find what interests you.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

I've been around when there were no forums, just news groups and mailing lists. And I have been posting in forums since they were invented (even in early CompuServe times). What I found out over all these years: 1. All these reasons which have been posted here and in previous threads since the beg

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

I agree. Mailing lists are messy and hard to follow. And sometimes the only response you get is about how you sent the message wrong. I bet more people would use the forums. Only a couple people so far are hooked on mailing lists. Im seeing more and more comments coming in about this. forums would

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

'Twas brillig, and lebarhon at 14/06/11 11:42 did gyre and gimble: > by *roadrunner > * » > Jun 13th, '11, 22:24 > > pmithrandir wrote:BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated > and that mageia should have a special

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by *roadrunner * » Jun 13th, '11, 22:24 pmithrandir wrote:BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that mageia should have a special section in this forum for these discussion, or maybe another forum. It'

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion - messages from the forum

by *corbintech * » Jun 13th, '11, 22:12 I quit the ML because I was not doing it right (never used a list like that before). So if I may, I will post here what somebody responded to me and write my response here. compl