[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-14 Thread Richard
On Wed, 14 Feb 2024, Tim Houseman wrote: Thanks for the response. I thought this was the answer but it is nice to have confirmation. I'd love to tell my client that they need better trained subscribers but the only answer I ever get is "Training our membership is not an option" when there are

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-13 Thread Richard
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Mark Sapiro wrote: The larger problem notwithstanding, the OP's situation is much simpler. He doesn't want to remove irrelevant quotes from incoming mail. He only wants to remove the specific list footer. This could probably be done in Mailman's incoming runner, but fi

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 2/12/24 5:30 AM, Richard wrote: A VERY straight-forward strategy would be to diff the current inbound against the previous one it was in reply to - using threading as already cited. No LLM is needed, well trained or otherwise, and neither is it "quite complex." It's surely far easier than

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-12 Thread Dmitri Maziuk
On 2/12/24 10:32, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 2/12/2024 5:30 AM, Richard wrote: That's just silly: We've had "diff" for over THREE full decades now, to say nothing of the variants. And diff is going to fail for this, at least part of the time. The obvious solution is to have an empty footer, then

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-12 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 2/12/2024 5:30 AM, Richard wrote: That's just silly: We've had "diff" for over THREE full decades now, to say nothing of the variants. And diff is going to fail for this, at least part of the time. A VERY straight-forward strategy would be to diff the current inbound against the previous o

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-12 Thread Richard
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: ...snip... Otherwise, not generically, short of plugging in a well-trained LLM. The problem is that quoting conventions etc differ across mail clients, as do signature blocks. If the signature appears below the quoted footer, it will become

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-12 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 12:02 PM Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Carl Zwanzig writes: > > > And unfortunately, solving "people problems" with technology seldom > > ends well. > > I find that using appropriate technology often helps me be a less > problematic p

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-12 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Carl Zwanzig writes: > And unfortunately, solving "people problems" with technology seldom > ends well. I find that using appropriate technology often helps me be a less problematic people. :-) Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-u

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 2/10/24 09:56, Carl Zwanzig wrote: (arguments for top posting and not trimming quotes- "But it's got the entire conversation in the message! You never need the older messages" "You say that like it's a good thing, and I already -have- the older messages. In my inbox.") And more important

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-10 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 2/9/2024 3:31 PM, H Ian Zhang via Mailman-Users wrote: This is, of course, an organisational/educationl issue, not a technical one. And unfortunately, solving "people problems" with technology seldom ends well. (arguments for top posting and not trimming quotes- "But it's got the entire c

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-09 Thread Barry S. Finkel
On 2/9/2024 10:57 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 2/8/2024 3:24 PM, Tim Houseman wrote: Is it possible for footers to only be attached once? I am hosting a legal mailing list and their footer is quite long. We recently updated to Mailman 3 and the list has become more active as a result but in that a

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-09 Thread Dmitri Maziuk
On 2/9/24 12:21, Mark Sapiro wrote: ... You could try putting a `-- ` line at the beginning of the footer to make it look like a signature. At least some MUAs do not include signatures in quoted material in replies. However if you have a signature and a footer, both delimited with "-- \n", wh

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 2/8/24 15:24, Tim Houseman wrote: Is it possible for footers to only be attached once? I am hosting a legal mailing list and their footer is quite long. We recently updated to Mailman 3 and the list has become more active as a result but in that activity the users have noticed that the foot

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

2024-02-09 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 2/8/2024 3:24 PM, Tim Houseman wrote: Is it possible for footers to only be attached once? I am hosting a legal mailing list and their footer is quite long. We recently updated to Mailman 3 and the list has become more active as a result but in that activity the users have noticed that the foo