Re: [mailop] What a drag it is sending DMARC reports

2021-12-26 Thread Ángel via mailop
On 2021-12-23 at 21:02 -0700, Dave Warren via mailop wrote: > Even just verifying a phone number adds a real world cost to > switching identities which makes blocking far more effective. There is certainly a cost for casual users wishing to switch identities. Both for wannabe trolls & spammers and

Re: [mailop] What a drag it is sending DMARC reports

2021-12-26 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 02:44:35 +0100, Ángel via mailop wrote: >I wonder however if that's still the case for "professional" spammers, >as I expect they would be able to buy phone numbers more easily and >cheap than common users. What is this 'buy' of which you speak? Phone numbers are composed o

Re: [mailop] What a drag it is sending DMARC reports

2021-12-26 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Michael Rathbun via mailop said: >On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 02:44:35 +0100, Ángel via mailop >wrote: > >>I wonder however if that's still the case for "professional" spammers, >>as I expect they would be able to buy phone numbers more easily and >>cheap than common users. > >What is thi

Re: [mailop] What a drag it is sending DMARC reports

2021-12-26 Thread Dave Warren via mailop
On 2021-12-26 19:23, Michael Rathbun via mailop wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 02:44:35 +0100, Ángel via mailop wrote: I wonder however if that's still the case for "professional" spammers, as I expect they would be able to buy phone numbers more easily and cheap than common users. What is this

Re: [mailop] What a drag it is sending DMARC reports

2021-12-26 Thread Dave Warren via mailop
On 2021-12-26 18:44, Ángel via mailop wrote: On 2021-12-23 at 21:02 -0700, Dave Warren via mailop wrote: Even just verifying a phone number adds a real world cost to switching identities which makes blocking far more effective. There is certainly a cost for casual users wishing to switch ident

Re: [mailop] What a drag it is sending DMARC reports

2021-12-26 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On 26 Dec 2021 21:39:36 -0500, "John Levine" wrote: >Last time I checked Gmail sends you an SMS with a code you need to provide to >register a new account. Ah, that. Obtaining a phone is not difficult nor will the expense exceed zero in a number of cases (such as my wife's recent adventure with

Re: [mailop] What a drag it is sending DMARC reports

2021-12-26 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 21:31:02 -0700, Dave Warren via mailop wrote: >Many/most centralized communication systems require phone number >verification/validation (SMS or voice, typically) to activate a new >account. Even when multiple accounts can be activated using a single >phone number they can