Re: [mailop] Gmail not accepting the spam they sent themselves

On 04.11.2024 20:42, Bill Cole via mailop wrote: [...] This has been a problem for 3 decades. Some sales flack at Microsoft said "Any idiot can be a postmaster with Exchange!" and it was as if job descriptions for mail admins started adding "idiot" as a mandatory qualification. :-D :-/ :-(

Re: [mailop] Gmail not accepting the spam they sent themselves

On 04.11.2024 14:52, Bill Cole via mailop wrote: On 2024-11-04 at 04:15:03 UTC-0500 (Mon, 4 Nov 2024 10:15:03 +0100) Carsten Schiefner via mailop is rumored to have said: However, my perception rather is that e.g. the notion of a "postmaster address" is unknown to quite a

Re: [mailop] Gmail not accepting the spam they sent themselves

Hi Tapio, On 04.11.2024 06:53, Tapio Peltonen via mailop wrote: On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 at 10:42, Carsten Schiefner via mailop wrote: On 03.11.2024 09:12, Tapio Peltonen via mailop wrote: xyz is the only tld I block totally, there was just too much spam coming from xyz domains and I've y

Re: [mailop] Gmail not accepting the spam they sent themselves

Sebastian - > Am 03.11.2024 um 13:18 schrieb Sebastian Nielsen via mailop > : > > […] > > So sad. ICANN should have been required some enforcement of spam fighting > before approving a gTLD operator, and also monitor so a gTLD operator > actually takes action against spam. so this seems to b

Re: [mailop] Gmail not accepting the spam they sent themselves

On 03.11.2024 09:12, Tapio Peltonen via mailop wrote: xyz is the only tld I block totally, there was just too much spam coming from xyz domains and I've yet to see a legitimate message from those. Which you never will, as you have blocked the entire TLD! ;-D

Re: [mailop] Gmail not accepting the spam they sent themselves

Sebastian & all - two character TLDs are always country code TLDs („ccTLDs“) and never generic TLDs („gTLDs“), maintained and organized in the ICANN framework. Besides that: Why do you block only .berlin, but not some or even all of the other gTLDs representing cities or regions? Even more, I

Re: [mailop] IDNA domain with ß

> Am 05.10.2024 um 15:16 schrieb Slavko via mailop : > > […] > > But, when i think about it now, IMO fully operational testing domain > can be usefull for many of users/devs, something as example.com > is, but with names where people can test IDNA processing, especially > domain with ß, in case

Re: [mailop] IDNA domain with ß

Hi Slavko, On 05.10.2024 11:37, Slavko via mailop wrote: [...] I hope, that someone will respond with real domain, something as großmarket.de or so, i don't speak German, nor meet any German (nor Greece) IDNA domain yet... would a specifically registered Umlaut-Domain be helpful. E.g., a ful

Re: [mailop] eu tld have one ipv6 addr not listen to udp

Benny - On 07.05.2024 20:12, Benny Pedersen via mailop wrote: eu zone: The server(s) were not responsive to queries over UDP. (2001:978:2:1::93:2) why is it not resolved ? I fail to see any mail ops related issue with this. Or don't I and there simply isn't any? Best, -C.

Re: [mailop] Off-Topic - VMWare ESXI 7.0

On 16.04.2024 16:06, Kevin A. McGrail via mailop wrote: As the original poster, I wanted to say thanks.  Based on the dozen or so replies so far, I clearly struck a nerve.  I'm reading all the replies with great interest. Even without having any of your current itches, Kevin, I am having a cl

Re: [mailop] Hotmail complains about their own mail

Hi Thomas, > Am 16.12.2023 um 10:34 schrieb Thomas Walter via mailop : > > Hey guys, > > this was new: > > 1. Hotmail user sends delivery service phishing email. > 2. Our server bounces with 550 5.1.1 User doesn't exist. > 3. User marks non-delivery mail as Junk? > 4. Hotmail sends complaint a

Re: [mailop] Microsoft rejecting their own headers

Maybe they have just started eating their own dog food V2.0 at MS? ;-> SCNR. Best, -C. > Am 15.12.2023 um 11:37 schrieb Laurent S. via mailop : > > It seems Microsoft made very recently a change. Since then, we get a > whole bunch of reject with this message: > >> 554 5.6.211 Invalid MIME C

Re: [mailop] 451-Reject due to policy restrictions from web.de and gmx.de

Morning, Andreas & all - I can't confirm this: the sending server hasn't DKIM yet deployed, but a test email to my gmx.net account nonetheless went through fine. Best, -C. -- Von meiner Hängematte aus gesendet. -Original Message- From: Andreas via mailop To: mailop@mailop.org Sent:

Re: [mailop] Bounces

One could possibly argue in addition that sending the same email three times - where the tiny differences only come clear after close inspection - might not help lifting some initial hesitancy. Even more so when in combination with the above, they are sent to a random set of list related addres

Re: [mailop] Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

Hi Andrew, > Am 11.11.2023 um 14:25 schrieb Andrew C Aitchison via mailop > : > > […] > > I guess we need to look at ClientID > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-storey-smtp-client-id/ (SMTP) > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yu-imap-client-id/ (IMAP) > and OAuthBearer RFC7628 > to

[mailop] Probably OT: privacy respecting mail app for Android

All - > Am 11.11.2023 um 12:43 schrieb Bjoern Franke via mailop : > > […] > > This seems to be not restricted to iOS apps. Recently I tried "Blue Mail" on > Android and after logging in a contabo box connected to my IMAP server. Even > after uninstalling the app, the connection stayed, so I c

Re: [mailop] Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

park app. Thanks & best, -C. Op vrijdag 10 november 2023 om 16:54, schreef Carsten Schiefner via mailop : Folks, sort of triggered by Benoit's recent and absolutely spot-hitting rant about Microsoft's inability resp. unwillingness to appropriately deal with sp

Re: [mailop] Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

Hi Andrea & all - On 10.11.2023 18:08, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote: Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook https://www.heise.de/news/Microsoft-lays-hands-on-login-data-Beware-of-the-new-Outlook-9358925.html with you.   ...  ... So, your account got hacked and you

[mailop] Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

Folks, sort of triggered by Benoit's recent and absolutely spot-hitting rant about Microsoft's inability resp. unwillingness to appropriately deal with spam complaints, I thought I should share this article: Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook https://www.heise.de/ne

Re: [mailop] Zero-day RCE for exim - whacky stats?

On 30.09.2023 10:35, Carsten Schiefner via mailop wrote: [...] But would you happen to have any more details wrt. the withholding and the 50%? [Link to https://seclists.org/oss-sec/2023/q3/254] Thanks, Simon & Andrew! ___ mailop mailing

Re: [mailop] Zero-day RCE for exim - whacky stats?

Hi Simon, On 30.09.2023 10:18, Simon Arlott via mailop wrote: On 30/09/2023 08:50, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote: I see that there is an Exim release candidate out on test at the moment https://lists.exim.org/lurker/message/20230926.174111.cb403675.en.html but know nothing about wheth

Re: [mailop] Legit-looking mail to the wrong address with no unsubscribe

Hi David, On 25.08.2023 13:54, David Conrad wrote: Even if the RBC customer were in the EU, I think the challenge would be that he (safe guess given the email address chosen) wouldn’t know and/or be bothered to file a complaint. Whoever he is, he provided an email address years ago and hasn’t

Re: [mailop] Legit-looking mail to the wrong address with no unsubscribe

David & all - the EU's GDPR wrt. Information Security and PII Protection luckily hands a quite sharp sword to consumers: the fines for offenders are, well..., "fine". If the real recipient of RBC's communication you are getting instead of her or him would be domiciled in EU territories (-> F

Re: [mailop] Google Groups considered as spam by Gmail

ssage- From: mailop On Behalf Of Carsten Schiefner via mailop Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 8:26 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Google Groups considered as spam by Gmail On 15.08.2023 13:21, Bjoern Franke via mailop wrote: I subscribed to some bigbluebutton related Google Groups

Re: [mailop] Google Groups considered as spam by Gmail

On 15.08.2023 13:21, Bjoern Franke via mailop wrote: I subscribed to some bigbluebutton related Google Groups some time ago. In the beginning of June, something must have been changed at Gmail. Every mail sent by these groups since then have been considered as spam by Gmail - those mails had on

[mailop] Auto-forwarding emails as attachments

Hans-Martin & all - On 13.07.2023 11:00, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: Has anyone on this list tried forwarding (e.g. for ex-employees) via attachment? The original message would be kept intact, while the outer message clearly originates with the forwarding agent who may even add a huma

Re: [mailop] Guide for setting up a mail server ?

Home - maddy https://maddy.email/ -- Von meiner Hängematte aus gesendet. -Original Message- From: "Taavi Eomäe via mailop" To: John Levine , mailop@mailop.org Sent: Mo., 10 Juli 2023 10:12 Subject: Re: [mailop] Guide for setting up a mail server ? Instead of struggling with Postfix, Op

Re: [mailop] SPF +all considered harmful

Good point - thanks for highlighting this, Hans-Martin! > Am 08.07.2023 um 09:28 schrieb Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop > : > >  > Most likely none of you would consider adding +all to an SPF record a smart > move, here's another reason why you shouldn't do it: > > Google cloud services are be

Re: [mailop] greylisting

Hi N.N. - On 24.06.2023 21:57, ml+mailop--- via mailop wrote: On 6/23/2023 9:13 PM, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: What if we just got to the heart of the matter and admitted that greylisting is useless 2023? It isn't. (it works fairly well for the way I'm using it...) No doubts. The questi

Re: [mailop] SendGrid is deleting your mail

Hi, Luke (& all) - how about elaborating a bit further on the whats and whys of your setup? Because at first sight it is indeed a bit hard to understand why SendGrid may not be in a position to follow the RFCs and the thereof derived and sort of well-established practices of handling server res

Re: [mailop] PSL: SOA record per subdomain required?

Please ignore the below - I haven’t been aware that the list is split into two sections.And I have looked at the first one only - my apologies!Am 07.05.2023 um 23:01 schrieb Carsten Schiefner :Hi John,Am 07.05.2023 um 20:02 schrieb John Levine via mailop :[…]The same thing applies to all of these

Re: [mailop] PSL: SOA record per subdomain required?

Please ignore the below - I haven’t been aware that the list is split into two sections.And I have looked at the first one only - my apologies!Am 07.05.2023 um 23:01 schrieb Carsten Schiefner :Hi John,Am 07.05.2023 um 20:02 schrieb John Levine via mailop :[…]The same thing applies to all of these

Re: [mailop] Yahoo: SOA record per subdomain required?!

So, at least for the time being, it appears that the Y! universe handle this in a non-deterministic manner. Lovely. On 07.05.2023 11:57, Ken Peng via mailop wrote: May 7, 2023 at 2:17 PM, "Matt Palmer via mailop" wrote: [...] It's deliberate, and documented: https://senders.yahooinc.com/s

Re: [mailop] ab...@microsoft.com => Mailbox full

And whatever is being reported via this form will probably be internally sent to . |-) -- Von meiner Hängematte aus gesendet. -Original Message- From: Mark Foster via mailop To: Benoit Panizzon Cc: mailop@mailop.org Sent: Sa., 22 Apr. 2023 7:28 Subject: Re: [mailop] ab...@microsoft.c

Re: [mailop] Compromised email account trends

Sebastian & all - On 22.02.2023 01:51, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote: Didn't get steve's mail for some reason (guess it was because i forgot to renew exim tls cert, but its renewed now), but replying to it here. I have also noticed that: this particular email did not pop into my inbox ei

Re: [mailop] Cyren

All - for those amongst you who have no real clue what Matthew's email is about, please be referred to: Cyren Announces Global Reduction in Force; Liquidity Challenges https://ir.cyren.com/websites/cyren/English/5015/press-release.html?airportNewsID=631c3a77-555f-4a78-be5b-ec30c5cdaaac Best,

Re: [mailop] gmail putting most messages into Spam

Thanks, Jarland - excellent pointer! -Original Message- From: Jarland Donnell via mailop To: Mailop Sent: Mi., 18 Jan. 2023 0:31 Subject: Re: [mailop] gmail putting most messages into Spam [...] My first instinct in your position would be to use something like mail-tester.com to get

Re: [mailop] T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Grant & all - if it‘s a .de domain name one does not need a privacy service any longer since 2018(?) as the GDPR (or its interpretation) mandates that holder data must not be available via WHOIS to the general public. I would not be surprised if that‘d hold true for all ccTLDs where the GDPR is

Re: [mailop] T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Having read up the entire thread now, I wonder if this issue might be worth raising with Germany‘s federal regulator for (inter alia) postal and telco services, BNetzA. I wonder what would happen if the owner of a 20-storey apartment building would only allow properly accredited - according to

Re: [mailop] The oligopoly has won.

On 13.09.2022 07:57, Eduardo Diaz Comellas via mailop wrote: [...] After investigation, several IPs used by gmail to send the email were blacklisted. I had a tough time explaining to the customer that it was gmail's fault to still use this IPs to send their email. Gmail never acknowledged the

Re: [mailop] EC certs in MTA - MTA TLS

Thanks, Slavko - truly appreciated! On 23.08.2022 16:17, Slavko via mailop wrote: Dňa Tue, 23 Aug 2022 12:33:47 +0200 Carsten Schiefner via mailop napísal: would you mind reporting back then and to share that particular exim config snippet that does the trick? No problem ;-) It is really

Re: [mailop] EC certs in MTA - MTA TLS

Hi Slavko, On 23.08.2022 09:41, Slavko via mailop wrote: Dňa Mon, 22 Aug 2022 19:05:27 -0500 Chris Adams via mailop napísal: Postfix's TLS_README also says it supports multiple server cert types, determining which to use based on the negotiated ciphersuite. Exim declares that it supports th

Re: [mailop] What to do with a look-alike domain used in phishing

Thomas, shall we talk this through out of band - and you may post a summary later on, if you wish? Best, -C. -- Von meiner Hängematte aus gesendet. -Original Message- From: Tobias Fiebig via mailop To: mailop@mailop.org Sent: Mo., 18 Juli 2022 10:45 Subject: [mailop] What to do with

Re: [mailop] Paper on email delivery/standards adoption

Thanks, Tobias, fo sharing! All the best, -C. -- Von meiner Hängematte aus gesendet. -Original Message- From: Tobias Fiebig via mailop To: mailop@mailop.org Sent: Mo., 13 Juni 2022 22:35 Subject: [mailop] Paper on email delivery/standards adoption Heho, Quiet some time ago i asked th

Re: [mailop] Contact at Contabo?

Morning, Hans-Martin - On 31.05.2022 07:26, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: does anybody have a working contact at Contabo? Mail to abuse@ does not seem to have an effect. last time I have been in touch with them as their customer, it took them four working days to get back to me, althou

Re: [mailop] Kirk MacDonald sucht freenet.de email abuse contact

All - > Am 26.02.2022 um 07:24 schrieb Carsten Schiefner via mailop > : > > Danke, Martin - habe ich mal so an Kirk durchgereicht. apologies for my above answer in German: I haven’t realized that Martin had changed mailing lists from DENOG’s to this one in the course of his a

Re: [mailop] Kirk MacDonald sucht freenet.de email abuse contact

Danke, Martin - habe ich mal so an Kirk durchgereicht. -- Von meiner Hängematte aus gesendet. -Original Message- From: Martin Moutarde To: Carsten Schiefner Cc: mailop@mailop.org Sent: Fr., 25 Feb. 2022 23:52 Subject: Re: Kirk MacDonald sucht freenet.de email abuse contact Just fou

Re: [mailop] Google considers DMARC reports to be unsolicited mail :(

"that *THIS* message is likely unsolicited mail" (my emphasis): IMHO this sort of leads to a message-based interpretation rather than a system-based one, Patrick. -- Von meiner Hängematte aus gesendet. -Original Message- From: Patrick Ben Koetter via mailop To: mailop@mailop.org Sent:

Re: [mailop] Musings on Mail Service Operators

On 02.02.2022 11:20, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Dnia 2.02.2022 o godz. 10:47:33 Carsten Schiefner via mailop pisze: Having now also read Michael's call for O365 assistance, I start to earnestly wonder when folks are tired enough of having put their email fate into the hands of a few

[mailop] Musings on Mail Service Operators

Having now also read Michael's call for O365 assistance, I start to earnestly wonder when folks are tired enough of having put their email fate into the hands of a few mega-large Mail Service Operators with kafkaesque and fully intransparent processes and instead will attempt to regain knowledg

Re: [mailop] [Admin note] re spam filters

On 25.01.2022 13:56, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: 25. Januar 2022 10:32, "Graeme Fowler via mailop" > schrieb: Morning (afternoon, evening, night!) everyone Over the last couple of weeks an increasing number of

Re: [mailop] [Admin note] re spam filters

Graeme & all - if it wouldn't be this seriously concerning, a note of such content on a mailing list where one of the main purposes is to unblock mail blockages could be considered quite funny... Best, -C. On 25.01.2022 10:32, Graeme Fowler via mailop wrote: Morning (afternoon, eve

[mailop] RP RRs

Thanks, John - one indeed can get smarter every day; there is still enough stuff out there to become aware and to learn! ;-) Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [mailop] What am I supposed to do with abuse complaints on legit mail? Date: 17 Jan 2022 14:09:55 -0500 From: John Levin

Re: [mailop] blocked by microsoft

That's true as well, Jay - what can I say... On 05.01.2022 19:42, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: > On 1/5/22 07:03, Carsten Schiefner via mailop wrote: >> How about registering a Hotmail account for this purpose? >> >> And if you play it via its web GUI, I’m sure you’

Re: [mailop] blocked by microsoft

How about registering a Hotmail account for this purpose? And if you play it via its web GUI, I’m sure you’d get through. Best, -C. > Am 05.01.2022 um 15:41 schrieb Mary via mailop : > >  > Thank you all for your responses regarding the block. > > Unfortunately, the Microsoft people who got

Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Bizarre GDPR/CCPA scam spam from Princeton researchers)

Greg - On 22.12.2021 16:58, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote: On 12/22/21 2:27 AM, Raymond Dijkxhoorn via mailop wrote: Yes they do communicate but they are now sugesting to spam everybody once more with some explanation. ... I wonder if they will learn anything if they see a non-trivial number

Re: [mailop] Paging GMX mail admins: issues with automatic mail forwards

Thanks, Tobias, for your patient advise to get this sorted out! Seasonal greetings, -C. On 01.12.2021 13:02, Tobias Herkula via mailop wrote: Replied off list. / Tobias Herkula (Web.de|GMX|Mail.com) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: mailop Im Auftrag von Carsten Schiefner via

[mailop] Paging GMX mail admins: issues with automatic mail forwards

All - could a GMX mail admin please be in touch with me, please? Or point me to such a person? The issue in short: automatic mail forwarding sporadically fails from GMX mail-out servers with claims that "multiple delivery attempts failed" since the beginning of November. Yet, grey listing i