Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-11 Thread Gellner, Oliver via mailop
On 09.02.2024 at 22:19 Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: Am 09.02.24 um 16:20 schrieb Gellner, Oliver via mailop: A not really serious reply: I'm interested to learn how I can get amused by looking at XML data, this would greatly improve my professional life. Until now I have been more in

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-09 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop said: >This is mostly a matter of tooling, XML is not fit for human consumption. >Being a software developer, I wrote my own >tools to parse and present DMARC reports which are not perfect but ok for my >purposes. I'm not sure I could find

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-09 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 09.02.24 um 16:20 schrieb Gellner, Oliver via mailop: A not really serious reply: I'm interested to learn how I can get amused by looking at XML data, this would greatly improve my professional life. Until now I have been more in the state of wanting to jump out the window when I see DMARC

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-09 Thread Gellner, Oliver via mailop
On 07.02.2024 at 18:17 John Levine via mailop wrote > You might as well publish a p=none DMARC record anyway so you can collect the > reports. Some of them can be quite amusing. A not really serious reply: I'm interested to learn how I can get amused by looking at XML data, this would greatly

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-08 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
> On 08.02.24 05:48, John Covici via mailop wrote: > >I have sendmail set up for dkim, I don't see anywhere where you need > >anything for dmarc. Right now the opendmarc.conf is just what comes > >when you install. > > DMARC on domain means setting DNS record in it. Fortunately, that's

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via mailop
On 08.02.24 05:48, John Covici via mailop wrote: I have sendmail set up for dkim, I don't see anywhere where you need anything for dmarc. Right now the opendmarc.conf is just what comes when you install. DMARC on domain means setting DNS record in it. In addition to SPF and DKIM provides

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-08 Thread John Covici via mailop
I have sendmail set up for dkim, I don't see anywhere where you need anything for dmarc. Right now the opendmarc.conf is just what comes when you install. On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 13:07:25 -0500, Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop wrote: > > What's in the configuration file now? If you

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 4:55AM Andreas S. Kerber via mailop > wrote: > > > Am Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 02:20:25PM +0100 schrieb Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop: > > > For outgoing, Google requires that you have DMARC record set up. So if > > you > > > are sending anything to Google, you need that. > > > >

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
What's in the configuration file now? If you could share what the settings are (with comments stripped out and any sensitive information removed -- you'll need to manually inspect for any passwords, etc., that you don't want to reveal and redact them). Do you have the milter

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Royce Williams via mailop said: >Unfortunately, this is not correct, despite the official documentation. >There are multiple reports on Reddit and other places of people getting the >explicit "authentication required" SMTP response at much lower volumes. You definitely will if

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread John Levine via mailop
According to Bill Cole via mailop : >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >On 2024-02-07 at 05:40:50 UTC-0500 (Wed, 7 Feb 2024 12:40:50 +0200) >Taavi Eomäe via mailop >is rumored to have said: > >[Snip. Quoting Michael P.] >>> Unless you are a big budget email sender, don't stress to much.  Maybe >>>

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread Andreas S. Kerber via mailop
Am Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 06:41:48AM -0900 schrieb Royce Williams via mailop: > There are multiple reports on Reddit and other places of people getting the > explicit "authentication required" SMTP response at much lower volumes. > I've also experienced it directly myself, on domains that I directly

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread Royce Williams via mailop
On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 4:55 AM Andreas S. Kerber via mailop wrote: > Am Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 02:20:25PM +0100 schrieb Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop: > > For outgoing, Google requires that you have DMARC record set up. So if > you > > are sending anything to Google, you need that. > > This only applies

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2024-02-07 at 05:40:50 UTC-0500 (Wed, 7 Feb 2024 12:40:50 +0200) Taavi Eomäe via mailop is rumored to have said: [Snip. Quoting Michael P.] >> Unless you are a big budget email sender, don't stress to much.  Maybe >> tomorrow we will need something like DMARC, but thankfully not yet today. >

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 7.02.2024 o godz. 14:41:02 Andreas S. Kerber via mailop pisze: > > This only applies if your sending more than 5000 messages per day. That is a "MUST" in RFC sense ;), because otherwise they reject mails from you. But if you read their sender guidelines, they say since long ago (long

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread Andreas S. Kerber via mailop
Am Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 02:20:25PM +0100 schrieb Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop: > For outgoing, Google requires that you have DMARC record set up. So if you > are sending anything to Google, you need that. This only applies if your sending more than 5000 messages per day. Most smaller senders are

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread Thomas Walter via mailop
On 07.02.24 14:20, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: For outgoing, Google requires that you have DMARC record set up. So if you are sending anything to Google, you need that. "If you send 5,000 messages a day or more..." Regards, Thomas Walter -- Thomas Walter Datenverarbeitungszentrale FH

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 6.02.2024 o godz. 15:13:47 Michael Peddemors via mailop pisze: > Some days.. it's like F* DMARC.. hehehe.. > > Anything that created a multi-million dollar industry of consultants > on how to set up DMARC, well.. email should NOT be that difficult.. > > I still remember when email

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread Taavi Eomäe via mailop
Anything that created a multi-million dollar industry of consultants on how to set up DMARC, well.. email should NOT be that difficult.. If you use even a relatively modern email stack then it's quite trivial through rspamd for example. Some have it (and more) even built-in, like Stalwart or

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread John Covici via mailop
OK, thanks. I did this all because of problems sending to some places managed by Google. On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 18:12:14 -0500, Alan Hodgson via mailop wrote: > > [1 ] > [1.1 ] > On Tue, 2024-02-06 at 17:46 -0500, John Covici via mailop wrote: > > Hi.  I am trying to make sure my mail server is

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-07 Thread John Covici via mailop
Thanks a lot, I am using sendmail as my mta. On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 00:39:41 -0500, Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop wrote: > > Which mail server software and OS are you using? Are you receiving > some error messages (e.g., in syslog)? > > I'm using Postfix on Debian, and

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-06 Thread Odhiambo Washington via mailop
On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 1:58 AM John Covici via mailop wrote: > Hi. I am trying to make sure my mail server is properly > authenticated, and I have spf and dkim set up -- seemingly correctly > -- but I am not sure about dmarc. I have downloaded and installed the > open-dmarc package and I have

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-06 Thread Alan Hodgson via mailop
On Tue, 2024-02-06 at 17:46 -0500, John Covici via mailop wrote: > Hi.  I am trying to make sure my mail server is properly > authenticated, and I have spf and dkim set up -- seemingly > correctly > -- but I am not sure about dmarc.  I have downloaded and installed > the > open-dmarc package and I

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-06 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
Which mail server software and OS are you using? Are you receiving some error messages (e.g., in syslog)? I'm using Postfix on Debian, and I'd be happy to try to help you get things working no matter which software you're using. The OpenDMARC package supports running

Re: [mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-06 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Some days.. it's like F* DMARC.. hehehe.. Anything that created a multi-million dollar industry of consultants on how to set up DMARC, well.. email should NOT be that difficult.. I still remember when email administrators didn't know how to set up DNS correctly.. (oh wait, some still do)

[mailop] problem setting up open-dmarc

2024-02-06 Thread John Covici via mailop
Hi. I am trying to make sure my mail server is properly authenticated, and I have spf and dkim set up -- seemingly correctly -- but I am not sure about dmarc. I have downloaded and installed the open-dmarc package and I have the text record I will have to put in the zone, but I don't know what