VIRGIL: the poet's birthday

1998-10-15 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
In honor of the poet's birthday, and the second anniversary of this discussion group, I submit the following account of Virgil's birth, from the vita attributed to Aelius Donatus: Publius Vergilius Maro was a Mantuan of humble parents, especially with regard to his father: some have reported that

Re: VIRGIL: Roman Difficulty with Latin

1998-10-15 Thread Ed DeHoratius
I was looking for the information on Roman difficulty with Latin to include in the conclusion of a paper on using Latin commentaries in class to make the point that too often Latin is taught only as a literary medium as opposed to a communicative one. Latin commentaries and Romans having difficulty

Re: VIRGIL: Roman Difficulty with Latin

1998-10-15 Thread Greg Farnum
Ed DeHoratius wrote: > > I was looking for the information on Roman difficulty with Latin to include > in the conclusion of a paper on using Latin commentaries in class to make > the point that too often Latin is taught only as a literary medium as > opposed to a communicative one. Latin commentar

Re: VIRGIL: virgil and augustus/result of aeneid

1998-10-15 Thread Jim O'Hara
>At 02:06 PM 10/14/98 -0700, you wrote: >>i am having problems finding information on the relationship between >>augustus and virgil and the affects of the aeneid on the political >>platform of the time. D W-O said: : >On the relationship between poet and patron, you might (if you haven't >already

Re: VIRGIL: the poet's birthday

1998-10-15 Thread M W Hughes
Nice to be reminded. I had a drink in the poet's honour. May I draw attention to an interesting attempt to commemorate V which is found in Norman Davies' 'Europe'? ND comments that V's verses 'sing in inimitable tone, serene, sustained, subtle, sad' and supports this judgement by quoting the f

Re: VIRGIL: wirgil and augustus/result of aeneid

1998-10-15 Thread RANDI C ELDEVIK
Misinformation like this should not go uncorrected on Mantovano, but I can't remain any longer at my desk right now. Would someone like to explain what is wrong here? Thanks, Randi Eldevik On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, KIMBERLY ANN SANTORA wrote: > All I know is that augustus asked him to write it, and I

Re: VIRGIL: virgil and augustus/result of aeneid

1998-10-15 Thread David Wilson-Okamura
At 10:40 AM 10/15/98 -0400, Jim O'Hara wrote: >Not all would agree that Galinsky Augustan Culture 210 is a good place to >"start" on the death of Turnus, since there is not even a hint there that >there that the killing of Turnus might be viewed as more complicated than >simply "a justified act of

Re: VIRGIL: Roman Difficulty with Latin

1998-10-15 Thread SunMil
I would love to read your paper. Please send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Susan Mitchell English Department Florida Atlantic University ---

VIRGIL: Phoenica

1998-10-15 Thread Bill Alto
Hi Just finnished the Aeneid and had a quewstion about the meaning of purple in the book. I know from a Tom Robbins book (Skinny Legs and All- verry good if you haven't read it) that purple is the Phoenican color and they used conch shells as their dye. I've also heard that they were the first i

Re: VIRGIL: Phoenica

1998-10-15 Thread Simon Cauchi
>Just finished the Aeneid and had a question about the meaning of purple >in the book. The purple dye discovered by the Phoenicians, made from the murex, and used for making the purple stripe on the togas of Roman magistrates is one thing. The word "purpureum" in the Latin poets is something else.

Re: VIRGIL: Translations in English

1998-10-15 Thread wangal
Hi everyone, I'm going to read the Aeneid in English for the seond time after having read Fitzgerald's version a few years ago. However, does anyone have a particularly favorite and I would like a justification why? Should Virigl's work be better rendered in prose or verse? Thanks for your much

Re: VIRGIL: virgil and augustus/result of aeneid

1998-10-15 Thread Stephanie Spaulding
The story goes that it was Augustus who was responsible for saving the Virgil's manuscript after he died (the author himself was unhappy with it and wished it to be destroyed). I have a professor who once said that this is the only good thing Augustus ever did. Perhaps an overstatement, but it

Re: VIRGIL: Phoenica

1998-10-15 Thread N.S. Gill
You might want to look at the links I've collected at http://ancienthistory.miningco.com/library/bl/blpunic.htm -N.S. Gill >Just finnished the Aeneid and had a quewstion about the meaning of purple >in the book. I know from a Tom Robbins book (Skinny Legs and All- verry >good if you haven't read