[Marxism] Turkey Softens Law That Jailed Young Kurds

2010-07-30 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == NY Times July 29, 2010 Turkey Softens Law That Jailed Young Kurds By DAN BILEFSKY B

[Marxism] Turkey, America, and Empire's Twilight

2010-06-28 Thread Dennis Brasky
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == > > Turkey, America, and Empire's Twilight > by Conn Hallinan > Foreign Policy in Fo

Re: [Marxism] Turkey, The Kurds and The Gaza Flotilla - A Call For An End To Double Standards

2010-06-21 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Jun 21, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Dennis Brasky wrote: > > ...I don't recall Jack L eve

[Marxism] Turkey, The Kurds and The Gaza Flotilla - A Call For An End To Double Standards

2010-06-20 Thread jollyjack
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Dear Fellow Progressives, Those on the left who have gleefully quoted Turkish Prim

[Marxism] Turkey suspends agreements with Israel

2010-06-17 Thread Fred Feldman
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Turkey Shelves Israeli Cooperation, Considers breaking off Ties; Israel Lobbies in

[Marxism] Turkey close to severing ties with Israel

2010-06-04 Thread Louis Proyect
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[Marxism] Turkey threatens Action on Israel

2010-05-31 Thread Greg McDonald
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Re: [Marxism] Turkey - TEKEL Struggle

2010-01-08 Thread deniz yild
DIRIM   --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Barış Yıldırım wrote: From: Barış Yıldırım Subject: Re: [Marxism] Turkey To: "Deniz Yildirim" Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 1:03 AM == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text whe

Re: [Marxism] Turkey

2010-01-07 Thread Mehmet Bayram
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == You can get labor and social news from mostly Turkey and other places in ME in Engl

Re: [Marxism] Turkey

2010-01-07 Thread Barış Yıldırım
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == They're still waiting for a response to their demands in a park in the very center o

[Marxism] Turkey

2010-01-07 Thread S. Artesian
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Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-23 Thread Pat Byrne
September 2009 12:13 To: Pat Byrne Subject: Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version? Pat, thank you very much for sharing your observations. I think I do not have to add to this much. Just one point Marx and Engels did pay a lot of attention to the issues within a state-owned system. Therefore Engels

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-23 Thread Dogan Gocmen
Pat, thank you very much for sharing your observations. I think I do not have to add to this much. Just one point Marx and Engels did pay a lot of attention to the issues within a state-owned system. Therefore Engels conclusion that it was not the final solution. Pease look at what Marx says about

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-23 Thread Dogan Gocmen
Michael, lets discuss all these issues in Turkey. We will have almost one week, so enough time to exchange the results of our research. I will have the onlie version of Smith's work and correspondence with me. I am looking forward to seeing you in few days in Turkey. -- Dogan Göcmen (http://dog

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-22 Thread Michael Perelman
The context in which Smith approached alienation was when he was discussing the need to have a certain kind of person in the militia. Here he was following his colleague, Adam Ferguson, who was light-years ahead of him. Ferguson also was the chaplain for a very important Scottish military brig

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-22 Thread Pat Byrne
From: marxism-bounces+patbyrneme=hotmail@lists.econ.utah.edu [mailto:marxism-bounces+patbyrneme=hotmail@lists.econ.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Dogan Gocmen Sent: 22 September 2009 11:55 To: Pat Byrne Subject: Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version? Pat, you are raising here en issue that in my view refe

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-22 Thread farmela...@juno.com
...@juno.com Subject: Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version? Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:20:50 +0300 As to alienation issue: it is an issue raised by all classical Scottish philosophers including Adam Smith. However as George Lukacs has shown it became a conservative concept in the 20th century. The concept

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-22 Thread Dogan Gocmen
Pat, you are raising here en issue that in my view refers to a point that is in all theories of socialism, including that of Marx and Engels, most contravercial and at the same time weakest one. However I think this is not a mere issue of theory. The question how to run an economy that is controll

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-22 Thread Pat Byrne
unces+patbyrneme=hotmail@lists.econ.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Dogan Gocmen Sent: 22 September 2009 10:43 To: Pat Byrne Subject: Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version? Pat, can you please say a bit more? Thank you, -- Dogan Göcmen (http://dogangocmen.wordpress.com/) Author of The Adam Smith Pr

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-22 Thread Dogan Gocmen
Pat, can you please say a bit more? Thank you, -- Dogan Göcmen (http://dogangocmen.wordpress.com/) Author of The Adam Smith Problem: Reconciling Human Nature and Society in The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations, I. B. Tauris, London&New York 2007 ___

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-22 Thread Pat Byrne
@lists.econ.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Dogan Gocmen Sent: 22 September 2009 10:21 To: Pat Byrne Subject: Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version? As to alienation issue: it is an issue raised by all classical Scottish philosophers including Adam Smith. However as George Lukacs has shown it became a conservative concept in

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-22 Thread Dogan Gocmen
As to alienation issue: it is an issue raised by all classical Scottish philosophers including Adam Smith. However as George Lukacs has shown it became a conservative concept in the 20th century. The concept the Marxists have to start with is not alienation (no longer). Rather they have to start wi

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-22 Thread Dogan Gocmen
I think the question in relation Smith is not honesty or dishonesty. This is a subjective approach. We should reject the dishonest picture of Adam Smith that has been presented to us by Neoliberlas. Remember that along with Hegel's Smith work is one of the most important source and compenent part o

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread Pat Byrne
ginal Message- From: marxism-bounces+patbyrneme=hotmail@lists.econ.utah.edu [mailto:marxism-bounces+patbyrneme=hotmail@lists.econ.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Perelman Sent: 22 September 2009 04:34 To: Pat Byrne Subject: Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version? On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:58

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread Michael Perelman
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:58:14PM +0300, Pat Byrne wrote: > market', the efficiency of the price system etc.. >Thus the overwhelming > majority of the world's intelligentsia has accepted that despite massive > evidence to the contrary, capitalism is the most effective means of > delivering growth

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread Mehmet Bayram
forces to dominate the relationship.   The question of Islamic capital and extra-economic forces in capitalism may come up during the discussions there.  I am sure you will be in a lively audience.   In solidarity   --- On Mon, 9/21/09, Michael Perelman wrote: From: Michael Perelman Subject:

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread Pat Byrne
otmail@lists.econ.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Perelman Sent: 21 September 2009 23:30 To: Pat Byrne Subject: Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version? I like what you are doing with the medical analogy. I am not sure that the time constraints at the conference will allow me to expand on it. If I

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread Michael Perelman
I like what you are doing with the medical analogy. I am not sure that the time constraints at the conference will allow me to expand on it. If I did, I would go on to the way that capitalist medicine concentrates on the individual relationship, like to economist focuses on the transaction. B

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread S. Artesian
Typos: page 1, 8th line from bottom: mid-20th century [not min-20th] page 5, 9th line from top: the penny press offered an [not and] inexpensive outlet. As for the medical analogy: even the best doctors, thus who wholeheartedly support, and engage their patients, are constrained in the

[Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread michael perelman
Here is the final draft (I believe) of my lecture. First of all, I want to thank all of you who made suggestions and corrections, especially Sartasian and Mehmet. I very much appreciate that sort of help. Further suggestions, of course, are welcome. It is posted at: http://michaelperelman.w