On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, las wrote:
JT wrote:
The "Classic" brand is Circuit City's own brand (i.e. the store brand).
Who is the actual manufacture?
I wouldn't know, i've never bought one. Sorry. I only go in to Circuit
City when they have deals (e.g. a new CD for $7 or 50 CDRs for free)
16, 2001 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: MD: More on CD vs. MD Sound Quality
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"Les@musicmixers" wrote:
NO FLAMES but there are several HDCD's on the market. Most new CW (not my
favorite) are in fact being released this way. They do seem to have a
better sound in my opinion. Have not heard much about the other formats you
mentioned, much less heard any. Quite a
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, las wrote:
I also saw some strange brand (Classic??) of portable CD player
that also played MP3 CDs and had 105 second buffer for $99.00!
The "Classic" brand is Circuit City's own brand (i.e. the store brand).
Josh
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Subject: Re: MD: More on CD vs. MD Sound Quality
I wonder if you were hearing effects of the MD's analog section rather than
problems
with the ATR
From: "las" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One of the fundamental things you have wrong is this 5 to one compression.
It is not compression. If set up correctly 80% of the digital information
on a CD not heard by the human ear. Don't confuse bit wise reduction with
compression.
U...you lost me there
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:58:51 -0600, John Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(based on tests along the lines Francis was
suggesting)
Ah, that was Sherry's suggestion.
Thanks.
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:01:18 +0100, "Francis Auquier"
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According to the Revue du Son (December 1999), some components found in high
end MD decks are similar (or identical) to the ones used in high end CD
players
What was the defination of a high end MD deck?
Thanks.
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:15:13 -0500, las [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No if only they could make a portable MD recorder that was capable of recording
standard
ATRAC and also MP3 files directly from a computer link, and still use plain ordinary
MDs.
Then MD might still have a shot.
Does the
las [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The better the quality of the MD playback equipment and hence the DAC, the
closer to the original CD the MD would sound.
"closer to the original", it goes right into my direction; ATRAC has its own
limits ( and the one you should hear) so you cannot improved it 'in
Using the system you described, the problem with the sound
probably has very
little to do with the MD format. The 530 has crappy converters.
So this may be the reason why my recordings and playbacks with Sony's MZ-R
70 seem so low on quality.
If ATRAC is the same in every machine, the
Newer CD decks also
have the 20 bit (and some with 24 bit) resolution so the analogy on that
issue isn't totally accurate (although I believe all computer burners are
still just 16 bit so still a good point).
The CD, as originally developed by Philips and Sony, only has enough bits
for
* John Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 15 Feb 2001
| So, what player is this ... is there a 'good' one, in this sense, out there
| yet?
Bear in mind that the amplifier driving your headphones (I'm assuming
headphones because you are talking portables here) sucks. Sony headphone
amps are
My recomendation, if you want a very good DAC, is to use an outboard DAC
where all of the
power parameters have been optimized for the best audio performance. The
built in DACs
in many CD/MD decks, while better than portables, are no match for
esoteric, high-end
outboard DACs.
According to
In fact, MD copy
has the following characteristics: obviously less dynamics, very poor bass
and Jazz devil has plenty of it), narrow stereo image, and in general
flatten sound picture.
I wonder if you were hearing effects of the MD's analog section rather than problems
with the ATRAC?
I used
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:06:45 +0100, "Francis Auquier"
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Using the system you described, the problem with the sound
probably has very
little to do with the MD format. The 530 has crappy converters.
So this may be the reason why my recordings and playbacks with Sony's
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:15:13 -0500, las [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So you could probably fit 2 hours or
so of music on an MD. At $1.50, considering the alternatives, that seems like a
pretty
good deal to me.
Considering the alternative of solid state memory, yes. But even considering
the
On 15 Feb 2001 13:30:28 -0500, Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bear in mind that the amplifier driving your headphones (I'm assuming
headphones because you are talking portables here) sucks.
That said, Sharp MS-722 recorder, AirHead amplifier from Headroom, and
Sennheiser HD-600
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I
John Small wrote:
Considering the alternative of solid state memory, yes. But even considering
the writeable media it's excellent. Sure CD-R's are less but one cannot erase
and re-record. Now consder cd-rw's. They are $3 each the least expensive I've
seen at retail (Memerex 3pk at BB)
wow, this story goes endless. Let me tell you my experiences and opinions. I
was doing A/B test some times ago with a friend of mine. We've been doing
recording of the same song, Jazz devil by Barry Adamson. The units were Sony
530 MD, and the rest was nothing special, Akai amp, Sony 330 CD,
Don Capps wrote:
U...you lost me there Larry. ATRAC is indeed lossy compression. A great
deal of data is "thrown away" in order to fit it onto those tiny little
discs.
ATRAC involves loss. But is it not compression per say. To really have done
ATRAC correctly, it should have been
I'm looking for a portable MD player (+/- recorder) with both
LP modes -and- and very good DAC. I think the DAC in my Sony MZ-R50 is holding
back the fidelity of the music (based on tests along the lines Francis was
suggesting).
"Portable" and "very good DAC" are mutually exclusive for
Ivica Petrovic wrote:
wow, this story goes endless. Let me tell you my experiences and opinions. I
was doing A/B test some times ago with a friend of mine. We've been doing
recording of the same song, Jazz devil by Barry Adamson. The units were Sony
530 MD, and the rest was nothing special,
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I've also noticed this with ney recordings,
Timothy Stockman wrote:
The CD, as originally developed by Philips and Sony, only has enough bits
for 16-bit resolution, but Pacific Microsonics came up with a way to hide
4 more bits in the audio to allow 20-bit resolution. Problem is, very few
CDs are recorded this way, so practically
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:43:26 -0500, Timothy Stockman
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My recomendation, if you want a very good DAC, is to use an outboard DAC where all of
the
power parameters have been optimized for the best audio performance. The built in
DACs
in many CD/MD decks, while better
Ivica Petrovic wrote:
"closer to the original", it goes right into my direction; ATRAC has its own
limits ( and the one you should hear) so you cannot improved it 'in general'
by using better DACs and so on.
You are misinterpreting my statement. "closer to the original can mean beyond
the
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:52:28 -0500, las [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is such a shame to see the MD media go down the tubes.
You guys seriously think this is happening? I do not.
-jts Arlington, TX
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Subject: Re: MD: More on CD vs. MD Sound Quality
i've had similar experiences with fairly simple music. on a recording of
solo turkish ney (flute), there are a few moments where there is a very
noticeable squeaky noise high above the instrument. i was surprised, since
flute
i've had similar experiences with fairly simple music. on a recording of
solo turkish ney (flute), there are a few moments where there is a very
noticeable squeaky noise high above the instrument. i was surprised, since
flute is an extremely pure sound, very close to a sine wave. on a recording
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