Re: [MeeGo-dev] issue of enabling accelerometer in sensor framework

2010-06-10 Thread Zhang, Xing Z
thank you your quick reply > > HI Timo: > I am working on enabling our accelerometer in Nokia's sensor > framework. Here are some issues i met: > > 1. hard coding of adaptor name. accelerometer chain and accelerometer hard > codes the adaptor name to > "accelerometer". If all adaptors ha

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How to install packages into meego chroot

2010-06-10 Thread prasanna grande
Hi, I tried by downdling the libhal rpm packages, while i tried installing its showing PolicyKit not explicitly disabled no PolicyKit found.. I have installed Policy kit still its showing same problem.. Please if any one have any idea help me regards Lakshmi On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:40 AM, L

[MeeGo-dev] issue of enabling accelerometer in sensor framework

2010-06-10 Thread Zhang, Xing Z
HI Timo: I am working on enabling our accelerometer in Nokia's sensor framework. Here are some issues i met: 1. hard coding of adaptor name. accelerometer chain and accelerometer hard codes the adaptor name to "accelerometer". If all adaptors have same name, sensord failed to distinguis

Re: [MeeGo-dev] About the MeGoo kernel build system for N900 platform

2010-06-10 Thread Jan-Simon Möller
Am Donnerstag, 10. Juni 2010 10:27:15 schrieb Zhang, Austin: > > So I guess that they are the cross compiler and toolchain for the N900 > > device, > For armv7 ISA We've 2 tree's - armv5 and armv7. > > and they should be installed on a host linux PC.Is my understanding > > correct? And How cou

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How to install packages into meego chroot

2010-06-10 Thread Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata
You may also try smart: http://piscoespecial.blogspot.com/2010/03/chroot-with-smart.html On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Bintian Wang wrote: > Hi, > > It seems Intel just releases this Meego public repo: > http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo > > Bintian > > On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 08:26 +0100, prasanna g

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Shaz
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Ware, Ryan R wrote: > We also need to take into account that this solution needs to work on > non-ARM hardware. ;-) > Non ARM is much more easy because we will be dealing with TPM chip and TXT. Does atom based boards come with TPM. If yes I can start contributi

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Ware, Ryan R
We also need to take into account that this solution needs to work on non-ARM hardware. ;-) Ryan On 6/10/10 9:56 AM, "Shaz" wrote: > Secondly, I do agree that EVM is not very suitable for trustzone but what is > more suitable? In my opinion a single file protected by secure/trusted boot > and

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Compiling MeeGo - Other Platforms

2010-06-10 Thread Robert Rambo
here's a rather crappy video of me booting meego on the 900, launching chrome, and shutting down. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=701yd1IX7iw On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Robert Rambo wrote: > Then you were running some pretty slow OSes before this one :) > > not at all :-) MeeGo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Compiling MeeGo - Other Platforms

2010-06-10 Thread Glen Gray
On 10 Jun 2010, at 16:34, Greg KH wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Robert Rambo wrote: are you saying that MeeGo will be slow on non SSSE3 computers?? that's not the case at all.. of all the OS I've installed on my EeePC 900 (Celeron), MeeGo is by far the fastest running

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Compiling MeeGo - Other Platforms

2010-06-10 Thread Robert Rambo
Then you were running some pretty slow OSes before this one :) not at all :-) MeeGo on the 900 with a Celeron boots in about 9 seconds, Chrome launches in about 3 seconds... navigation in the menus are instantaneous... previously I've ran NBR, 9.10 and recently NBE 10.04.. I've also ra

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Ware, Ryan R
On 6/10/10 12:04 PM, "Shaz" wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Janne Karhunen wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Shaz wrote: >> Do you have in mind a particular use case and risks you wish to protect against? I can take that example to explain how it can be done by our >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Shaz
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Janne Karhunen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Shaz wrote: > > >> Do you have in mind a particular use case and risks you wish to protect > >> against? I can take that example to explain how it can be done by our > >> framework. > > > > Please re-read t

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Compiling MeeGo - Other Platforms

2010-06-10 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 09:17:25PM +0100, Glen Gray wrote: > On 10 Jun 2010, at 16:34, Greg KH wrote: > >On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Robert Rambo wrote: > >>are you saying that MeeGo will be slow on non SSSE3 computers?? > >>that's not > >>the case at all.. of all the OS I've insta

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Shaz wrote: >> Do you have in mind a particular use case and risks you wish to protect >> against? I can take that example to explain how it can be done by our >> framework. > > Please re-read the use-case again ... you have overly simplified it. > Openness betwee

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Shaz
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Elena Reshetova wrote: > Hi, > > Let me try to answer some questions. > > > How can we fit this in TCG MPWG and OMTP TR0/1 specs? > > I prefer to speak about the needed properties/features, rather than about > particular specs unless there is a requirement to sat

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Estimated RAM and Flash sizes

2010-06-10 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:13:52AM -0600, Doug Gibbs wrote: > I have been asked about the minimum size Flash and RAM to use for a MeeGo > based platform we are working on. > > Yes, I know how difficult this question is. It all depends on the number of > features needed. The basics are: > Minimal k

[MeeGo-dev] Estimated RAM and Flash sizes

2010-06-10 Thread Doug Gibbs
I have been asked about the minimum size Flash and RAM to use for a MeeGo based platform we are working on. Yes, I know how difficult this question is. It all depends on the number of features needed. The basics are: Minimal kernel with networking, 802.11 with security, and USB host (MeeGo is the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Shaz
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Janne Karhunen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Shaz wrote: > > >> Task can hold tokens named 'Calendar' and 'Phonebook' for > >> accessing these interfaces. Or, we can drop this even > >> lower by saying Calendar::function and everything else is > >> not

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Compiling MeeGo - Other Platforms

2010-06-10 Thread Greg KH
A: No. Q: Should I include quotations after my reply? http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/on_top On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Robert Rambo wrote: > are you saying that MeeGo will be slow on non SSSE3 computers?? that's not > the case at all.. of all the OS I've installed on my EeePC

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Compiling MeeGo - Other Platforms

2010-06-10 Thread Robert Rambo
are you saying that MeeGo will be slow on non SSSE3 computers?? that's not the case at all.. of all the OS I've installed on my EeePC 900 (Celeron), MeeGo is by far the fastest running.. On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Greg KH wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 03:30:13PM +0100, John Lawman wr

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Shaz wrote: >> Task can hold tokens named 'Calendar' and 'Phonebook' for >> accessing these interfaces. Or, we can drop this even >> lower by saying Calendar::function and everything else is >> not granted for. > > This is where dbus comes in ... right? Well we d

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo kernel source

2010-06-10 Thread Javier Martinez Canillas
> > As learned by people maintaining kernel packages, it works better this > way over the long term (and even the short term).  You have an easy > separation of upstream and added patches and you can remove/add patches > at any place in the stream.  It also makes it much easier to forward > port to

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Compiling MeeGo - Other Platforms

2010-06-10 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 03:30:13PM +0100, John Lawman wrote: > Will including SSSE3 support as part of the minimum requirement is going to > be a limiting factor in the adoption of MeeGo? If you don't, it will be very slow. Try it and see... good luck, greg k-h _

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo kernel source

2010-06-10 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:08:38AM -0400, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: > Hello, > > First of all I want to thank you very much for giving us this great > mobile platform. MeeGo is just amazing! > > I know that the MeeGo kernel process has been a big debate before (I > have read the archives).

[MeeGo-dev] Compiling MeeGo - Other Platforms

2010-06-10 Thread John Lawman
Will including SSSE3 support as part of the minimum requirement is going to be a limiting factor in the adoption of MeeGo? There are many other x86 computers out there that can run Linux-based systems (including 3D acceleration) quite comfortably. So, sure Atom benefits from SSSE3. Does this mean

[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo kernel source

2010-06-10 Thread Javier Martinez Canillas
Hello, First of all I want to thank you very much for giving us this great mobile platform. MeeGo is just amazing! I know that the MeeGo kernel process has been a big debate before (I have read the archives). I cloned the kernel-source tree and saw that it only contains patches against different

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Separate device specific repositories...

2010-06-10 Thread Robert MARKLUND
This also makes it more clear what's MeeGo and what`s the HW integration layer. But I can guess there will be some issues with OBS structure and project dependencies(circular). Maybe someone with more OBS insight can confirm or reject this. /R > -Original Message- > From: meego-dev-boun

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Shaz
> > Task can hold tokens named 'Calendar' and 'Phonebook' for > accessing these interfaces. Or, we can drop this even > lower by saying Calendar::function and everything else is > not granted for. > > This is where dbus comes in ... right? And now I am loosing what LSM and rbac does here :) > > >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Shaz wrote: >> >> Effective bits in access control are quite simple and similar to >> >> SMACK. Check the linux-security-module discussion for starters. >> >> The 'real' difference between smack and this is that we support >> >> multiple task labels and the fact t

Re: [MeeGo-dev] When will ospm be moved to meego from moblin?

2010-06-10 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 6/10/2010 2:29 AM, chenmeng wrote: hello all: I am interesting about power managerment of meego. Will meego use ospm which was used by moblin? Why is ospm not included in meego releases of 0.9& 1.0? Can anyone is working on power managerment of meego give me some infomation,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Shaz
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Janne Karhunen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Shaz wrote: > > >> Effective bits in access control are quite simple and similar to > >> SMACK. Check the linux-security-module discussion for starters. > >> The 'real' difference between smack and this is t

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > FYI, a number of patches were posted to the D-Bus mailing list a couple of > days ago. > > As expected, the mailing list's reaction was "use PolKit"... Duh, that was just Pekka going solo and nothing more serious than that.. -- // Ja

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Release support policy ?

2010-06-10 Thread Alexander Kanevskiy
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 14:52, Glen Gray wrote: > Hey Guys, > > What's the policy on supporting MeeGo releases ? Are we looking at an 18 > month lifespan or is it simply, stick to the latest ? Maintenance policy is explained at http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Release_Creation#Maintenance_phase --

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Shaz wrote: >> Effective bits in access control are quite simple and similar to >> SMACK. Check the linux-security-module discussion for starters. >> The 'real' difference between smack and this is that we support >> multiple task labels and the fact that we don't

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Release support policy ?

2010-06-10 Thread Glen Gray
Carsten kindly pointed me to http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Release_Creation On 10 Jun 2010, at 12:52, Glen Gray wrote: > Hey Guys, > > What's the policy on supporting MeeGo releases ? Are we looking at an 18 > month lifespan or is it simply, stick to the latest ? > > Thanks in advance, > -- > G

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Shaz
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Shaz wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Janne Karhunen > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Greg KH wrote: >> >> >> MeeGo security architecture will be base on Maemo6 (Harmattan) model >> >> and codebase. More details about that: >> >> >> >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Shaz
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Janne Karhunen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Greg KH wrote: > > >> MeeGo security architecture will be base on Maemo6 (Harmattan) model > >> and codebase. More details about that: > >> > >> http://fosdem.org/2010/schedule/events/maemo > >> > >> Nokia

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Greg KH wrote: >> MeeGo security architecture will be base on Maemo6 (Harmattan) model >> and codebase. More details about that: >> >> http://fosdem.org/2010/schedule/events/maemo >> >> Nokia is open sourcing the security componets starting now. > > "now"?  Cool,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Release support policy ?

2010-06-10 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Glen Gray wrote: > What's the policy on supporting MeeGo releases ? Are we looking at an 18 > month lifespan or is it simply, stick to the latest ? My opinion (which doesn't count much on this issue) is that support is up to distributors. Nokia will be providing support for MeeGo based Nokia

[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Release support policy ?

2010-06-10 Thread Glen Gray
Hey Guys, What's the policy on supporting MeeGo releases ? Are we looking at an 18 month lifespan or is it simply, stick to the latest ? Thanks in advance, -- Glen Gray ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Quinta-feira 10 Junho 2010, às 12:59:13, Tomas Frydrych escreveu: > > As expected, the mailing list's reaction was "use PolKit"... > > I wonder, why was it expected ? Well, it was expected to me. A few months ago, I was contacted about some questions on modifying D-Bus, which looked like a se

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Security architecture

2010-06-10 Thread Tomas Frydrych
Hi, On 09/06/10 22:38, Thiago Macieira wrote: > FYI, a number of patches were posted to the D-Bus mailing list a > couple of days ago. > > As expected, the mailing list's reaction was "use PolKit"... I wonder, why was it expected ? Looking through the dbus archive, the mailing list reaction to

[MeeGo-dev] Separate device specific repositories...

2010-06-10 Thread Marko Saukko
Hi, I want to raise discussion about the repositories, especially the structure of Core repository. If I have understood correctly the core repository contains the main parts of the MeeGo which create the base of MeeGo OS for all of the devices/architectures. In case of Nokia N900 there are alrea

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 hardware adaptation team sync meeting Thursday 9 June 9.00 EEST (8.00 CEST, 6.00 UTC, wednesday 23.00 PDT).

2010-06-10 Thread Carsten Munk
2010/6/9 Carsten Munk : > Seems like we forgot to announce this one, but: > > We're going to be having a N900 hardware > adaptation team sync meeting in #meego-meeting on irc.freenode.net > tomorrow Thursday 9 June 9.00 EEST (8.00 CEST, 6.00 UTC, wednesday 23.00 PDT). > > Feel free to join and part

[MeeGo-dev] When will ospm be moved to meego from moblin?

2010-06-10 Thread chenmeng
hello all: I am interesting about power managerment of meego. Will meego use ospm which was used by moblin? Why is ospm not included in meego releases of 0.9 & 1.0? Can anyone is working on power managerment of meego give me some infomation, URL etc.? thanks chenmeng __

[MeeGo-dev] About Meego IM - IRC.

2010-06-10 Thread Ben Chou
Dear meego-dev , I have a question about how to establish an IRC connection via IM(Empathy). In my experience , I use xchat before. After I connect to IRC network , it will popup a window to input a specific channel. But base on my meego testing , the IRC can not pop up the enter channel windo

[MeeGo-dev] Regarding particaiptation in developement

2010-06-10 Thread Veerabhadra Sheelavant
Hello, I would like to contribute to MeeGo project as Software developer I have a previous experience in Software development about 4 years (it includes development for embedded system and application development for desktops). I use C/C++/GtK/Qt. I have development exposure on Inte

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Nokia N900 Linux kernel patches

2010-06-10 Thread Denis Mingulov
Hi, On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Sylvia Liu wrote: > Sorry, I cannot use git protocol. Only http is supported because of > the proxy rules. > So, is that possible to make the http way working? Git over http works perfectly on Gitorious. I just tried: git clone http://git.gitorious.org/nokia

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How to install packages into meego chroot

2010-06-10 Thread Bintian Wang
Hi, It seems Intel just releases this Meego public repo: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo Bintian On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 08:26 +0100, prasanna grande wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for info > While i am trying to install libhal its showing "No package > libhal-devel available" > please let me know wheth

Re: [MeeGo-dev] About the MeGoo kernel build system for N900 platform

2010-06-10 Thread Zhang, Austin
> So I guess that they are the cross compiler and toolchain for the N900 > device, For armv7 ISA > and they should be installed on a host linux PC.Is my understanding correct? > And How could I install them on my PC, is there any guide about it ? You'd better install them in one meego environme

Re: [MeeGo-dev] About the MeGoo kernel build system for N900 platform

2010-06-10 Thread Ameya Palande
Hi Zheng, I normally use cross compiler from: http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/subscripti...@template=lite Here are the steps to compile kernel using this cross compiler: 1. Extract it (lets say /opt/arm-2010q1) 2. export PATH=$PATH:/opt/arm-2010q1/bin 3. export ARCH=arm; export C

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Nokia N900 Linux kernel patches

2010-06-10 Thread Sylvia Liu
Sorry, I cannot use git protocol. Only http is supported because of the proxy rules. So, is that possible to make the http way working? Thanks! On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Ameya Palande wrote: > Hi Sylvia, > > Instead of using "http" can you try "git" protocol. > git clone git://gitorious.or

[MeeGo-dev] About the MeGoo kernel build system for N900 platform

2010-06-10 Thread Zheng Zhang
Hi, I am doing some research about the MeGoo kernel build system for N900 device, and I have notice that in the repo http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/core/repos/ia32/packages/i586/ I can find some rpm packages following: [ ] cross-armv7l-gcc-4.4.2-2.3.i586.rpm10-

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Nokia N900 Linux kernel patches

2010-06-10 Thread Ameya Palande
Hi Sylvia, Instead of using "http" can you try "git" protocol. git clone git://gitorious.org/nokia-n900-kernel/nokia-n900-kernel.git I just tried it at my local machine, and didn't see any error :) Cheers, Ameya. On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 09:24 +0200, ext Sylvia Liu wrote: > Hi Ameya, > > While tr

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How to install packages into meego chroot

2010-06-10 Thread prasanna grande
Hi, Thanks for info While i am trying to install libhal its showing "No package libhal-devel available" please let me know whether to add any url to repo's On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Bintian Wang wrote: > You can use command "yum install xxx-devel" as root, make sure you have > correct co

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Nokia N900 Linux kernel patches

2010-06-10 Thread Sylvia Liu
Hi Ameya, While try to git the repository from the site you provided, I encountered the following errors. Can you help to check it out? BTW: I can clone other repositories on gitorious. So I think that might be an error from the repo. side. $git clone http://git.gitorious.org/nokia-n900-kernel/n