Re: [MeeGo-dev] Question about browser engine

2010-11-15 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 04:44:57PM +0800, Chen Dai wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question about browser engine. > > Why MeeGo use two different browser engines, Webkit/Chromium for > netbook, Gecko/Fennec for handset? > > Why not use one browser engine for all device? Please read the archives,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How to hide cursor and message when startup & shutdown

2010-11-10 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:49:59AM +0800, Alex Wu wrote: > 2010/11/10 Greg KH > > > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 09:59:40AM +0800, Alex Wu wrote: > > > Sorry, it's plymouth-lite. But if it could add a little bit support on > > > animiation rather than just

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How to hide cursor and message when startup & shutdown

2010-11-09 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 09:59:40AM +0800, Alex Wu wrote: > Sorry, it's plymouth-lite. But if it could add a little bit support on > animiation rather than just static picture, it would be better. That would slow things down, you shouldn't see the static picture very long at all before X takes over

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How to hide cursor and message when startup & shutdown

2010-11-08 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 10:20:31AM -0600, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > > > On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Greg KH wrote: > > >>We are working with customer for the startup & shutdown process. > >> > >>We need to hide cursor and all messages then use plymou

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How to hide cursor and message when startup & shutdown

2010-11-08 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 09:15:24PM +0800, BlueGene wrote: > Hi, > > > > We are working with customer for the startup & shutdown process. > > We need to hide cursor and all messages then use plymouth to display splash. Meego does not use plymouth as the kernel should boot fast enough to not

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Allowing non-subscribers to post on the mailing lists

2010-10-22 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 08:44:43PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > btw for the meego-kernel I really want subscriber only. I want people > > who post patches to get not just the review comments > > on their code, but also on everyone elses code so that they won't

Re: [MeeGo-dev] new draft of MeeGo compliance specification

2010-10-20 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:51:22PM -0600, Wichmann, Mats D wrote: > > There's a fresh draft up, finally: > > http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance#Specification > > > Please comment on this one. Section 5, MeeGo Netbook Specification: You really aren't specifing anything becides the requir

Re: [MeeGo-dev] new draft of MeeGo compliance specification

2010-10-20 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:51:22PM -0600, Wichmann, Mats D wrote: > > There's a fresh draft up, finally: > > http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance#Specification > > > Please comment on this one. Line 188: A compliant system shall use Linux kernel version 2.6.35 or later. Wh

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-10-15 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:21:15AM +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote: > Le vendredi 15 octobre 2010 ?? 00:43 +0300, Felipe Contreras a ??crit : > > > What I'm mostly worried is *why* people felt the need to create > > spin-offs. Maybe we should be thinking about using NetworkManager > > instead of Conn

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-10-14 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 02:49:39PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > Hello Jos, > > Thank you for your email and the proposal to use "DarkRider" instead of > "Smeegol". > >DarkRider, an openSUSE release based on the netbook user interface that > came from the Meego(TM)* project. >* Meego is

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-10-14 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 09:02:35AM -0700, Quim Gil wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 17:40 +0200, ext Greg KH wrote: > > Of course, a "real" cease-and-desist order would have to be filed for > > any of this to be able to be properly discussed, which I think, is the > >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-10-14 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 08:24:47AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 04:16:50PM +0100, Andrew Flegg wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 15:59, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:24:26PM +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > >> > > >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-10-14 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 04:16:50PM +0100, Andrew Flegg wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 15:59, Greg KH wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:24:26PM +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > >> > >> Ok, LF thinks the name Smeegol, while funny and inventive, might not be the &

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-10-14 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:24:26PM +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > It is not in the benefit of MeeGo project to use "Smeegol". We therefore > > can not approve such usage of MeeGo mark in "Smeegol". We understand that > > you've already announced it and we will be happy to work with you to come >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-10-13 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 03:05:40PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > Hello Andrew, > > Please accept my apologies for late reply. This is regarding your request to > use: > >Smeegol, an openSUSE release based on the netbook user interface that >came from the Meego(TM)* project. >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-24 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 04:23:30PM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: > Just because connman is a small component and has a fairly self-contained API > and predictable behaviour, it's not an exception to the rule. You must use > the > components, all of them, in the same versions. Ah, so the same wi

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-23 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:45:45PM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Thursday 23. September 2010 21.05.56 Greg KH wrote: > > I don't see ConnMan providing an API or ABI, do you? If so, where is it > > documented? > > Yes, I do. It has a D-Bus API. So, if _thats_ the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-23 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 01:59:14PM -0700, Ryan Ware wrote: > On 09/23/2010 01:29 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > I don't know what it is these days, as there's only been one release, > > and that's the netbook 1.0 one. > > > > > Not to be pedantic about

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-23 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 02:03:00PM -0700, Auke Kok wrote: > On 09/23/10 13:48, Greg KH wrote: > >On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 01:31:43PM -0700, Auke Kok wrote: > >>On 09/23/10 13:04, David Greaves wrote: > >>>On 23/09/10 20:05, Greg KH wrote: > >>>>On T

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-23 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 01:31:43PM -0700, Auke Kok wrote: > On 09/23/10 13:04, David Greaves wrote: > >On 23/09/10 20:05, Greg KH wrote: > >>On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:20:27PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > >>>On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Dave Neary wro

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-23 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:04:07PM +0100, David Greaves wrote: > On 23/09/10 20:05, Greg KH wrote: > >On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:20:27PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > >>On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > >>>Ibrahim Haddad wrote: >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-23 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:20:27PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > > > You can apply patches against > > > components in the MeeGo Core stack and you can add new components but > > > not to replace ex

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-23 Thread Greg KH
Large snippage, as I think the main problem here is a lot of confusion: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:52:13AM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > > > Compliance is work in progress - please participate in the compliance > > > discussion thread to help shape the compliance efforts and please refer > > to

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-23 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 06:05:05PM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: > Em Quinta-feira 23 Setembro 2010, às 17:25:53, Jared K. Smith escreveu: > > As I read it, the latest "compliance" draft documentation says nothing > > about connman, but if that's really going to be a solid requirement > > for compl

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-23 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:06:04AM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > Hi Jared, > > I am confirming that we were contacted by RH and you were cc-ed on the > emails. We agreed on the wording of your spin (which is inline with the > trademark policy and guidelines [1]), and approval was given conditiona

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-22 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 07:58:19AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > As part of the discussion we had internally I believe RH legal spoke > to the LF and got some sort of response that it would be fine if we > complied with the requirements and kept getting referred to the > website and we complied wi

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-21 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:29:43PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:16:40PM -0700, Auke Kok wrote: > >> On 09/20/10 12:42, Andrew Wafaa wrote: > >> >Firstly sorry if this is the wrong

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 08:20:48PM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 9/20/2010 5:10 PM, Greg KH wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:57:51PM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: >>> On 9/20/2010 4:47 PM, Greg KH wrote: >>>> On M >>>>>> Great, as ther

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 05:56:00PM -0700, Christian Daudt wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 02:45:52PM -0700, Christian Daudt wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Greg KH wrote: > >> > On Mon, Sep 20, 201

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:55:57PM -0700, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > >> >> > My next question is that of artwork.  Looking at the link provided I > >> >> > don't see anything about artwork usage.  From what I can tell, there > >> >> > is > >> >> > the icon-theme package which refers to the Compliance

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:57:51PM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 9/20/2010 4:47 PM, Greg KH wrote: > >On M > >>>Great, as there is no final compliance program, all things are free to > >>>use, right? > >>Depending on what is being used, some require

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:23:27PM -0700, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > > > > What "name"?  "Smeegol"?  The LF can't say anything about that, sorry, > > but it can have an influence on how the wording of the statement. > > It is the wording more than anything else. Then say that :) > The link provides

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 03:50:20PM -0700, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > comments inline highlighted in blue. "blue" doesn't work in text-only email clients, sorry :) > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Andrew Wafaa wrote: > > > On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 15:00 -0700, Greg

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:44:32PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > * > * > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:02:38PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > > > Please visit: > > > > > http://www.linuxfoundati

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 02:45:52PM -0700, Christian Daudt wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:02:38PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > >> Please visit: > >> http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/linux-foundation-trade

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 04:02:38PM -0500, Ibrahim Haddad wrote: > Please visit: > http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/linux-foundation-trademark-usage-guidelines(which > also includes correct and incorrect ways of using the mark) > > The link above is also reachable from: http://meego.com/about/t

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:53:43PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > Otherwise, I think the name "Smeego, based on the spittle that came from > the MeeGo(tm) release" looks like a nice phrase to use. s/Smeego/Smeegol/ ___ MeeGo-dev mailin

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:38:46PM -0700, Auke Kok wrote: > On 09/20/10 13:25, Greg KH wrote: > >>> I hate to say it, but for all cases where legal issues are involved, > >>> please consult your lawyer. > >Hey, that's totally not fair here. > > >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc.

2010-09-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:16:40PM -0700, Auke Kok wrote: > On 09/20/10 12:42, Andrew Wafaa wrote: > >Firstly sorry if this is the wrong list to send this question to, please > >advise on the best one if it isn't here. > > > >I have been spending my time trying to get the MeeGo UX into reasonable >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Upstart in MeeGo?

2010-09-18 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:53:52AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > MeeGo currently boots in about 8 seconds on a netbook. We're not > starting things we don't need to start. > We start all the things we know we need anyway as early as possible > so we don't need to wait on it later. openSUSE is b

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Upstart in MeeGo?

2010-09-18 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 08:05:56AM -0700, Michael Leibowitz wrote: > On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 07:53 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > upstart has license/contribution issues which are not pretty > > License is GPLv2, according to Launchpad. The Canonical Contributor > Agreement requires copyright a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Upstart in MeeGo?

2010-09-18 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 05:23:20PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: > 2010/9/17 Greg KH : > > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 03:19:05PM +0300, Pertti Kellom??ki wrote: > >> Are there any plans re upstart in MeeGo? I'm asking because we have > >> test scripts that use in

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Upstart in MeeGo?

2010-09-17 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 03:19:05PM +0300, Pertti Kellomäki wrote: > Are there any plans re upstart in MeeGo? I'm asking because we have > test scripts that use initctl to control daemons, so the scripts > need to be modified if there is no upstart. I would hope it would be on the roadmap for futur

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ./scripts/sequence-patch.sh --quilt script fails

2010-08-30 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 07:19:24PM +0200, mikhail.zabal...@nokia.com wrote: > What, does MeeGo still maintain the kernel sources as a repository not > cloned off the actual kernel tree? Yes. > Do we like having any kernel builder or contributor jump through hoops > all the time, or is there a goo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH] Upgrade N900 SGX drivers to 201003002 in order to not have a non-production snapshot of the drivers. Fixes BMC#5711

2010-08-24 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 04:59:34PM +0200, Carsten Munk wrote: > 2010/8/24 Greg KH : > > And is this upstream?  If not, why not? > > Is Moorestown SGX upstream? (Both ARM and IA have skeletons in the closet). I don't think so, and yes, I am well aware of this skeleton, we dan

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 4/4] cy8ctmg110: Add multi-touch capabilities

2010-08-24 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 07:51:32AM -0700, James wrote: > On 08/23/2010 08:55 PM, Greg KH wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 08:19:44PM -0700, James wrote: >> >>> On 08/19/2010 05:10 PM, Greg KH wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 04:28:39PM

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH] Upgrade N900 SGX drivers to 201003002 in order to not have a non-production snapshot of the drivers. Fixes BMC#5711

2010-08-24 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 04:30:18PM +0200, Carsten Munk wrote: > This is part 5 of 5 of a patchset implementing the following in MeeGo kernel: > > - Add OMAP DSS2 patches for supporting upgraded SGX driver: >linux-2.6.35-OMAP-DSS2-in_use-flag-for-dss_cache.patch >linux-2.6.35-OMAP-DSS2-Keep

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH] N900: Add SGX platform device to board configuration of N900

2010-08-24 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 04:29:53PM +0200, Carsten Munk wrote: > This is part 4 of 5 of a patchset implementing the following in MeeGo kernel: > > - Add OMAP DSS2 patches for supporting upgraded SGX driver: >linux-2.6.35-OMAP-DSS2-in_use-flag-for-dss_cache.patch >linux-2.6.35-OMAP-DSS2-Keep

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 4/4] cy8ctmg110: Add multi-touch capabilities

2010-08-23 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 08:19:44PM -0700, James wrote: > On 08/19/2010 05:10 PM, Greg KH wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 04:28:39PM -0700, James wrote: >> > ... >>> The above is enabled via CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_CY8CTMG110_MULTIPLE_INPUT >>> with the default

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 0/4] cy8ctmg110 touch screen improvements

2010-08-23 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 07:50:49PM -0700, James wrote: > On 08/19/2010 05:09 PM, Greg KH wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 04:21:18PM -0700, James wrote: >> >>> This series fixes two bugs (jitter and calibration), provides some >>> general cleanups, and adds mu

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 2/4] cy8ctmg110: Rework to be multi-touch ready

2010-08-23 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 07:37:41PM -0700, James wrote: > On 08/19/2010 05:11 PM, Greg KH wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 04:24:59PM -0700, James wrote: >> >>> This patch modifies cy8ctmg110_touch_pos to map all of the data provided >>> from the hardware into

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 2/4] cy8ctmg110: Rework to be multi-touch ready

2010-08-19 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 04:24:59PM -0700, James wrote: > This patch modifies cy8ctmg110_touch_pos to map all of the data provided > from the hardware into the cy8ctmg110 data structure for use within the > driver. In doing so, the patch also cleans up some endian conversions to > use be16_to_cpup(

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 4/4] cy8ctmg110: Add multi-touch capabilities

2010-08-19 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 04:28:39PM -0700, James wrote: > This patch optionally provides a mode of multitouch that works with > Qt 4.7's approach of taking input from multiple /dev/input/event > interfaces. It does so by creating one input device for each supported > contact point (2 in this case)

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 0/4] cy8ctmg110 touch screen improvements

2010-08-19 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 04:21:18PM -0700, James wrote: > This series fixes two bugs (jitter and calibration), provides some > general cleanups, and adds multi-touch capabilities to for the > cy8ctmg110 touch screen driver. > > James Ketrenos (4): > cy8ctmg110: Removed X and Y scaling factor for

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_PHUB driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-19 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 03:27:23PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtake wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Thank you for your comments. > > > +#define MODULE_NAME "pch_phub" > > > > This isn't needed, right? The kernel provides this to you in the build > > service automatically. > > I can't understand above enough. > Is t

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_PHUB driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-18 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 06:10:29PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtak wrote: > Hi Greg, > > We have modified our phub driver with sysfs I/F. What is "I/F"? The driver is a lot better, thanks for doing this. It's also simpler, right? > Please check below. > > Best Regards, Ohtake(OKISEMI). > > --- > Packe

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_IEEE1588 driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-17 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 04:12:45PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtake wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 04:29:25PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtake wrote: > > > > > > Hi Greg, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they all have to be ioctls? What exactly are they doing? > > > > > > I think using ioctl is common for this

Re: [MeeGo-dev] non SSSE3 MeeGo

2010-08-13 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:58:49PM +0100, Robin Burchell wrote: > Excerpts from Greg KH's message of Fri Aug 13 22:14:19 +0100 2010: > > And still I fail to see why you are trying to compare MeeGo to Ubuntu. > > If you like Ubuntu, it's there for you to use, no one is forcing you to > > use MeeGo,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] non SSSE3 MeeGo

2010-08-13 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:27:04PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > Greg KH a écrit : > >On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:53:09PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > >> > >>This was the Meego decision, without the community, to not be based > >>on a upstrea

Re: [MeeGo-dev] non SSSE3 MeeGo

2010-08-13 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:33:18PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > >>The booting process has been analyzed by many peoples the last > >>couple of years. I have not read all of there conclusions, but from > >>what I remember, reducing the I/O activity (in number and in > >>latency) was a far

Re: [MeeGo-dev] non SSSE3 MeeGo

2010-08-13 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:20:47PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > Greg KH a écrit : > >On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 05:37:04PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > >>Foster, Dawn M a écrit : > >>>On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:42 AM, David Greaves wrote: > >>&g

Re: [MeeGo-dev] non SSSE3 MeeGo

2010-08-13 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:53:09PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > > This was the Meego decision, without the community, to not be based > on a upstream distribution to solve this kind of issue. Several of > us have warned at that time that this will be a big wast of time. > The argument w

Re: [MeeGo-dev] non SSSE3 MeeGo

2010-08-13 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:32:21PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > Greg KH a écrit : > >On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 06:01:36PM +0200, Brendan Le Foll wrote: > >>On 13 August 2010 17:53, Greg KH wrote: > [snap] > >>I guess people want the official OBS to have the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] non SSSE3 MeeGo

2010-08-13 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 06:01:36PM +0200, Brendan Le Foll wrote: > On 13 August 2010 17:53, Greg KH wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 05:37:04PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > >> Foster, Dawn M a écrit : > >> >On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:42 AM, David Greaves wro

Re: [MeeGo-dev] non SSSE3 MeeGo

2010-08-13 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 05:37:04PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > Foster, Dawn M a écrit : > >On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:42 AM, David Greaves wrote: > >This is the way open source projects are supposed to work. The > >people who start the project pick a manageable set of hardware to > >get us s

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_IEEE1588 driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-11 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 09:13:24AM +0800, Wang, Qi wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Greg KH [mailto:gre...@suse.de] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:15 PM > > To: Masayuki Ohtake > > Cc: meego-dev@meego.com; LKML; Wang, Qi; Wang, Yong Y;

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_IEEE1588 driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-11 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 04:29:25PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtake wrote: > Hi Greg, > > > Do they all have to be ioctls? What exactly are they doing? > I think using ioctl is common for this patch. "Common" is not ok, right? > Do you think that using ioctl is NOT appropriate for this patch? Yes. > Le

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_IEEE1588 driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-10 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 01:34:33PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtake wrote: > Hi Qi-san > > I have found Macro 'TRUE' and 'FALSE' are used as setting value in the > driver; still, > can't I use TRUE/FALSE macro ? > If not, How should we implement ? Use the 'bool' type, and 'true' and/or 'false' keywords in

Re: [MeeGo-dev] About sysfs data size limitaion

2010-08-10 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 03:35:59PM +0800, Wang, Qi wrote: > Hi Greg, > > As you pointed out, PCH_PHUB patch should be implemented with sysfs interface. Yes. > PCH_PHUB driver need access 15,361 Byte option ROM, but on i386, the > buffer will be 4096B. With this kind of way, we need several buffe

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_CAN driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-10 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:15:15PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtak wrote: > CAN driver of Topcliff PCH > > Topcliff PCH is the platform controller hub that is going to be used in > Intel's upcoming general embedded platform. All IO peripherals in > Topcliff PCH are actually devices sitting on AMBA bus. > T

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] virtio-gl kernel module for GL acceleration of Emulator (on behalf of Ian Molton)

2010-08-10 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 05:39:13PM +0800, Lv, Zhiyuan wrote: > Ian is on travel and I am sending this patch on behalf of him. > > The patch is to add a kernel device driver of virtio-gl, which is used for > data communication between QEMU emulator host and client OS running in it. > This virtual

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_IEEE1588 driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-10 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 07:32:04PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtak wrote: > IEEE1588 driver of Topcliff PCH > > Topcliff PCH is the platform controller hub that is going to be used in > Intel's upcoming general embedded platform. All IO peripherals in > Topcliff PCH are actually devices sitting on AMBA bus.

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_SPI driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-10 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:02:26PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtak wrote: > SPI driver of Topcliff PCH > > Topcliff PCH is the platform controller hub that is going to be used in > Intel's upcoming general embedded platform. All IO peripherals in > Topcliff PCH are actually devices sitting on AMBA bus. > T

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_GPIO driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-10 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 07:59:13PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtak wrote: > GPIO driver of Topcliff PCH > > Topcliff PCH is the platform controller hub that is going to be used in > Intel's upcoming general embedded platform. All IO peripherals in > Topcliff PCH are actually devices sitting on AMBA bus. >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Suggestion on new project ideas

2010-08-10 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 10:39:41AM -0700, Auke Kok wrote: > On 08/09/10 10:28, Carsten Munk wrote: > >2010/8/9 Auke Kok: > >>On 08/08/10 11:22, Anup Bansod wrote: > >>> > >>>I have been studying the architecture for meego for quite a few days now > >>>and also the bugs/deficiencies, i have found so

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_I2C driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-10 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 09:40:58AM +0800, Wang, Qi wrote: > > +#include "i2c-pch.h" > > Why do you need a .h file for this driver? > Almost all the device drivers from OKI have a separate header file. That is not a reason to have a .h file, please don't have one if you don't absolutely need it,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_I2C driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-06 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 01:33:24PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtak wrote: > I2C driver of Topcliff PCH > > Topcliff PCH is the platform controller hub that is going to be used in > Intel's upcoming general embedded platform. All IO peripherals in > Topcliff PCH are actually devices sitting on AMBA bus. > T

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_PHUB driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-04 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 01:25:26PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtake wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Greg KH" > To: "Development for the MeeGo Project (discussion list)" > > Cc: "Khor, Andrew Chih Howe" > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:47

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ospm vs. upower

2010-08-03 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 10:23:07AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 8/3/2010 10:17 AM, Greg KH wro > > And why doesn't it use the "standard" > >userspace interfaces for controlling the system power states? > > there is no standard way to control C states

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ospm vs. upower

2010-08-03 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 10:28:43PM +0530, Thomas, Sujith wrote: > As Arjan responded, some of the changes for this daemon is in progress > and will be re-submitted. re-submitted where? > Until then this is the package that interacts with OSPM driver (the > platform power management kernel driver

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ospm vs. upower

2010-08-03 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 09:24:47AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 8/3/2010 9:07 AM, Greg KH wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 08:54:24AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > >>On 8/3/2010 8:48 AM, Greg KH wrote: > >>>>the userspace you're looking at is an his

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ospm vs. upower

2010-08-03 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 08:54:24AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 8/3/2010 8:48 AM, Greg KH wrote: > >>the userspace you're looking at is an historic artifact, not > >>representing the current state of code. > >It looks like userspace applications use this l

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ospm vs. upower

2010-08-03 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 08:21:14AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 8/3/2010 8:03 AM, Michael Meeks wrote: > >Hi there, > > > > I was browsing the Handset packages when I stumbled upon the ospm > >package. This -appears- to my skim read to fill a rather similar space > >to the upower package

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ospm vs. upower

2010-08-03 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 08:27:04AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 8/3/2010 8:16 AM, Greg KH wrote: > >>ar space > >>> to the upower package. > >One other question about the ospm package, where is the kernel code that > >this library is talking to? I can

[MeeGo-dev] [gre...@suse.de: Re: [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_PHUB driver to 2.6.35]

2010-08-03 Thread Greg KH
Linus without reworking, as I point out below. So can you drop it from your tree for now? thanks, greg k-h - Forwarded message from Greg KH - Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:57:09 -0700 From: Greg KH To: "Development for the MeeGo Project (discussion list)" Cc: "Khor, Andrew Chi

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ospm vs. upower

2010-08-03 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 04:03:54PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > Hi there, > > I was browsing the Handset packages when I stumbled upon the ospm > package. This -appears- to my skim read to fill a rather similar space > to the upower package. One other question about the ospm package, where

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_PHUB driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-03 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 12:03:56PM +0800, Wang, Qi wrote: > Hi Greg, > > This patch has been accepted by the upstream. > http://git.zen-kernel.org/?p=kernel/mmotm.git;a=commit;h=79a0ac666c36d75c98039251cbe0775ea54d9c3e Ah, that's just the -mm tree, everything ends up there :) Please fix this an

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_PHUB driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-03 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 07:48:48PM +0900, Masayuki Ohtake wrote: > Hi Greg KH, > > I have added my answer below. > Please find ''. > > Thanks, Ohtake > > - Original Message - > From: "Greg KH" > To: "Development for the MeeGo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-Dev][PATCH] Topcliff: Update PCH_PHUB driver to 2.6.35

2010-08-02 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 11:34:32AM +0800, Wang, Qi wrote: > Packet hub driver of Topcliff PCH > > Topcliff PCH is the platform controller hub that is going to be used in > Intel's upcoming general embedded platform. All IO peripherals in > Topcliff PCH are actually devices sitting on AMBA bus. Pac

Re: [MeeGo-dev] systemd & meego?

2010-08-02 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 12:07:32PM -0700, Auke Kok wrote: > On 08/02/10 11:09, Greg KH wrote: > >On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 10:48:47AM -0700, Auke Kok wrote: > >>However, I haven't had enough time yet thus far, and some of the > >>methods used by systemd don't

Re: [MeeGo-dev] systemd & meego?

2010-08-02 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 10:48:47AM -0700, Auke Kok wrote: > However, I haven't had enough time yet thus far, and some of the > methods used by systemd don't look that compatible with smartphones > just yet. In what way are the methods not compatible with Linux on a phone? curious, greg k-h _

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Issues getting Network Panel to display properly with NM

2010-07-29 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 09:14:43AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 7/29/2010 1:35 AM, Andrew Wafaa wrote: > >Aloha all, > > > >I'm having some issues getting the network panel to display properly > >using NetworkManager as the backend via network-manager-netbook. I > >appreciate MeeGo uses con

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Difference between MeeGo and Android?

2010-07-21 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 03:32:10PM +0300, Tim Gorree wrote: > So far, what would you say are the main difference between MeeGo and Android? Lots. > What does it do better? And what does it do worse? Benefits vs. shortcomings? Try both out and see for yourself. good luck, greg k-h

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Booting Moorestown image

2010-07-20 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:32:33AM +0800, wrote: > Hi all: > i have a hardware sample of slate(Moorestown) now, the site : > http://www.umpcportal.com/2010/06/meego-tablets-land-wistron-w1-moorestown-meego-and-no-demo-until-tomorrow/. > now i don't know which image be used and how to

Re: [MeeGo-dev] kernel: config-generic issues

2010-07-20 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 05:35:36PM +0300, Ameya Palande wrote: > Here is another example: CONFIG_USB_HSO What's wrong with this module, are you not going to support any random USB device being plugged into your system? thanks, greg k-h ___ MeeGo-dev ma

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo deliberately incompatible with other distros

2010-07-09 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 10:23:45PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 08:35:39PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: > >> So one would expect that such distro-agnostic spec file can be use in > >> Me

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo deliberately incompatible with other distros

2010-07-09 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 08:35:39PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: > Hi, > > So, AFAIK build.meego.com is closed, so many people probably don't > know what it means to maintain a package in MeeGo. Let's shine some > light on that. > > Say you have a package that has a spec file that is distro-agno

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo image for Intel Atom-based in-vehicle platforms released.

2010-07-06 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 10:18:00AM -0600, Clark, Joel wrote: > Folks need to talk to the graphics driver business group to review the > license and get access to the driver. That's why I put the web site up > there. I don't work in that group and can't get the driver for you. As someone who has b

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Where is stdin?

2010-07-04 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 01:49:29AM +0200, Mike Massonnet wrote: > Hi, > > I just figured /dev/stdin is missing (as well as stdout and stderr). I > guess it won't be re-added unless it's a bug, however I had like to > know why. I have a small program that reads from /dev/stdin for user > input and

Re: [MeeGo-dev] multimedia architecture

2010-06-22 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 03:57:36PM +0300, Toni Nikkanen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 05:54:24AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > > also want to know how USB webcam fits into it. > > It is different, it uses the v4l2 layer, not gstreamer. > > Can't it be used via gst

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