On Jul 7, 2010, at 18:28, Thiago Macieira wrote:
On Wednesday 7. July 2010 14.22.56 Nicola Mfb wrote:
Just for example and fun, there is an alpha totally free linux
distribution (coded in the spare time by very few guys where I
contribute) that runs on the OpenMoko freerunner since september
On Wednesday 07 July 2010 18:51:59 Dirk Hohndel wrote:
In reality we are giving a HUGE gift to competitors here. But we are
being attacked for that huge gift not being 100% complete. It feels like
an alternative reality at times. Intel has put hundred of man years of
development into this
2010/7/6 Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org:
But I'd like to plea for you think about something while you're
relaxing. Just something for you to keep in mind for when you're back
at your desk. That is, to remember that we are supposed to be doing,
random citations from around the website:
Backing
join someone else's project, don't start your own
That is true for a lone developer, but when you already have multiple
development teams and communities, it's a slightly different argument.
MeeGo is pushing some radical new ideas about UI design that would be
difficult to get pushed through an
On 08/07/2010 14:25, Eli Foley wrote:
MeeGo is pushing some radical new ideas about UI design that would be
difficult to get pushed through an established project. I think MeeGo
has every right to exist as its own project and there are plenty of good
reasons to start with moblin instead of
On 7/8/2010 5:35 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
On 08/07/2010 14:25, Eli Foley wrote:
MeeGo is pushing some radical new ideas about UI design that would be
difficult to get pushed through an established project. I think MeeGo
has every right to exist as its own project and there are plenty of
On Jul 8, 2010, at 17:46, David Greaves wrote:
On 07/07/10 00:32, Dirk Hohndel wrote:
Again, the default builds that we provide are optimized for Atom - I
don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's fairly straight
forward to build for other platforms if you need that, but I think it
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Jeremiah Foster
jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com wrote:
On Jul 8, 2010, at 17:46, David Greaves wrote:
On 07/07/10 00:32, Dirk Hohndel wrote:
Again, the default builds that we provide are optimized for Atom - I
don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Dirk Hohndel dirk.hohn...@intel.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:06:57 -0600, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
* parts of sdk not running on ati/nvidia boards is community driven?
The SDK uses interfaces that not all open source drivers expose. No
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote:
Are you saying that any mobile vendor that provides the right kernel
may ship meego full featured cellular/tablets without writing a single
line of userland software and capable of running all the meego
compliants
On Wednesday 7. July 2010 12.13.00 Jeremiah Foster wrote:
On Jul 7, 2010, at 04:12, Dirk Hohndel wrote:
Just as I wouldn't expect Nokia to work on adding support for HTC phones
on the ARM side...
Ah, but there is the rub. Any improvement Nokia makes to Linux on the ARM
processor is going
On Wednesday 7. July 2010 14.22.56 Nicola Mfb wrote:
Just for example and fun, there is an alpha totally free linux
distribution (coded in the spare time by very few guys where I
contribute) that runs on the OpenMoko freerunner since september 2009
and uses Qt (over X11) and above all ofono
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 06:22:56 -0600, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Dirk Hohndel dirk.hohn...@intel.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:06:57 -0600, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
* parts of sdk not running on ati/nvidia boards is community
On 7/7/2010 9:51 AM, Dirk Hohndel wrote:
The MeeGo open source project needs to decide how to support different
platforms. One of the contributors to the project, Intel, has decided to
spend significant resources on supporting its own platforms as well as
the overall project (and make no mistake
On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
On 7/7/2010 9:51 AM, Dirk Hohndel wrote:
I find it very weird that we are somehow expected to promise and fund
full support of competitors' platforms - when did that become the norm
for being open?
just to add to this on the funding
On 7 Jul 2010, at 17:59, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
just to add to this on the funding side; each build architecture is probably
in the $50k/year (and $100k initial) investment
just in equipment and data center costs.
Is there a guide on how to setup a meego OBS yet ? I've a very real need
Hi Carsten,
Thanks for your mail. Well timed, and an important message. One which
gets the attention it deserves, I hope.
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org wrote:
There is only one way to work this MeeGo project. Working in the open.
Public RD. Will you pioneer it
- Original message -
From: Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org
To: meego-dev meego-dev@meego.com
Subject: [MeeGo-dev] After handset day one - a plea for openness
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 21:13:11 +0200
great oratory regretfully snipped
.
Openness aids collaboration and behind the doors
- Original message -
From: Robin Burchell virot...@viroteck.net
To: Development for the MeeGo Project (discussion list)
meego-dev@meego.com
Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] After handset day one - a plea for openness
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 20:53:09 +0100
Hi Carsten,
Thanks for your mail
On Jul 6, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Randall Arnold wrote:
Here's where I'll beat my own dead horse: open project management. Not ad hoc,
but supported by the right tool. There are some that plug into bugzilla and I
provided recommendations to Quim and Dawn. Anyway, a web-based project manager
- Original message -
From: Foster, Dawn M dawn.m.fos...@intel.com
To: Development for the MeeGo Project (discussion list)
meego-dev@meego.com
Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] After handset day one - a plea for openness
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:13:43 -0700
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Randy,
I think you
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org wrote:
Hi Carsten!
thanks to point all that periodically ;)
[...]
MeeGo software is developed and designed in a collaborative effort by
an open community of professionals and volunteers
The governance model is based on meritocracy
Hi Nicola,
Just answering parts of the questions related to this thread. I'd like
to take the N900 questions and answer in a different thread but first
in the morning.
2010/7/7 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com:
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org wrote:
Sorry if some
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:06:57 -0600, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Carsten Munk cars...@maemo.org wrote:
Hi Carsten!
thanks to point all that periodically ;)
[...]
MeeGo software is developed and designed in a collaborative effort by
an open
- Original message -
From: Dirk Hohndel dirk.hohn...@intel.com
To: Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com, Development for the MeeGo
Project (discussion list) meego-dev@meego.com
Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] After handset day one - a plea for openness
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:32:54 -0700
On Jul 6, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Randall Arnold wrote:
- Original message -
From: Dirk Hohndel dirk.hohn...@intel.com
To: Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com, Development for the MeeGo
Project (discussion list) meego-dev@meego.com
Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] After handset day one
- Original message -
From: Foster, Dawn M dawn.m.fos...@intel.com
To: Development for the MeeGo Project (discussion list)
meego-dev@meego.com
Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] After handset day one - a plea for openness
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:55:58 -0700
On Jul 6, 2010, at 4:48 PM
handset day one - a plea for openness
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:32:54 -0700
* not official support of meego on some hardware is community driven?
Again, the default builds that we provide are optimized for Atom - I
don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's fairly straight
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 18:05:42 -0600, Randall Arnold tex...@ovi.com wrote:
Thanks Dawn, but maybe I didn't phrase my question well.
I do understand the point of the first build being developed for a
specific platform-- I was just unclear on the optimizations part.
You are splitting hairs.
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