Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-25 Thread Ross Burton
On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 22:55 +0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: but at the end of the day, end users won't even notice either of the two. Actually users do notice: GConf/dconf settings are instant apply with notifications across the desktop, QSettings not so much. Ross -- Intel Open Source

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-25 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em terça-feira, 25 de janeiro de 2011, às 11:33:00, Ross Burton escreveu: On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 22:55 +0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: but at the end of the day, end users won't even notice either of the two. Actually users do notice: GConf/dconf settings are instant apply with notifications

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-25 Thread Robin Burchell
On 25/01/11 12:12, Thiago Macieira wrote: Em terça-feira, 25 de janeiro de 2011, às 11:33:00, Ross Burton escreveu: On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 22:55 +0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: but at the end of the day, end users won't even notice either of the two. Actually users do notice: GConf/dconf

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-25 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em terça-feira, 25 de janeiro de 2011, às 12:17:05, Robin Burchell escreveu: Though, at present, QSettings provides no API for change notifications (something which has irritated me, and obviously others, many times - going by the number of GConf uses and wrappers that have proliferated around

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-25 Thread Rob Taylor
On 25/01/11 13:21, Thiago Macieira wrote: Em terça-feira, 25 de janeiro de 2011, às 12:17:05, Robin Burchell escreveu: Though, at present, QSettings provides no API for change notifications (something which has irritated me, and obviously others, many times - going by the number of GConf uses

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-25 Thread Urho Konttori
Em terça-feira, 25 de janeiro de 2011, às 12:17:05, Robin Burchell escreveu: Though, at present, QSettings provides no API for change notifications (something which has irritated me, and obviously others, many times - going by the number of GConf uses and wrappers that have proliferated

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-25 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em terça-feira, 25 de janeiro de 2011, às 15:27:02, Urho Konttori escreveu: Don't we have mobility publish and subscribe (or qvaluespace) for the exact purpose outlined here as the change notification? PS is very good at providing dynamic value changes across the entire system. But as it is

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-25 Thread Urho Konttori
ext Thiago Macieira wrote: Em terça-feira, 25 de janeiro de 2011, às 15:27:02, Urho Konttori escreveu: Don't we have mobility publish and subscribe (or qvaluespace) for the exact purpose outlined here as the change notification? PS is very good at providing dynamic value changes

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-25 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em terça-feira, 25 de janeiro de 2011, às 16:15:43, Urho Konttori escreveu: There are different backends to PS. Shared memory is the most volatile and the one people often mistake to be the only backend. Take a peek at: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtmobility-1.2/publ-subs.html Gconf is even now

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-25 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Rob Taylor rob.tay...@codethink.co.uk writes: I have to say, I rather like the idea of using the Qt Pub/Sub API to expose configuration settings (as is done now for gconf). Yes, that's the natural API candidate. What are the drawbacks with that approach? It is not part of QtCore, and

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-25 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Marius Vollmer marius.voll...@nokia.com wrote: What about moving Qt Mob PS into QtCore? QSettings is using it btw? Or has plumbing to allow usage thereof? (I now recalled I talked to you about this a long while back) -Sivan

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-24 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Andre Klapper wrote: Users (=apps) would rather convert to using GSettings in Glib/gio. Most users (=apps) would probably like to continue using the same API, and only have the backing store change. Then there's the second type of users (=people) who want to transparently have the same

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-24 Thread Laurent Pinchart
On Wednesday 19 January 2011 07:38:06 Ville M. Vainio wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:16 AM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com wrote: I also recall a couple of emails about it from the beginning of the project. What has Ubuntu made already that could be served to a transitioning or

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-24 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 1/24/2011 10:29 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: I agree with Aaron that just embracing what Ubuntu does and create Ubuntu- specific versions of Qt applications is a bad idea. If dconf is the way to go, it needs to be properly integrated into Qt instead of coming as Ubuntu- specific bindings. Then

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-24 Thread Dave Neary
Arjan van de Ven wrote: Heck, app writers wouldn't even notice the difference if you use the proper abstraction API. ... which is, presumably, GSettings? Cheers, Dave. -- Email: dne...@maemo.org Jabber: bo...@jabber.org ___ MeeGo-dev mailing

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-24 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em segunda-feira, 24 de janeiro de 2011, às 16:38:46, Dave Neary escreveu: Arjan van de Ven wrote: Heck, app writers wouldn't even notice the difference if you use the proper abstraction API. ... which is, presumably, GSettings? Or a revamped QSettings if we can make it. Besides, the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-24 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 1/24/2011 11:38 PM, Dave Neary wrote: Arjan van de Ven wrote: Heck, app writers wouldn't even notice the difference if you use the proper abstraction API. ... which is, presumably, GSettings? since MeeGo API's are Qt based... it'll be some Qt API.

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-24 Thread Foster, Margie
-Original Message- From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 8:49 AM To: meego-dev@meego.com Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf Em segunda-feira, 24 de janeiro de 2011, às 16:38:46, Dave Neary escreveu

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-24 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em segunda-feira, 24 de janeiro de 2011, às 09:35:28, Foster, Margie escreveu: On MeeGo, I have no clue where it's supposed to be configured, given the different implementations between netbook and the others. Of course, Qt doesn't integrate with any of those. The only way to configuyre the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-24 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Thiago Macieira thi...@kde.org writes: Em segunda-feira, 24 de janeiro de 2011, às 16:38:46, Dave Neary escreveu: Arjan van de Ven wrote: Heck, app writers wouldn't even notice the difference if you use the proper abstraction API. ... which is, presumably, GSettings? Or a revamped

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-24 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday, 25 de January de 2011 08:05:46 Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Thiago Macieira thi...@kde.org writes: Em segunda-feira, 24 de janeiro de 2011, às 16:38:46, Dave Neary escreveu: Arjan van de Ven wrote: Heck, app writers wouldn't even notice the difference if you use the proper

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-22 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 15:06 +0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: it needs a plan and then execution to convert existing users of gconf... and their keys. there are still many keys that are very generic and used by many folks does dconf has a compatibility mode that maps gconf legacy paths to

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-19 Thread Foster, Margie
Cc: meego-dev@meego.com; Ryan Lortie Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf On 1/19/2011 2:49 PM, Rob Taylor wrote: On 19 Jan 2011, at 00:28, Arjan van de Venar...@linux.intel.com wrote: On 1/19/2011 6:11 AM, Ville M. Vainio wrote: Now that the internet is telling me Ubuntu is warming up to Qt

[MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-18 Thread Ville M. Vainio
Now that the internet is telling me Ubuntu is warming up to Qt and making Qt wrappers for dconf... Perhaps this is a bandwagon meego should jump to? It's not like we have anything better lined up in that area. -- Sent from my Nokia N900 ___ MeeGo-dev

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-18 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 1/19/2011 6:11 AM, Ville M. Vainio wrote: Now that the internet is telling me Ubuntu is warming up to Qt and making Qt wrappers for dconf... Perhaps this is a bandwagon meego should jump to? It's not like we have anything better lined up in that area. -- this has come up several

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-18 Thread Sivan Greenberg
I also recall a couple of emails about it from the beginning of the project. What has Ubuntu made already that could be served to a transitioning or testing phase ? -Sivan On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Arjan van de Ven ar...@linux.intel.com wrote: On 1/19/2011 6:11 AM, Ville M. Vainio

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-18 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:16 AM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com wrote: I also recall a couple of emails about it from the beginning of the project. What has Ubuntu made already that could be served to a transitioning or testing phase ? http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/568 Quote:

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-18 Thread Rob Taylor
On 19 Jan 2011, at 00:28, Arjan van de Ven ar...@linux.intel.com wrote: On 1/19/2011 6:11 AM, Ville M. Vainio wrote: Now that the internet is telling me Ubuntu is warming up to Qt and making Qt wrappers for dconf... Perhaps this is a bandwagon meego should jump to? It's not like we have

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Dconf

2011-01-18 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 1/19/2011 2:49 PM, Rob Taylor wrote: On 19 Jan 2011, at 00:28, Arjan van de Venar...@linux.intel.com wrote: On 1/19/2011 6:11 AM, Ville M. Vainio wrote: Now that the internet is telling me Ubuntu is warming up to Qt and making Qt wrappers for dconf... Perhaps this is a bandwagon meego