I had no clue they were on there, it will probably ride alot better with
bilsteins.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
the '85 300D my parents bought from Kaleb had Monroe's on it. HOW DARE YOU
Kaleb! Ok, I know it was the PO.
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From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
it already does. They were on the rear.
-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 15, 2005 1:00 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers
I had no clue they were on there, it will probably ride alot better with
Tom Reynolds wrote:
Actually, upon looking at the statement, temperature changes will affect
nitrogen the same that's not true. Being more inert (less water content)
than compressed air, a nitrogen filled tire will not be nearly as affected
by temperature variations as a compressed air filled
Mitch Haley wrote:
I can't believe that Toyota/Scion was on the list. Those cars are never
discounted and have at least the resale value of a Corolla. And they are
sold by Toyota dealers for the most part, and backed by Toyota. I guess it's
possible the bank was wary of Scion in the first year
Heh heh,
GROUP BUY!!!
grin
Tom
At 10:23 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote:
There is a big sunoco refinery over in west tulsa your direction, close
to the big sinclair refinery.
Tom Reynolds wrote:
Kinda like filling up at Sunoco with their blended pumps. Remember that?
Is Sunoco still
The only reason for using Nitrogen is not in the tire performance aspect,
but important for a shop functioning in cold, subfreezing weather. Water
freezes. Compressor air has water in it. Purchased Nitrogen has no water in
it.
Shop tools, such as air driven impacts, hoist controls and what not,
No gimmick. Science. Physics. etc. But, yeah, on a practical note, as
none of us (well, few of us) are out there on public roads pretending to be
doing laps at (insert race track of your choice here), the only real
benefit we'll likely see is increased fuel mileage because our tires no
longer
Yes, chemical reaction with compressed air and aluminum wheels, not so with
inert nitrogen gas.
Less tire filling. Yea!
Tom
SS, OK
At 10:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote:
I understand it helps to prevent leaks with aluminum wheels. Exactly why, I
am not sure?
Randy
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Doc,
Agrgavation? To me, aggravation is getting out in a cold, dark
parking lot, (whoops, I forgot windy) trying to find the valve, pushing
down my glasses so I can see, checking the pressure, picking UP my
glasses, then finding the darned air pump either costs money or is somehow
There's water in the compressed air, but not in the nitrogen. That's what
makes it temperature sensitive.
Best,
Tom
At 10:16 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote:
Tom Reynolds wrote:
Actually, upon looking at the statement, temperature changes will affect
nitrogen the same that's not true. Being
Yes and no. There IS (believe me folks, I'm not making this up...) a
performance benefit. You know, for example, how engineers try to make a
chassis as stiff as possible? That's because if the chassis is stiff, it
takes a big variable out of suspension tuning. They can concentrate on the
enough) if I had a seatbottom that wasn't all squashed out and broken.
theres obviously a broken spring in the drivers seat although its not
currently sticking through the seat there is a hole.
My 190D had a broken spring, and it poked my wife in the ass when
she steered it home. (On the end
Sounds like you guys need some new tires or cleaner wheels or something.
Unless I've got a slow leak my tires hold their pressure other than a couple
lbs difference summer to winter. In other words, I set the tire pressure in
the summer ones when I put them on at around 60-70 degrees and that's
Yeah, I suppose if it doesn't contain any moisture it wouldn't be as likely
to corrode. But in the 50 or so aluminum wheels I've used over the last 15
years I only ever had a couple that had any minor leaks like that which puts
it at least as good as any steel wheels I've had. Either way you had
Remember, these people are selling a product, but that is their argiment:
http://www.whynitrofill.com/faq.htm
On 12/15/05, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like you guys need some new tires or cleaner wheels or something.
Unless I've got a slow leak my tires hold their pressure
Richard,
I went through the same episode a while back. Definitely go with option A.
In my situation it was a case of a worn tumbler and sticky steering lock. It
may take some teasing, but if the new key worked once it will eventually work
one more time. If the tumbler is worn and
Jim
Where are you located?
Thanks,
Bruce
Jim Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, cosidering selling if there is any interest. About 160K miles,
doesn't start well in cold, runs and shifts OK, vacuum leak renders door
locks inoperative, minor body rough spots, may be worth
Awesome, I use Exploder unless I'm on a Linux box, inertia more than anything...
Hmm, now we just need somebody, or a couple somebody's coming from VA to
MA...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:22:59 -0500
From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump
The car looks nice, but wow, he's posting NADA book values in pesos!
What's up with that? Kaleb might offer an extra ten-spot over his
usual $500 for this one.
=)
+dm™
--
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:15:13 -0700
From: Bob
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:40:11PM -0700, Tom Reynolds wrote:
Yes, chemical reaction with compressed air and aluminum wheels, not so with
inert nitrogen gas.
Less tire filling. Yea!
Race cars use it. When I got new tires for the 78 300D, they offered it,
claiming that the nitrogen molecules
Nitrogen has been used for specialty purposes in tires for years.
20 some odd years ago in college, one of my instructors ( who was a
retired big wig from the society of automotive engineers, and consultant
and board member to a number of regulatory agencies ) explained how some
of the car
The whole idea of filling my tyres with nitrogen is fascinating.
However, I just wouldn't feel comfortable unless it was
Mercedes-approved nitrogen. Even better if it's diesel-rated. Anyone
have a part number for Rusty to quote a price on? Don't forget to Red
Loc-Tite on the adapters to the
Tan Qu wrote:
Does W201 use the same differential mounts as the W124
or other models? I can find the mounts for W124 at
Rusty's website but not for W201. Also, is there a
particular reason you used W202 subframe mount in lieu
of the original W201 mounts just part availability
issue?
The 202
Well, my feelings are that he knew, but I'm not here to throw stones at him.
Just needed to vent.
-brian
-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:56 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question
Interesting fuel story:
http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2005/12/15/hearn/index.html?
source=daily
Ron Dwelle
Wow, it has twin aux. fans. I've never seen that before.
On 12/14/05, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No Affiliation. But here is a 93 190E with only 103K with a buy it now
of $3500. I wonder what the reserve is. Was there some list member up
north? Do you want a gasser. It looks
Speaking of not perfect, the 1985 300CD trunk lid won't close properly. I
have to set the lid down and then press HARD to get it to close. Otherwise,
it just bounces back up when I slam it down the usual way. Is there
anything to lube to get it to be more obedient?
On 12/14/05, redghost [EMAIL
It seems the 1985 123 300 automatic transmissions never go bad.
On 12/14/05, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All I know is that is almost my cars twin. Same yr,
same model, same color, and same mileage (well OK mine
has 500 more miles) the only thing missing on mine is
the trailer
Is there a rash of 123, 124, 114, 126, and 201 Mercedes DIESELS out
there that are so highly tuned and performance driven that you need
nitrogen in your tires? Is there a rash of flat tires out there that I
don't know about? No disrespect, but this sounds crazy. I do
understand if I am out
Never use ordinary air and fluids when Mobil One Synthetic Air and Mobile
TwoPointFive Intermittent Synthetic Blinker Fluid are available. Both are
made from 100 percent ersatz buckeyball molecules. The price is $15.00/cu.
ft. for the air and $7.00 fl. oz. for the 15W 15 fluid at Walmart (of
I replace shocks when the ride is harsh. No fancy testing. 9 of the 10
Mercedes I have owned required new shocks. The only one with a perfect ride
was the first - a 1973 280.
On 12/15/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it already does. They were on the rear.
-Original
my latest water bill had an article enlcosed on how the KC water dept has
displaced 620,000 gasoline equivalent gallons of fuel with the use of BioD
and CNG (compressed Natural gas). Interesting. Apparently there are 88 cities
in an organization doing the same thing and they celebrated the
Dave M. Wrote:
The car looks nice, but wow, he's posting NADA book values in pesos!
What's up with that? Kaleb might offer an extra ten-spot over his usual
$500 for this one.
I like what the seller said in the ad
CURRENT N.A.D.A IS $8750 AND KELLEY BLUE BOOK IS $9475(AND THAT WOULD
BE
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 07:15:53AM -0800, Jim Cathey wrote:
I hooked up the 'new' batteries, and hit the start button.
WOOKA-WOOKA-WOOKA-WOOKA... Hooray! The thing spun over easily, at a
pretty good clip. I put the spark (paint!) plugs back in, and tried
again. WOOKA-WOOKA-WOOKA-WOOKA...
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 03:30:11PM -0500, Marshall Booth wrote:
The 202 subframe mount has been used to suppress differential noise in
201 series cars almost as soon as they became available. I believe they
now supersede the 201 subframe mounts.
They sort of do. One set was a 202 part
Grist?! Holy crap I haven't seen anything from them since I was a kidI
thought it went the way of green stamps.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 144K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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From: Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday,
That's what Rusty said when I just talked to him.
There is no differential mount for W201 at least the
190Dt. Four sets of bolts and washer hold the
differential in place. Could the washer be something
like this -
Donald noted:
CURRENT N.A.D.A IS $8750 AND KELLEY BLUE BOOK IS $9475(AND THAT WOULD
BE A VEHICLE WITH AVERAGE MILES OF 276,000
For those of you who have 123's this should be very exciting news. A 123
with 276,000 miles is worth between $8750-9500. Funny I thought a 123
with 276K would be worth
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:49:15PM -0800, Tan Qu wrote:
Four sets of bolts and washer hold the differential in place.
The washer is a boring old flat washer.
Well, would this new finding suggesting the subframe
mounts have collapsed and caused the change of the
geometry of
No, it is a longer one. It reaches both upper lower bolts.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tan Qu
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:49 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT
That's what Rusty said
Was that a big job? How long did it take you to do it?
If lubing the calipers pin do not help, I may have to
look to go in that way.
Tan
--- Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:49:15PM -0800, Tan Qu
wrote:
Four sets of bolts and washer hold the
differential in place.
Tom wrote:I put Monroe shocks on one of my Mercedes once and will never do
it again
If you'll hold a Monroe and a Bilstein side-by-side you'll see the
problem/difference. The cylinder and rod are both about twice the diameter
of the one's on a Monroe! If you see Monroe's on a used MB be
If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no
difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being
that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna
get you much.
But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to
Oh, I've already got one of those tornado generators on my Benz, it helps
power a lot. It's called a turbo. (:
Levi
On 12/15/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no
difference between the expansion properties of air and
Levi wrote:There's also cheap valve stem caps that change color when you
start getting
low on air that would be a good bet to save the effort as well.
I bought a set of the valve stem caps and initially liked them so well I
bought 2 more sets. One morning I found a flat tire, ran out with the
David Brodbeck wrote:
Maybe they're afraid of the people who buy Scions. Kind of like how
insurance companies tend to charge higher rates on cars that are
attractive to teenagers.
Definitely idiot-oriented. Blue lights under the dash are an option
on the Xa, cruise control isn't. I might
I don't have a turbo, so I figured this device would be the next best
thing, after I put on the R sticker.
--R
Levi Smith wrote:
Oh, I've already got one of those tornado generators on my Benz, it helps
power a lot. It's called a turbo. (:
Levi
On 12/15/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Or I 'spose it is a parts car for LT Don
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-Mercedes-240D_W0QQitemZ4596821298QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
No affiliation, ect.
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:02:54PM -0800, Tan Qu wrote:
Was that a big job? How long did it take you to do it?
If lubing the calipers pin do not help, I may have to
look to go in that way.
Unfortunately, I dropped that subframe enough that I could get it
dropped in under a half hour, and
That thing has a trailer hitch on it, you guys wanting one could buy the
whole thing for less than the hitch is worth. If you got the dogs out
of the in tact interior you could probably get it started and drive it
home.
--R
Rick Knoble wrote:
Or I 'spose it is a parts car for LT Don
That is REALLY tempting.
On 12/15/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That thing has a trailer hitch on it, you guys wanting one could buy the
whole thing for less than the hitch is worth. If you got the dogs out
of the in tact interior you could probably get it started and drive it
By the way, that is over in extreme eastern Iowa.
On 12/15/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is REALLY tempting.
On 12/15/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That thing has a trailer hitch on it, you guys wanting one could buy the
whole thing for less than the hitch is
Schrader valves were never designed to be constantly fooled with, it's
no wonder those caps cause problems.
I drove for a trucking company a bunch of years ago. one of the owners (
an investor with the brain power of a turnip) decided that he wanted all
his drivers to check the air pressure
Hadn't thought about it that much, I would tend to agree with it. I also
hadn't heard about the problems with the monitoring caps, though I can't
say that I've actually talked to anyone who's used them yet. But I guess it
doesn't sound like that much of a surprise. I guess I just still need one
Ohh yeah, that's good for 10-20HP right there. Just make sure you paint
your car yellow and put stickers on it (each one is good for another 2HP)
Then get a 9 exhaust tip. At that point you'll have at least doubled your
power!
Levi (:
On 12/15/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't
From memory, the Schrader valve is not the primary seal. The screw on cap is
the primary seal.
But the Schrader valve acts as a backup if the screw on cap fails or is not
properly tightened.
The screw on pressure checkers replace the primary seal (the valve cap)
they hold the Schrader valve
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One morning I found a flat tire, ran out with the air
hose and refilled it to see if I could get to Costso for a free fix - it
held air but when I put the valve cap back on the air started flooding out!
I think any device that holds the schrader valve open is
I don't think as fast, though. Ah well, it was just a conversation
starter. Anyone wanna talk about F1 or bike racing?
grin
Tom
Sand Springs, OK
At 12:19 PM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote:
Tom Reynolds wrote:
Doc,
Agrgavation? To me, aggravation is getting out in a cold, dark
parking
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