Re: [MBZ] PiNG?

2007-06-03 Thread Bob Rentfro
With any luck your Razorbacks may get to play the Sun Devils in Omaha. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] PiNG? Sorry, I was not sitting by my computer

Re: [MBZ] Tilt?

2007-06-03 Thread RELNGSON
And yes, all MB sunroofs had the tilt function 86 and up.. H. My '89 190E 2.6 didn't , as I recall. My W202 did and my W203 does, of course. As my W204 will. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [MBZ] 201 years

2007-06-03 Thread RELNGSON
82 was the first year for the 201 but I don't know if any where sold overseas. '84 was the first year for the US market. That's the one with the itty-bitty 14 wheels and the non-extending wiper arm. Built through 1/85. So, there were some sold as '85s when they were really 84s. RLE

[MBZ] Just got my 1980 450sl running

2007-06-03 Thread The Wakin's
Well, the thunderstorm passed over so I went back out to try and get the 450sl going - I whacked a little more on the solenoid, checked some wires, and she fired right up.Thanks to those who gave me advice. Now I know I need to lube the throttle linkage as it sticks, and the idle seems high

Re: [MBZ] Just got my 1980 450sl running

2007-06-03 Thread Peter Frederick
If it has K jet it has an idle control valve, I believe. Look for loose hoses! It may have a warm-up regulator, I don't remember, will have to find my book -- if so, it should close as it warms up, slowing the idle. Peter

[MBZ] my ugly 190D

2007-06-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK everyone who wanted pics (there were several), here are the pics of that ugly 190D of mine. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/ugly190D/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84

Re: [MBZ] Just got my 1980 450sl running

2007-06-03 Thread John Freer
Dave, wouldn't drive it that way too long. The tranny can overheat real quick at a stoplight. On 6/2/07, The Wakin's [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the thunderstorm passed over so I went back out to try and get the 450sl going - I whacked a little more on the solenoid, checked some wires, and

Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagonry

2007-06-03 Thread LarryT
Jim wrote:There was a lot of paint gone because of the brake fluid leak. I then I wonder how powder coating stands up to Brake Fluid? Anybody with experience? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results

Re: [MBZ] Just bought a 1980 450sl

2007-06-03 Thread LarryT
If you can find a way to heat the engine with the MM in the cylinders, it may speedup the process somewhat - A HD hair dryer of industrical space heater sometimes helps. I've seen engines pull started to get them to turn over when they lock up like this -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78

Re: [MBZ] my ugly 190D

2007-06-03 Thread Wonko the Sane
That is a parade vehicle compared to the butt-ugly crap you normally drive. On 6/2/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK everyone who wanted pics (there were several), here are the pics of that ugly 190D of mine. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/ugly190D/ -- Kaleb C.

[MBZ] Kaleb's strange 603

2007-06-03 Thread John Robbins
http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/ Do you still have this engine Kaleb? Is there a throttle linkage going to the IP or can you take another pic of the governor part of the IP?

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's strange 603

2007-06-03 Thread John Robbins
I'm blind. Found another pic of what I wanted. That still is a really strange setup... John Robbins wrote: http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/ Do you still have this engine Kaleb? Is there a throttle linkage going to the IP or can you take another pic of the governor part of the IP?

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's strange 603

2007-06-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, I do still have it. John Robbins wrote: I'm blind. Found another pic of what I wanted. That still is a really strange setup... John Robbins wrote: http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/603engine/ Do you still have this engine Kaleb? Is there a throttle linkage going to the IP or can you

Re: [MBZ] my ugly 190D

2007-06-03 Thread OK Don
How bad is the water damage from having the sunroof open for how long??? On 6/2/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK everyone who wanted pics (there were several), here are the pics of that ugly 190D of mine. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this

Re: [MBZ] my ugly 190D

2007-06-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop
No damage, pictures tell it all pretty much OK Don wrote: How bad is the water damage from having the sunroof open for how long??? On 6/2/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK everyone who wanted pics (there were several), here are the pics of that ugly 190D of mine.

Re: [MBZ] my ugly 190D

2007-06-03 Thread OK Don
Floor panels under the carpet? Does the odometer work? Does it smell of mold? On 6/2/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No damage, pictures tell it all pretty much OK Don wrote: How bad is the water damage from having the sunroof open for how long??? -- OK Don, KD5NRO

Re: [MBZ] my ugly 190D

2007-06-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 19:14:43 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK everyone who wanted pics (there were several), here are the pics of that ugly 190D of mine. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/ugly190D/ Yup, that's ugly. Craig

Re: [MBZ] Crack 87 190D on ebay

2007-06-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Marshall Booth wrote: I assume that the tilt sunroofs also retract as do the non-tilt ones, and that they open just as wide? Until they break! So the tilt-up S/R was an upgrade when new, but not necessarily a good feature to own 20 years later? Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] 190D turd

2007-06-03 Thread RELNGSON
http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/ugly190D/ How can the engine be excellent when the rest of the car has been utterly destroyed? Divine intervention? RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [MBZ] 190D turd

2007-06-03 Thread Zeitgeist
Excellent is not the superlative I'd use when describing the pic of that engine, either. Dusty is probably more appropriate. On 6/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/ugly190D/ How can the engine be excellent when the rest of the car has been utterly

Re: [MBZ] my ugly 190D

2007-06-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
floor panels are fine, I do not know if the odo works, it smells moldy, needs to be aired out OK Don wrote: Floor panels under the carpet? Does the odometer work? Does it smell of mold? On 6/2/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No damage, pictures tell it all pretty much

Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagonry

2007-06-03 Thread Jim Cathey
What hours do you work? I usually get there about 9:30. That day was a bit later. Lots of time to work on a car when you get up at 5:30. May nothing break! Hear, hear! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Just got my 1980 450sl running

2007-06-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Now I know I need to lube the throttle linkage as it sticks, and the idle seems high (1500 rpm). The rpm does drop to 800 or so when I put it in gear. The '76 model has a purely mechanical thermostatic idle air valve that can get out of whack. (Don't know if yours has this, or computer

Re: [MBZ] Crack 87 190D on ebay

2007-06-03 Thread Jim Cathey
I assume that the tilt sunroofs also retract as do the non-tilt ones, and that they open just as wide? What opens particularly wide is your wallet when the tilting roofs break. Which they are more prone to do than the regular roofs. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagonry

2007-06-03 Thread Jim Cathey
I am disappointed that you did not weld up any old refrigerator or microwave sheet metal onto the car in this episode. That's more appropriate for the Frankenheap. When I've invested 4x as much in a car ($400, rather than $100) I hate to weld crap scrap metal onto it. :-) The car is actually

Re: [MBZ] PiNG?

2007-06-03 Thread Luther
Eh, we have to win 3 games in the next 2 days to have that chance -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans

Re: [MBZ] PiNG?

2007-06-03 Thread Bob Rentfro
Good Luck, then. Bob R - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] PiNG? Eh, we have to win 3 games in the next 2 days to have that chance -- Luther KB5QHU

Re: [MBZ] '82, huh.

2007-06-03 Thread Hendrik Riessen
82 was the year the 201 was introduced, wether any where sold I don't know but some where made in 82. - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82, huh.

Re: [MBZ] 201 years

2007-06-03 Thread Hendrik Riessen
The erly 201's also came with CIS instead of CIS/E. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 years 82 was the first year for the 201 but I don't know if any where sold overseas. '84 was the

Re: [MBZ] Crack 87 190D on ebay

2007-06-03 Thread tom savage
Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: This sunroof discussion is helpful as well as scary. I really like the tilt feature and use it almost exclusively. Does anyone know if the slide function works when the tilt arm breaks? Will it close when it breaks? Thanks, Dwight Dunno, depends on it's position

Re: [MBZ] Crack 87 190D on ebay

2007-06-03 Thread Jim Cathey
It also sounds like you can preserve the tilt-up roof if you don't tilt it up all the way, or if you find a way to put a microswitch on the tilt mechanism to limit travel? I believe there is a travel limiting switch already, it's what stops it at the full closed position! There's only the one

Re: [MBZ] Crack 87 190D on ebay

2007-06-03 Thread Peter Frederick
The sunroof becomes immobile when the lifting angles break. The new ones are much more robust, but you still need to keep the sunroof well lubricated with MB sunroof paste (and nothing else). Peter

Re: [MBZ] Just got my 1980 450sl running

2007-06-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
75 was the last year for D-Jet Peter Frederick wrote: Yeah, but that's the D-jet idle control valve. Don't know how late it was used, maybe on all cast iron M117s? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

[MBZ] ADMIN, spam filters

2007-06-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I am getting ready to turn the spam filters back on. You may start seeing SPAM in the subject lines for a while until they re-learn what is not spam. If anybody has any trouble receiving or posting to the list, let me know. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, spam filters

2007-06-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:53:07 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am getting ready to turn the spam filters back on. You may start seeing SPAM in the subject lines for a while until they re-learn what is not spam. If anybody has any trouble receiving or posting to the list,

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, spam filters

2007-06-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You wouldnt see spam Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 09:53:07 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am getting ready to turn the spam filters back on. You may start seeing SPAM in the subject lines for a while until they re-learn what is not spam. If anybody has any

[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: '82, huh.

2007-06-03 Thread Marshall Booth
Hendrik Riessen wrote: 82 was the year the 201 was introduced, wether any where sold I don't know but some where made in 82. The '85 Tech. Data Manual shows 201 production commenced in 1982. It provided a prototype for the 124. The 201 was not introduced until 1984. Marshall -- Marshall

Re: [MBZ] my ugly 190D

2007-06-03 Thread Ed Booher
You're wanting what $75 for it? On 6/3/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: floor panels are fine, I do not know if the odo works, it smells moldy, needs to be aired out -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.

Re: [MBZ] my ugly 190D

2007-06-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
uh, no Ed Booher wrote: You're wanting what $75 for it? On 6/3/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: floor panels are fine, I do not know if the odo works, it smells moldy, needs to be aired out -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91

[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Crack 87 190D on ebay

2007-06-03 Thread Marshall Booth
Mitch Haley wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: I assume that the tilt sunroofs also retract as do the non-tilt ones, and that they open just as wide? Until they break! So the tilt-up S/R was an upgrade when new, but not necessarily a good feature to own 20 years later? I REALLY like the two

[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Come on people..Make an offer..Mann Air Filter for sale C23148

2007-06-03 Thread Sunil Hari
How much are you looking for for this filter? On 6/2/07, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walt-the one Rusty lists for my 90 300D 2.5t is #21048-I will make you an offer if we ascertain that it's the right one. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t

[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Looking for a car

2007-06-03 Thread Sunil Hari
I have a 1992 300D 2.5t that's for sale at the right price - email if interested. On 6/2/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - 1992 300D/2.5 - 1987 300SDL - 1985 300SD - 1987 190D - 195x 180D or 190D ponton Fine choices, all. I wouldn't shy away from any 126 diesel other than the

[MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: ADMIN, spam filters

2007-06-03 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
You can only eat it? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [ SPAM ]

Re: [MBZ] CD Changer

2007-06-03 Thread LarryT
Thanks Kaleb, I have the 2 cables that Becker sells so it sounds like I need the box that Rusty sells - BTW - don't go to any trouble yet - I went back thru my emails and found one from *you* (Thx) with a link to http://www.logjamelectronics.com:80/piembzealp.html which tells me what I

Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Crack 87 190D on ebay

2007-06-03 Thread Marshall Booth
I ain't sending SPAM! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: CD Changer

2007-06-03 Thread John M McIntosh
Ah, wouldn't a iPod/MP3 player and RF transmitter, or having becker add a aux input port to your radio make more $ sense? I'm sure my son's ipod has at least the 83 odd CDs of material on it when he ripped every CD in the house a couple of years ago, and my wife snapped up that livingroom

[MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop
Got a laptop that will not boot, needs OS reinstalled. The internal removable CD/DVD drive will not read a disk. Can I hook an external cd drive up via USB and it will boot from that to reinstall?

[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-03 Thread John M McIntosh
If this is a Mac, you need a firewire connected external drive in order to boot from it. I recall that includes firewire based iPods btw. There is debate that you can boot from a USB drive for a subset of apple machines. Thus try it, it can only work, or not...

[MBZ] OFFLIST Re: Re: Looking for a car

2007-06-03 Thread John Robbins
I know I low-balled you before, but that was all I could afford at the time. By the end of June I should be doing much better so what price are you looking for? And do you still have the pictures posted anywhere? Thanks! John Sunil Hari wrote: I have a 1992 300D 2.5t that's for sale

Re: [MBZ] OFFLIST Re: Re: Looking for a car

2007-06-03 Thread John Robbins
*sigh*... not offlist apparantly. John Robbins wrote: I know I low-balled you before, but that was all I could afford at the time. By the end of June I should be doing much better so what price are you looking for? And do you still have the pictures posted anywhere? Thanks! John

Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-03 Thread Zach
Yes, assuming that the laptop BIOS supports booting from USB devices. you may need to configure the boot order in the BIOS setup. -Zach --- Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a laptop that will not boot, needs OS reinstalled. The internal removable CD/DVD drive will

Re: [MBZ] oooo it might break

2007-06-03 Thread RELNGSON
What opens particularly wide is your wallet when the tilting roofs break.  Which they are more prone to do than the regular roofs. Well, so what? If you avoided buying things that never went wrong, what exactly would you have? My '01 W203 which I drive daily has a tilting glass roof which I

Re: [MBZ] 201 CIS

2007-06-03 Thread RELNGSON
The early 201's also came with CIS instead of CIS/E. An advantage since the idle mixture could be adjusted. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: oooo it might break

2007-06-03 Thread Peter Frederick
The replacement lift angles are much beefier. Keeping the rails and sliders lubricated helps immensely. Peter

[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: 201 CIS

2007-06-03 Thread Peter Frederick
Well, the idle mixture can be adjusted on the later ones too, but the computer will just set it correctly anyway (provided the O2 sensor it good and everything works right). Peter

Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Crack 87 190D on ebay

2007-06-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you mean you dont like spam? Marshall Booth wrote: I ain't sending SPAM! Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76

Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
this is a PC John M McIntosh wrote: If this is a Mac, you need a firewire connected external drive in order to boot from it. I recall that includes firewire based iPods btw. There is debate that you can boot from a USB drive for a subset of apple machines. Thus try it, it can only work,

Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The bios has option for external devices, I assume that will work. Hope so, just bought an external drive and I am cheap, so I dont like to spend money if I dont have to. Zach wrote: Yes, assuming that the laptop BIOS supports booting from USB devices. you may need to configure the boot

[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: Crack 87 190D on ebay

2007-06-03 Thread Zoltan Finks
Spam headquarters is a short drive from here, complete with Spamfest every year. brian vegetarian On 6/3/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you mean you dont like spam? Marshall Booth wrote: I ain't sending SPAM! Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92