Re: [MBZ] I pay $450 to fill up my truck with diesel today

2008-05-22 Thread Kevin Kraly
It is $4.63 in Jefferson IA. It's $4.649 in Los Alamos, NM. $4.759 in Hillsboro, OR today, $131 for 27.7 gallons! RUG hasn't hit $4.00/gal yet! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sp

[MBZ] droolllllll

2008-05-22 Thread Luther
I LOVE the color Just flashy enough to fit me :D http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123&viewitem=&item=270239538050#ebayphotohosting -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx m

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Luther
BBZZTT, WRONG! They're closer to 10%. Remember the email I sent a while back? Exxon ran last year (at record profit) at better than 10%. Luther On Thu, 22 May 2008 21:12:53 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oil companies are making about 4% profit

Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:

2008-05-22 Thread Christopher Kueny
Oh no. Did you get caught up in the lapel-pin thing? Or the mass email that says this or that (swore in on the Koran, won't respect the flag)? Did you ever get the follow up that says "Oops, my bad, it was all a lie." A lot of folks had to send that one out after forwarding the 'Barak w

Re: [MBZ] short block vs. long block - 1983 300TD

2008-05-22 Thread Luther
That is a posibility, since Kaleb traded me his solid 617 block for my cracked 603 head. Luther On Thu, 22 May 2008 08:51:30 -0500, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IF the head on the trashed engine is good, then buy a short > block. If the head has more than a couple of small cracks,

Re: [MBZ] O.T. AZ Weather

2008-05-22 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Bob, Gotta remember Mother Nature is in charge.. I used to post two small statements in my cube (back when I had a cube and a salary).. "Mother Nature is a Bitch ... Father Time is a Bastard" 'nuf said before I get poofed.. Chuck Phoenix AZ On May 22, 2008, at 7:55 P

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread John Harrison
check again: http://www.yucatanliving.com/news/yucatan-news-gas-prices-more.htm -just another tree-hugging environmentalist wacko > > Tom Hargrave wrote: > >> Last I checked it was higher than here. >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [MBZ] O.T. AZ Weather

2008-05-22 Thread Robert Rentfro
Ah yes...why did I move here? I seem to remember in 1981 no jobs to be had in East Peoria, IL. Newly married...wanting a fresh start...no tornados or snow to shovel. Not to mention my employer still pays me well for making electricity. Bob R 50 degrees and raining -Original Message- Fro

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Harry Watkins
This was in IBD. Brazil's state-run oil company has struck oil in ultra-deep waters off the Atlantic coast, near the huge Tupi field it discovered last year, the company said. *Petroleo Brasileiro SA* (nyse: PBR- ne

Re: [MBZ] O.T. AZ Weather

2008-05-22 Thread OK Don
Yes - it's the sacrifice we make so you can see the cactus bloom once a year --- Remind me why you live there? And why I live here, come to think about it??? > All you others can't believe how nice it is for us to smell rain. > > Trouble is, when we have weather it usually means tornados for Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep OK Don wrote: > If the price goes back down, we'll be back into blind complacency and > nothing new will be developed. We won't change without prolonged pain > - it's human nature. > >> No, that will not solve the long >> term problem but it will at least help now until we can get alternativ

Re: [MBZ] I pay $450 to fill up my truck with diesel today

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no joke!! Loren Faeth wrote: > Uh, Kaleb. You could have bought a whole, running MB for that! > > > At 08:47 PM 5/22/2008, you wrote: >> 450+ later, and Im set. > > Loren Faeth > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list spon

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
hell I dont know Mitch Haley wrote: > Which contract? July crude light (CL) settled at 130.81 on NYMEX today, > trading about 131 this evening. > http://quotes.ino.com/exchanges/futboard/ > > "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: >> yea, crude ended at 133 today. Holy crap. There is another 20 cents >> r

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Royce Engler
Peter said The main reason oil production declined in the US is that the holes are dry -- lots of drilling and pumping around here, but the stuff that comes out of the ground looks like road tar and is 5% or more sulfur. They can't get oil out of most of the older fields in Texas, nothin

[MBZ] O.T. AZ Weather

2008-05-22 Thread Robert Rentfro
Mr. Jim, Chuck. Can you believe this weather we're having right now? It was 111 two days ago on my back porch and now it's 60 and raining..and it's the end of May. Wacky. All you others can't believe how nice it is for us to smell rain. Trouble is, when we have weather it usually means tornados

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
Typo, I think -- I am using a laptop and it is difficult to see fine text -- same TAIL numbers. I flew in those very same aircraft. But, I was in my 20s then and I am now in my 50s, wondering what in the hell I was thinking, doing that for $10K a year. I did get $60 a month bonus for being in fligh

[MBZ] The ball

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
Same tail numbers. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > > > When you do, find the USCG part with the HU-16E and the HH-3F. My butt > has > > been in both of these very same airframes they have there > > You flew in those specific craf

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: > > When you do, find the USCG part with the HU-16E and the HH-3F. My butt has > been in both of these very same airframes they have there You flew in those specific craft or in others of the same type? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For ne

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Which contract? July crude light (CL) settled at 130.81 on NYMEX today, trading about 131 this evening. http://quotes.ino.com/exchanges/futboard/ "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > > yea, crude ended at 133 today. Holy crap. There is another 20 cents > right there. _

Re: [MBZ] short block vs. long block - 1983 300TD

2008-05-22 Thread Mitch Haley
I almost forgot. The body donor is the car that was run out of oil until it wouldn't run, right? The only thing worth saving on that engine is probably the SLS pump and fuel system. If you bought a short block, then you'd still need a cam, cam bearings, rocker arms, valves, guides (and those s

Re: [MBZ] I pay $450 to fill up my truck with diesel today

2008-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
Yea, but you get to live in California. (sic) On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 07:14:46PM -0600, Craig McCluskey wrote: > > On Thu, 22 May 2008 19:53:33 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > It is $4.63 in Jeffer

Re: [MBZ] Benz/VW heresy

2008-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
If owned an SD, I'd be suicidal. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Im fixing to start driving my 190D soon. Not my favorite but the way > things are I need it > > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > Gene came to Jefferson on Sunday and pulled the starter (core

Re: [MBZ] I pay $450 to fill up my truck with diesel today

2008-05-22 Thread Kevin
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 07:14:46PM -0600, Craig McCluskey wrote: > On Thu, 22 May 2008 19:53:33 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > It is $4.63 in Jefferson IA. > > It's $4.649 in Los Alamos, NM. $5.19 in Truckee, CA, 5.01 near Jackson, CA.

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Peter Frederick
There isn't enough oil in ANWAR to make a dent in the US demand -- a couple years or so at the rate we burn it now. Sadly, we ARE running out of oil. Should be quite a ride My uncle (geologist for Phillips) was a bit off -- he thought we'd start going dry in the 90's. Peter __

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Peter Frederick
The main reason oil production declined in the US is that the holes are dry -- lots of drilling and pumping around here, but the stuff that comes out of the ground looks like road tar and is 5% or more sulfur. They can't get oil out of most of the older fields in Texas, nothing comes up ev

Re: [MBZ] I pay $450 to fill up my truck with diesel today

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, thats why I have this big tank, when I have to go out of town hauling, I can use the cheaper OK diesel instead of having to pay more out of state Wonko the Sane wrote: > It is $4.63 in Jefferson IA. > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> S

Re: [MBZ] I pay $450 to fill up my truck with diesel today

2008-05-22 Thread OK Don
Probably with some Diesel left in the tank! Maybe the fuel in the tanks will become worth more than the cars! On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Uh, Kaleb. You could have bought a whole, running MB for that! > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are t

Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yep, you have these foreign countries that are going to drill in the gulf. We cant drill 40 or whatever miles of the coast, but these people are drilling, what 45-50 miles off the coast, getting "our" oil. When are these people going to wake up? Chuck Landenberger wrote: > Hi all. >

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
computer engineering On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps I was not paying attention, but what sort of work are you in? > > John Robbins wrote: > > Wonko the Sane wrote: > >> The beach is very nice there, so if possible spend the money and get a

Re: [MBZ] and you know a funny ending to this oil story?

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
AS I have said before, China is going from bicycles to cars, we are going from cars to bicycles. And yes,t hey are buying alot of those big luxery cars and suvs Gary Hurst wrote: > the streets of shanghai are crowded with gas guzzling luxury iron while we > go back to riding bicycles. > > no

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Perhaps I was not paying attention, but what sort of work are you in? John Robbins wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: >> The beach is very nice there, so if possible spend the money and get a room >> as close as possible to the water. If you are on a budget, there used to be >> (in 1981) lots of "chea

Re: [MBZ] Benz/VW heresy

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im fixing to start driving my 190D soon. Not my favorite but the way things are I need it Wonko the Sane wrote: > Gene came to Jefferson on Sunday and pulled the starter (core). He found a > rebuilt one on eBay. Think he is going to install the new starter as soon as > he can and then take the 19

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread Steve Bailey
Also, the Blue Angels practice at the Air Station on Tuesday and Wednesday at 8:30 am. I was there about 6 weeks ago and went both days. Convince the boss to have the meeting at the museum. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the S

Re: [MBZ] short block vs. long block - 1983 300TD

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, 85 is different than 81-84. Rolf wrote: > I will buy the old head from you. If you want a good engine and don't > care about $ as much go with Metric Motors. 85 is the same as the > others, the SLS head is what makes it special. With a shortblock you > will be reusing the old head. > > -Rolf

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread OK Don
If the price goes back down, we'll be back into blind complacency and nothing new will be developed. We won't change without prolonged pain - it's human nature. > No, that will not solve the long > term problem but it will at least help now until we can get alternatives > in place. -- OK Don, K

Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
its probably not Donald Snook wrote: > Let's hope this article is wrong. > > http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080521145247.aspx > > > Donald H. Snook > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymb

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its been at that point for a while now. BUT, you got the liberal envirnomentalists who dont want us to produce that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If my old memory serves, during the energy crisis of the early 70's, we were > told that if the price of oil went up by some magic figure {Maybe 25%} th

Re: [MBZ] I pay $450 to fill up my truck with diesel today

2008-05-22 Thread Loren Faeth
Uh, Kaleb. You could have bought a whole, running MB for that! At 08:47 PM 5/22/2008, you wrote: >450+ later, and Im set. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
http://www.uscg.mil/d1/Units/gruwh/stachatham/CGHelo1432.htm I was navigator in the first plane on-scene and found the wreckage on radar, and vectored our plane in. Snowing too heavy to see anything w/out radar. I walked the pilot in to under one mile (using radar) before we could see the helo --

[MBZ] O'Steens in St. Augustine

2008-05-22 Thread Bill Ringgold
Someone on the list asked to be remembered to a staff person at O'Steens, but I have slept since then. My Darling wife and I are planning on having dinner there tomorrow night, so whoever it was I'll be happy to pass along greetings if you will repeat them. BillR Jacksonville FL, but currently

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well we sure as heck are not in control of that oil Mitch Haley wrote: > Tom Hargrave wrote: >> I suspect that it would not be such a good idea to burn off our own oil >> reserves. > > Funny, I used to use a firewood analogy to illustrate "dependence on > foreign oil". If you can burn your tr

Re: [MBZ] short block vs. long block - 1983 300TD

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
your best bet would be to put the engine in from the rusty wagon. Its value is in the engine. andrew strasfogel wrote: > As feared, my "new" rust free 1983 wagon does indeed have a bad engine. > :((I was thinking of taking the drive train from my decent running 1983 > rusty 300TD, but this s

Re: [MBZ] just sold my 85 190d manny

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you sold it way too cheap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > He gets it tomorrow but I already miss it. I feel like I'm losing a friend. > its silver/blu w/blu int 177k everything works but AC and cond is good. It > has > all receipts since new and window sticker. Is $3300 fair? > > __

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
by then hopefully we have moved on and developed alternatives and dont need to burn oil, or as much oil anymore. Tom Hargrave wrote: > Reminds me of a friend who has about 20 acres of woods outside of Morgan > City, AL. He heats with wood & would only burn dead wood off his lot. Any > additional

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That brings up another point. All these people bitching about oil companies making all this money. Who do you think owns these oil companies? Stockholders. WHo do you think these stockholders are? Me, you, anybody who has a retirement account, investment account, pension plan etc. Harry

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
AMEN!! Loren Faeth wrote: > The problem is not the oil companies, although I agree with Mitch > about compensation. As Pogo said, "the enemy is us." > > When are we going to wake up (as Americans) and throw out the current > pols and elect some that will allow us to drill our own oil, pump our

Re: [MBZ] I pay $450 to fill up my truck with diesel today

2008-05-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 22 May 2008 19:53:33 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is $4.63 in Jefferson IA. It's $4.649 in Los Alamos, NM. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oil companies are making about 4% profit. That aint much folks. There is a big different between a profit and a profit margin. Many people dont seem to understand the difference. Tom Hargrave wrote: > 36 Billion out of how much total cash flow? > > Compare them to other profitable businesses

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If you want oil to stand a chance of going down, the tree hugging environmentalist wackos need to back off and let us drill our own oil in ANWR, off the cost of florida and california, and other places. Its just insane we have oil we cant get. No, that will not solve the long term problem but

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
When you do, find the USCG part with the HU-16E and the HH-3F. My butt has been in both of these very same airframes they have there (up in the air, not as part of the static display). I sat in the H3 when we visited the museum and started to cry -- Debbie didn't understand but I explained i

Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices!

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
that and the fact that the middle east is just about out of oil. Tom Hargrave wrote: > There are only a few companies refining oil in the states and supply is so > close to demand that it really does not matter who you are buying from. It > all goes into the same pipelines & comes out the other en

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, crude ended at 133 today. Holy crap. There is another 20 cents right there. Tom Hargrave wrote: > And its going up. > > Thanks, Tom > 256-656-1924 > > -Original Message- > From: "Wilton Strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "mercedes" > Sent: 5/21/08 2:33 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Fue

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Tom Hargrave
You've got it right. And as a result of price controls and later taxes on production, oil production declined in this country and increased elsewhere, leding to our dependence on foreign oil. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercede

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread Loren Faeth
There was a place on Orange beach, which is technically Alabama that was reasonable, and well situated near a beach park, and block or so away from a nice seafood restaurant. It was operated by Brett Robinson Real estate. Call them and ask about their hotel on the beach. It was really a 1 or

Re: [MBZ] I pay $450 to fill up my truck with diesel today

2008-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
It is $4.63 in Jefferson IA. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I finally got my 100 gallon tank installed in the back of my truck. > Diesel just went up to like 4.49 everywhere around here. The walmart > in town is still at 4.29. So, I think its

[MBZ] I pay $450 to fill up my truck with diesel today

2008-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So I finally got my 100 gallon tank installed in the back of my truck. Diesel just went up to like 4.49 everywhere around here. The walmart in town is still at 4.29. So, I think its a good time to fill the tank before they go up. I get there, and there are 2 large school buses filling up, 3

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
Here is a MUST VISIT place (even if you order a Pepsi). http://www.mcguiresirishpub.com/ On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:18 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > The beach is very nice there, so if possible spend the money and get a > room > > as close as possible to

Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?

2008-05-22 Thread John Robbins
Peter Frederick wrote: > What has happened is that the "easy" oil is pretty much gone -- no > more drilling a hole and having it geyser out at you. This is also why Dubai has gone crazy. They know their oil revenue is about up so they are using the money they made to start a tourism based e

Re: [MBZ] and you know a funny ending to this oil story?

2008-05-22 Thread Rich Thomas
You know what else is funny? Or maybe ironic, I don't know. I was listening to the NPR reports from the Chinese earthquake area, they were talking to someone who was buying a tent. Tents are in real short supply in China so they say. Anyway, this person paid the equivalent of $130 for a ten

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread John Robbins
Peter Frederick wrote: > Horrible environmental mess and it takes several barrels of oil to > produce one barrel from the shale Seems to me like they should stop getting oil from there then. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Peter Frederick
We are burning oil from oil shale, as fast as they can dig it up in Canda. Horrible environmental mess and it takes several barrels of oil to produce one barrel from the shale Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Rich Thomas
The stunningly intelligent and well-spoken Maxine Waters from Collyfornya suggested today that the gummint nationalize (though she could not come up with that word in her extremely erudite questioning/commenting) the oil companies if they keep making money, or gas prices stay high, or oil price

Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?

2008-05-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Well, I read on MSNBC today that an oil industry analyst expects Mexico, currently our second largest oil supplier, to be importing oil within five years, maybe sooner depending on when the Gulf fields stop producing. There is essentially no really recoverable oil left un-tapped in the US

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power?

2008-05-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Ha ha! Neither is engineering, where in a situation like this there are so many things that all interact. I suspect that's why the Nomad never went into production -- it was fabulously efficient, but only when it actually worked Peter ___ http://www.

Re: [MBZ] More on expensive oil

2008-05-22 Thread R A Bennell
I paid $1.329 in Sioux Narrows (at the lake) for a can of gas for the boat. I used to think that a carry one boat fuel tank cost about $20 with the oil. Now it is about $30. Good thing I don't have any big outboard motors. I don't know if I could feed a 125HP. (Yeah, I know that is not big anymor

Re: [MBZ] short block vs. long block - 1983 300TD

2008-05-22 Thread R A Bennell
If you are satisfied that the engine in your existing car is good, then just swap it and send the rusty body to the great beyond. Save any other parts that might be useful and be done with it. You may not be any better off with a rebuilt engine and it won't be any less expensive. Swapping the wh

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Go to: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90142714 and click on "Listen Now" Goes back to the Carter administration.. Very good explanation Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On May 22, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Gary Hurst wrote: >> >> your dates don't

Re: [MBZ] short block vs. long block - 1983 300TD

2008-05-22 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > If my mechanic does the work what would be his extra labor to do the short > block vs. engine replacement? Probably no more than his charge to remove the replacement engine from your old car. If you're paying labor it gets expensive in a hurry no matter which way you

Re: [MBZ] and you know a funny ending to this oil story?

2008-05-22 Thread R A Bennell
Sort of sounds like the building of America doesn't it? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] and you know a funny ending to this oil story

Re: [MBZ] short block vs. long block - 1983 300TD

2008-05-22 Thread andrew strasfogel
If my mechanic does the work what would be his extra labor to do the short block vs. engine replacement? How can he tell whether the head is still good? On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would think the hole is smaller not larger as the bearing required > some

Re: [MBZ] short block vs. long block - 1983 300TD

2008-05-22 Thread Rolf
I would think the hole is smaller not larger as the bearing required some trimming for the manual swap? -Rolf Mitch Haley wrote: > Rolf wrote: > >> 85 is the same as the others, the SLS head is what makes it special. >> > > 85 crank is special too. larger centering hole for the torque con

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Allan Streib
"Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Who gave us the phrase "windfall profits tax"? I'm thinking Carter or > Raygun. Good history at http://tinyurl.com/yqlltw "...Ultimately, however, it fell to President Jimmy Carter to make the bargain stick. In April 1979 he introduced plans to lift pri

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Tom Hargrave
The 1973 oil crisis began on October 17, 1973, when the members of Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries (OAPEC, consisting of the Arab members of OPEC plus Egypt and Syria) announced, as a result of the ongoing Yom Kippur War, that they would no longer ship oil to nations that had sup

Re: [MBZ] and you know a funny ending to this oil story?

2008-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
I didn't realize that the Chinese government was Republican. (Sorry, couldn't resist.) On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Rarely mentioned in the news stories of China's supposed economic > miracle is the fact that those luxury cars and the gas to

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote: > > your dates don't seem to work on this story > > maybe if you said "johnson" or "nixon" instead of carter, it could work out Who gave us the phrase "windfall profits tax"? I'm thinking Carter or Raygun. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

[MBZ] article that says that gas/oil may be going down

2008-05-22 Thread Glenn Brown
LET'S HOPE! G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/merc

[MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Wilton Strickland
I haven't forgotten about the RRBV's (so called SUV's); I've been fussing about 'em for years! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or chan

Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?

2008-05-22 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hi all. Try reading this article by Cal Thomas, who puts it pretty plainly. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26479 We are today paying for the mistakes of yesteryears. Policies have been driven by small advocate groups. Note that Hurricane Katrina did NOT cause any di

Re: [MBZ] and you know a funny ending to this oil story?

2008-05-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the streets of shanghai are crowded with gas guzzling luxury iron while we > go back to riding bicycles. > > now that is irony, no? > Rarely mentioned in the news stories of China's supposed economic miracle is the fact that

Re: [MBZ] and you know a funny ending to this oil story?

2008-05-22 Thread Allan Streib
"Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > the streets of shanghai are crowded with gas guzzling luxury iron while we > go back to riding bicycles. > > now that is irony, no? LOL is that what we get for outsourcing everything to China? Allan -- 1983 300D ___

[MBZ] and you know a funny ending to this oil story?

2008-05-22 Thread Gary Hurst
the streets of shanghai are crowded with gas guzzling luxury iron while we go back to riding bicycles. now that is irony, no? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!

2008-05-22 Thread Gary Hurst
your dates don't seem to work on this story maybe if you said "johnson" or "nixon" instead of carter, it could work out 2008/5/21 Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Last I checked it was higher than here. > > Carter put price control in place in the 70s. Oil companies were only > allowed to cha

Re: [MBZ] MSU wins again!

2008-05-22 Thread Allan Streib
"Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > "Would you buy production versions of any of these vehicles? When fuel spikes > north of $6 a gallon, these Challenge X science projects will look mighty > tempting." > > Nope, I'll be less interested in huge $60,000 30mpg passenger trucks > with $6 fue

Re: [MBZ] More on expensive oil

2008-05-22 Thread E M
I filled up today. Was $1.27 per litre for regular. I take the premium stuff. Ed 300E 2008/5/22 R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think the issue is not so much the price of oil but how fast it has > increased. > > I am 56 years old and have lived my whole life in Canada so the numbers I >

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Price!

2008-05-22 Thread Gary Hurst
holy crap explain to me again how there is no inflation? On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ANGELO GIAIMO wrote: > > Also, if crude is traded in dollars, and we've devalued our currency, how > > much has cude gone up just due to that? > > Well, not too man

Re: [MBZ] MSU wins again!

2008-05-22 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote: > > http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/05/mississippi-sta.html "Would you buy production versions of any of these vehicles? When fuel spikes north of $6 a gallon, these Challenge X science projects will look mighty tempting." Nope, I'll be less interested in huge $60,000 30mpg

[MBZ] More on expensive oil

2008-05-22 Thread R A Bennell
I think the issue is not so much the price of oil but how fast it has increased. I am 56 years old and have lived my whole life in Canada so the numbers I am going to quote relate to my experience. Bear with me. I remember paying (and complaining about) $0.57 for an imperial gallon of regular g

[MBZ] MSU wins again!

2008-05-22 Thread John Robbins
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/05/mississippi-sta.html http://domesticfuel.com/2008/05/21/bulldogs-biodiesel-dominate-challenge-x/ http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/archives/2008/05/challenge_x_cro_1.html I wasn't in the competition, but I work closely with the folks who are and they definitely deserv

Re: [MBZ] Parking Prawl and Parking Brake 190D

2008-05-22 Thread R A Bennell
I think it can also be a problem if the car is hit while parked. Don't know if having the parking brake set will save it but if the parking brake works well, it may. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Price!

2008-05-22 Thread Mitch Haley
ANGELO GIAIMO wrote: > Also, if crude is traded in dollars, and we've devalued our currency, how > much has cude gone up just due to that? Well, not too many years ago a euro was 80 cents. Now it's $1.57. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official l

[MBZ] Fuel Price!

2008-05-22 Thread ANGELO GIAIMO
Are we forgetting that in the last 10 years or so, everyone's been buying those big SUV's and Minivans that get 10-15 MPG instead of smaller, more efficient vehicles? Prices are up because of demand. If we conserve and demand drops, I'm sure prices will follow.hopefully. That's not to say th

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread John Robbins
Wonko the Sane wrote: > The beach is very nice there, so if possible spend the money and get a room > as close as possible to the water. If you are on a budget, there used to be > (in 1981) lots of "cheaper" places close to the Naval Air Station. Work is paying for it, and they don't have a proble

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
The beach is very nice there, so if possible spend the money and get a room as close as possible to the water. If you are on a budget, there used to be (in 1981) lots of "cheaper" places close to the Naval Air Station. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:41 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm

Re: [MBZ] Benz/VW heresy

2008-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
Gene came to Jefferson on Sunday and pulled the starter (core). He found a rebuilt one on eBay. Think he is going to install the new starter as soon as he can and then take the 190D back to Des Moines. It is definitely his best MPG option, since his other vehicles are two pickups and a large Chrysl

Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?

2008-05-22 Thread Donald Snook
Tom H. wrote: "His analysis is flawed because it's based on an extension of the current supply & demand." Here's an article that says that gas/oil may be going down. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/05/22/ccoil122.xml Donald H. Snook

[MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?

2008-05-22 Thread John Robbins
I'm hopefully going to be in Pensacola for business the week of June 2nd... Anybody want to meet up for dinner or something? Also, if anybody has any good hotel recommendations I'd appreciate those. :) Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts

Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?

2008-05-22 Thread Donald Snook
Gary wrote: "something is so ridiculous about this whole oil thing. for years, oil is cheap and plentiful and the suddenly we are told "woops, there is no oil" and fuel suddenly triples in price." That is a myth that the prices are because there is a shortage of oil. The huge increase in the

Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?

2008-05-22 Thread Gary Hurst
and all teh markets ignored the message for years and then one day woke up saying "hey, there's a china out there!" it's silly to me. btw, why the hell doesn't VW offer that little wagon/suv in diesel to the usa? On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We knew

Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?

2008-05-22 Thread Donald Snook
Allan wrote: "Would you continue your current driving habits at $12/gallon? If people won't pay that much for gas, the market won't support that price." I will NOT continue my driving habits at $12/gallon. I will car pool with some of the others at work, or I will drop my wife off at work, or

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