Re: [MBZ] New thread: Worst cars we have ever owned

2008-07-17 Thread Kevin Kraly
My parents had a 1973 Dodge Coronet Wagon that had nothing but problems! The ignition system was temperamental at best either bucking and serging, or refusing to start. It went through a couple of ignition modules which only helped for a short time. It leaked like a sieve, so throughout the ra

[MBZ] ACC fun!

2008-07-17 Thread Peter Frederick
Cross your fingers, I'm pumping down the 300D, finally. The hose set with the filter in the suction line is iffy, I hope it doesn't crimp shut. May have to switch back to a bayonet style clamp filter there, the crimp one is too long for the hose. Oh well. Pumped down super fast, the pump

Re: [MBZ] worst cars

2008-07-17 Thread Peter Frederick
1962 Oldsmobile Dynamic 88 4-door hardtop. Went way to fast for the sorry joke of a braking system (my VW had bigger brake shoes, I think), ate gas like crazy, and had that horrible Turbo Rotomatic tranny with reverse next to low, impossible to adjust the reverse lockout so that you actual

Re: [MBZ] MB immortality?

2008-07-17 Thread RELNGSON
> ..Maybe I just have high expectations, because most everything else in a  > diesel Mercedes will keep working like it should for 40+ years?.. > OhmyGodinheaven. Is this (whatever it is) your first MB? NOTHING in an MB works for forty years. Nothing with moving parts at least. RLE

Re: [MBZ] New thread: Worst cars we have ever owned

2008-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have no doubt Wonko the Sane wrote: > I own the movie -- watch it frequently. > > D. > > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> and having seen "The Gods Must Be Crazy".] >> > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300

Re: [MBZ] I got something done today for a change

2008-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep. Would have to be painted to match though. OK Don wrote: > Front fenders are easy to change on these --- > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It actually does have decent paint, but it does have a dent in the RF >> fender. Have not checked int

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: FW: That moment just before the pain begins...]

2008-07-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:57:16 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Original Message > Subject: FW: That moment just before the pain begins... > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:37:08 -0500 > From: Dan Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: 'Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] New thread: Worst cars we have ever owned

2008-07-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:36:42 -0500 Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not just for Mercedes. What is the worst car you have ever > owned? 1987 Ford LTD bought from our next door neighbor while I was in graduate school for something to use while the Benz was being re-fitted. A/C d

Re: [MBZ] I got something done today for a change

2008-07-17 Thread OK Don
Front fenders are easy to change on these --- On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It actually does have decent paint, but it does have a dent in the RF > fender. Have not checked into the ac status but yet, I will sell it cheap. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO N

Re: [MBZ] New thread: Worst cars we have ever owned

2008-07-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
I own the movie -- watch it frequently. D. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and having seen "The Gods Must Be Crazy".] > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to con

Re: [MBZ] New thread: Worst cars we have ever owned

2008-07-17 Thread Wonko the Sane
'71 (I think) Chevy Vega wagon. Great little green car but it had this habit of having an epileptic seizure at 60 mph -- where it would suddenly lose power and just about throw everyone through the front windshield. Never did figure out if it was spark or fuel. It was also one of my most fun cars

Re: [MBZ] Where do I find the Gross Vehicle weight?

2008-07-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
Unfortunately, the car is in the shop and I can't drive it w/o the tags. Fortunately, I have a THIRD 1983 300TD title (the car went to the crusher) that states GVW as 3700 lbs. (MD title). I doubt DC DMV has books that go back that far to look up the weight. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Ed Bo

Re: [MBZ] I got something done today for a change

2008-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It actually does have decent paint, but it does have a dent in the RF fender. Have not checked into the ac status but yet, I will sell it cheap. Donald Snook wrote: > Kaleb wrote: "I bought this dead 86 300E a couple of weeks ago. Would not > start, figured fuel pump. Put a new fuel pump on i

Re: [MBZ] New thread: Worst cars we have ever owned

2008-07-17 Thread Bill R
No question about it for me - my late 80's Vanagon GL, named the Anti-Christ after but a few trips in it [and having seen "The Gods Must Be Crazy".] I bought it from an engineer, and he sure smiled a lot when he took my money. Interior and exterior were pretty good, but the AC, engine and just abo

Re: [MBZ] I got something done today for a change

2008-07-17 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: "I bought this dead 86 300E a couple of weeks ago. Would not start, figured fuel pump. Put a new fuel pump on it, started right up and runs great." Is the 124 with decent/good paint and working a/c that you are going to sell to me cheap? Donald H. Snook

[MBZ] worst cars

2008-07-17 Thread Dan Weeks
Prolly a pinto wagon I had for a very short time. Bought for $200 with a leaky gas tank in January in Iowa. Changed it out in the garage in below 0 temps with one from a junker, which also leaked. Got a third and installed that. Filthiest stinkiest coldest job I've ever done. When I finishe

Re: [MBZ] New thread: Worst cars we have ever owned

2008-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond
I had to think about this a second as I've had all pretty good cars. The worst would have been my '81 300TD. I bought it for $300 which is exactly what it was worth. I wasn't capable of doing very many repairs myself so it cost me a mint with my Indy and was a basket case from beginning to end.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Tempmatic ACC Rant

2008-07-17 Thread Tyler Backman
That much? I'm not complaining about a specific car, just MBZ ACC in general. I'm not picking the 190D Turbo up until the 25th, but I'm willing to bet it's ACC problems are something simple since the owner's already replaced all of the expensive stuff. Since he said it started delaying going

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Tempmatic ACC Rant

2008-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well, Idont want you to be in such a mess, I will give you $500 for that car. Tyler Backman wrote: > Maybe I just have high expectations, because most everything else in a > diesel Mercedes > will keep working like it should for 40+ years? > > Tyler > > On Jul 17, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Kaleb C. S

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Tempmatic ACC Rant

2008-07-17 Thread Tyler Backman
Maybe I just have high expectations, because most everything else in a diesel Mercedes will keep working like it should for 40+ years? Tyler On Jul 17, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > yea, that was quite a rant. Keep in mind the system worked just > like it > should for probabl

Re: [MBZ] I got something done today for a change

2008-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you bastard OK Don wrote: > OK. > FYI - I got 32.6mpg on the last tank - daily commute to OKCplus one > trip to the lake. > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, I think my next items to buy are cutting torch and welder. >> Actually, I think I ca

Re: [MBZ] I got something done today for a change

2008-07-17 Thread OK Don
OK. FYI - I got 32.6mpg on the last tank - daily commute to OKCplus one trip to the lake. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I think my next items to buy are cutting torch and welder. > Actually, I think I can drill out the bolts and get a saw zal

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Tempmatic ACC Rant

2008-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, that was quite a rant. Keep in mind the system worked just like it should for probably 20 years. That seems pretty good to me. Tyler Backman wrote: > Any idea why 80s Mercedes climate control is so complicated and so > unreliable? > > I have owned tons of Volvo 760s as much as 24 years

[MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Tempmatic ACC Rant

2008-07-17 Thread Tyler Backman
Any idea why 80s Mercedes climate control is so complicated and so unreliable? I have owned tons of Volvo 760s as much as 24 years old, and the climate control in them always works flawlessly without maintenance for decades. It consists of a single self contained control unit and a temp sens

Re: [MBZ] I got something done today for a change

2008-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well, I think my next items to buy are cutting torch and welder. Actually, I think I can drill out the bolts and get a saw zall in there and split the pipe from the inside and get it out of the other pipe, then it will just bolt right back up on the car. Its already approved OK Don wrote: > OK

Re: [MBZ] I got something done today for a change

2008-07-17 Thread OK Don
OK - that should work as well (I've been known to do the same). I just figured that with the shop you have, you'd have a welder --- um - approve the pdf of Wilton's write-up. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well I dont have a welder, so I usually jus

Re: [MBZ] I got something done today for a change

2008-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I dont have a welder, so I usually just use those short connector pieces with clamps. OK Don wrote: > Cut them off to the "right" length, then weld the pipes together. > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> how to get the cut off pipe out of the

[MBZ] cheap SDL with pimp wheels and a trap

2008-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SDL-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series_W0QQitemZ250271378804QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 3

Re: [MBZ] I got something done today for a change

2008-07-17 Thread OK Don
Cut them off to the "right" length, then weld the pipes together. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > how to get the cut off pipe out of the > other pipe. May just cut off the proper ends and just spice it with > those exhaust flanges things at the mcpa

Re: [MBZ] 124 antenna R&R summary

2008-07-17 Thread OK Don
Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 124antenna.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 409931 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] New thread: Worst cars we have ever owned

2008-07-17 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is not just for Mercedes. What is the worst car you have ever > owned? Worst car my parents owned was probably a '77 Buick Opel (rebadged izuzu). Would do about 60 wide open in 4th gear with the motor screaming. Also very prone to rust despite (o

[MBZ] I got something done today for a change

2008-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I bought this dead 86 300E a couple of weeks ago. Would not start, figured fuel pump. Put a new fuel pump on it, started right up and runs great. Next messing with the exhaust. As in, the rear muffler is missing. Spent about 2 hours pulling one off a parts car. What a swine of a job. Sho

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL blower fuse

2008-07-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
Speed regulator? You mean the "porcupine?" That was new 5 years ago, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL blower fuse > Ouch! > > check for bad

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Allan Streib
"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 40 kW = 43 HP = the perfect size for a 60s VW bus, plus plenty of > room for lead acid batteries & an internally mounted diesel powered > generator I have a Vanagon and thought it might be a good platform for a hybrid conversion. I'd want at l

[MBZ] New thread: Worst cars we have ever owned

2008-07-17 Thread Donald Snook
This is not just for Mercedes. What is the worst car you have ever owned? My worst was my first car. It was decent car when my brother bought it, but he wore it out and ruined it. I bought it from him for $200 in 1988. It was a 1978 Oldsmobile Delta 88. It was light blue. Instead of the 350

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL blower fuse

2008-07-17 Thread Peter Frederick
Ouch! check for bad connections on the blower then -- causes excessive current draw. I suppose it could be a shorted speed regulator, too. Peter On Jul 17, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Wilton Strickland wrote: > My first thought, too, Peter. What is most upsettinjg about that, > though, > is that I

Re: [MBZ] 12 Volt Battery/Alternator Tester

2008-07-17 Thread John Robbins
Rich Thomas wrote: > They sell those for $2 or $3 too, I have bought 3 or 4 and they are > great to just leave here and there for when you need one quick. They > actually work quite well, so far. I wish I would have gotten in on one of those deals... whenever I go by there (nearest one is 2+ h

Re: [MBZ] 12 Volt Battery/Alternator Tester

2008-07-17 Thread Rich Thomas
They sell those for $2 or $3 too, I have bought 3 or 4 and they are great to just leave here and there for when you need one quick. They actually work quite well, so far. --R John Robbins wrote: > Rich Thomas wrote: > >> Got a Harbor Freight email, they have this thing for $6 down from $10.

Re: [MBZ] 12 Volt Battery/Alternator Tester

2008-07-17 Thread John Robbins
Rich Thomas wrote: > Got a Harbor Freight email, they have this thing for $6 down from $10. > No idea if it works or what, but for those who have battery issues for > $6 it might be useful to have one laying around. IMO, your money would be better spent on a multimeter. John __

[MBZ] 12 Volt Battery/Alternator Tester

2008-07-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Got a Harbor Freight email, they have this thing for $6 down from $10. No idea if it works or what, but for those who have battery issues for $6 it might be useful to have one laying around. Of course if you go there to buy it, you'll end up buying all kinds of other stuff too, so it turns ou

Re: [MBZ] mercedes guide

2008-07-17 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Nitske's book(s) does that. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2

Re: [MBZ] 124 antenna R&R summary

2008-07-17 Thread Harry Watkins
not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080717/0edc775c/attachment.doc > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts ema

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Where do I find the Gross Vehicle weight?Plymouth/Dodge

2008-07-17 Thread Rich Thomas
You shoulda put that FARGO badge on there now donchaknow ohyeah. --R Wilton Strickland wrote: > For the nearly 15 yrs I had my "Plymouth" van, whenever I needed a part for > it I told the parts clerk, "74 Dodge." They couldn't find the part > otherwise. I even removed the badges from the front

Re: [MBZ] Where do I find the Gross Vehicle weight?

2008-07-17 Thread Ed Booher
Yeah, the GVW should be on a tag either under the hood and attached at the radiator support, or inside the drivers door. I'd look under the hood first. EdB On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How 'bout a paper rubbing of the mfgr's data plate on the

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Where do I find the Gross Vehicle weight?Plymouth/Dodge

2008-07-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
For the nearly 15 yrs I had my "Plymouth" van, whenever I needed a part for it I told the parts clerk, "74 Dodge." They couldn't find the part otherwise. I even removed the badges from the front and rear of it and drove it for 14 yrs as "Anonymous." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Bi

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Where do I find the Gross Vehicle weight? Plymouth/Dodge

2008-07-17 Thread Bill R
My FIL was friends with the Dodge dealer down the street from his home. His new Dodge came from the factory with a Plymouth badge on one end and Dodge on the other [can't recall which way]. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton S

Re: [MBZ] Nozzle Rage

2008-07-17 Thread Loren Faeth
How true! Drill here! At 01:04 PM 7/17/2008, you wrote: >http://www.nozzlerage.com/ > >Good stuff. > > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscrib

[MBZ] OT: Abortion pics on display in down town Atlanta.

2008-07-17 Thread Rolf
I am completely outraged that my children are allowed to see this crap in *PUBLIC*. You cant show this crap on TV why in public? http://winmutt.com/images/antiabortion/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.c

[MBZ] Nozzle Rage

2008-07-17 Thread John Robbins
http://www.nozzlerage.com/ Good stuff. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinf

[MBZ] Fw: Where do I find the Gross Vehicle weight?

2008-07-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
33 years ago I bought a 74 Plymouth van in MI and registered it in NC. The van was the first Plymouth van sold by this Dodge dealer the MI UP. When I applied for NC title, NCDMV saw that the MI title had first stated DODGE; then that had been X'd over and PLYMOUTH typed in beside it. They asked

Re: [MBZ] Chassis typ and engine typ chart

2008-07-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I forgot how attractive the 123 coupes were. In fact, I really like the looks > of all of the modern coupes - > 123, 114, 126, 124, I agree, especially about the 126. Somebody should seal a pristine '91 560SEC in a time c

Re: [MBZ] Chassis typ and engine typ chart

2008-07-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: > FWIW, I learned almost everything I know about MBUSA available > chassis/engine combinations from Frank Barrett's "Illustrated > Mercedes-Benz Buyer's Guide" although it's full of mistakes too (and > the guy has so little love for diesels that he banishes them to an > appe

[MBZ] 124 antenna R&R summary

2008-07-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
scrubbed... Name: 124antenna.doc Type: application/msword Size: 300544 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080717/0edc775c/attachment.doc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list spon

Re: [MBZ] Chassis typ and engine typ chart

2008-07-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:38 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's the one I usually refer to -- quick and easy, with pictures. >> >> One source is: >> http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html I see at least one error there (the 124 cabriolet was available not only in 1994-'95 but also p

Re: [MBZ] Where do I find the Gross Vehicle weight?

2008-07-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
How 'bout a paper rubbing of the mfgr's data plate on the driver's door pillar? Wilton - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] Where do I find the Gross Vehicle weight? > I n

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiosity

2008-07-17 Thread Rich Thomas
NPR had a story about this kid the other day, that was actually quite unsympathetic, though the teller seemed to think the "torture" he had undergone was really really bad (I think they deprived him of sleep, talked to him harshly, and wouldn't let him go home to his mama). His Gitmo lawyer go

Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

2008-07-17 Thread Donald Snook
Ok Don wrote: 'Watching the nightly news does not make you informed enough to vote." I agree. In fact, I think if you watch too much of the nightly news, you will not be well informed, but misinformed. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new p

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiosity

2008-07-17 Thread Bill R
Yes, good question. I have no problem with any that we know are guilty getting whatever is appropriate - it is the ones who have no crime to answer for that concern me, and what that says about the US. On my trip to Peshawar [all over PK actually, but that area next to Afghanistan was more blatant

Re: [MBZ] What type of flame warrior are you?

2008-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond
I dunno, I'd like to think "Evil Clown" just because I like the name. They've put some time into that haven't they? Productivity grinds to a halt as I read it -Curt the evil clown. Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:02:08 -0500 From: John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] What type of flame

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiosity

2008-07-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Bill R wrote: > What spread of nationalities is there, anyway? At least one of them is a 16 year old Canadian. Accused of blowing up a US soldier last year in Afghanistan with a hand grenade. He was 15 at the time. The mommy is whining in the press about her poor child. I want to know what her

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiosity

2008-07-17 Thread Bill R
Watch that Rolf - I think you mean citizens of Afghanistan rather than Iraq - unless I am further behind the times than I thought. I have not been following Gitmo very much, but the stories I am familiar with are not Iraqis. What spread of nationalities is there, anyway? BillR -Original Mess

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond
Hmm, 1, 3 and 5 seem to have some relation... I'm glad somebody saw what I was getting at too. You never know how far you have to spell something out. What amazes me is that our president claims to be a "conservative" but then spends all this money so foolishly. He's not a fiscal conservative a

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiosity - Gitmo

2008-07-17 Thread Bill R
I hesitate to jump into this one, but IIRC some [and there are numbers out there somewhere] of these folks were picked up on the word of someone else, not captured in the field. There have been several stories of people that had no connection with any terrorist activity, but were in some sort of c

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread Jack Dahlgren
On 7/17/08, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gitmo is technically American soil is it not? > > I don't care if we kill them or send them home. I'm with you a Military > Tribunal should have been setup immediately in '03 (!) and these guys should > have been delt with immediately. Holdin

Re: [MBZ] Where do I find the Gross Vehicle weight?

2008-07-17 Thread R A Bennell
Can't you use the information from the old car since it is essentially the same and you had it registered there? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subje

Re: [MBZ] Chassis typ and engine typ chart

2008-07-17 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:23:50 -0500, Donald wrote: > Ok Don wrote: "That's the one I usually refer to -- quick and > easy, with pictures. > > One source is: > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html " > > > I forgot how attractive the 123 coupes were. In fact, I really > like th

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond
Gitmo is technically American soil is it not? I don't care if we kill them or send them home. I'm with you a Military Tribunal should have been setup immediately in '03 (!) and these guys should have been delt with immediately. Holding them for 5+ years to "get further information" is TOTALLY u

Re: [MBZ] Where do I find the Gross Vehicle weight?

2008-07-17 Thread ernest breakfield
no telling if anything you can find and/or supply will actually "satisfy" them,... if you ask them what they want and then provide that, they might have a more difficult time disallowing it. cheers! e andrew strasfogel wrote: > I need to get tags for my new 1983 300TD. D.C. bases the tax on

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond
Wait... Haven't we held some of these guys for years just for standing on the wrong street corner? Then we dump them back in Iraq and they're killed because people there assume they're bad guys or they assume they ratted out the bad guys. Or we dump them back home and their house has been taken

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Rich Thomas
You see, I said "thinking" which ain't the same as doing, but I am leaning to just keeping it as it is (well, get it running) and then having it "original" as gramps drove it. It is actually in quite good condition except for the interior which was a mouse house (I think I will call it the "Ha

Re: [MBZ] 48 state drive

2008-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond
*nods* Although... Last year I replaced the "forever" coolant in my Kawasaki 454 with G-05. What came out actually had alot of crystals in it... Now the aux fan never comes on as its never hot enough to need it... The aux fan used to come on for ~2 minutes... -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:21

[MBZ] What type of flame warrior are you?

2008-07-17 Thread John Robbins
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/index.htm I think most would agree we've been hit by multiple grenades lately ;) http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/grenade.htm John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Old Hondas etc seem to be good platforms for this kind of hacking. I > have my granddaddies 72 Datsun 510 wagon, I keep thinking it might be > fun to go electric with it. Ack! Haven't we been through this before? Please l

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Tom Hargrave
40 kW = 43 HP = the perfect size for a 60s VW bus, plus plenty of room for lead acid batteries & an internally mounted diesel powered generator Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joh

Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

2008-07-17 Thread OK Don
Nope - he wants all the voters to educate themselves and to be activily involved. I don't particularly like him either, but he's got some things right. Watchnign the nightly news does not make you informed enough to vote. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > O

Re: [MBZ] Where do I find the Gross Vehicle weight?

2008-07-17 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: > I need to get tags for my new 1983 300TD. D.C. bases the tax on the GVW but > this information is NOT on the old title. Can anyone supply me with a > website link to get this documented to satisfy the bureaucrats at DMV? They don't have a book to look this up in? Or is

[MBZ] Where do I find the Gross Vehicle weight?

2008-07-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
I need to get tags for my new 1983 300TD. D.C. bases the tax on the GVW but this information is NOT on the old title. Can anyone supply me with a website link to get this documented to satisfy the bureaucrats at DMV? Andrew 1983 300TD (2; one for sale) ___ htt

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread John Robbins
Mitch Haley wrote: > Fortunately, we can now do banks of FETs which can handle hundreds of amps > per > transistor, with resistance measured in milliohms. Yep! Good times :) > For instance, here's an electric motor throttle rated to handle 1200A > continuous > at 12v, with .0005 ohm resistan

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread R A Bennell
Lots of info and interest out there on electric propulsion systems for boats too. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread Rolf
Either they are treated under the GC and have a right to a military tribunal *OR* we are holding them against their will as citizens of Iraq. Against US law, against Cuban law and against Iraqi law. -Rolf Loren Faeth wrote: > Again, you are applying the constitution to people not under the > con

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond
I've thought about doing this with a 190E to create a 190EV... The one you want to check out is the ForkenSwift http://forkenswift.com/ the ultimate low budget EV. Even he didn't build his own controller though. -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:56:23 -0500 From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread R A Bennell
I should think that the base is deemed to be US property and as such, the rules that apply in the continental US should apply there to. The usual view is that it is better to let the guilty go free than to punish the innocent. That is why there is a presumption of innocence and the criminal stan

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread Rolf
You are correct. Usually our POW's are not treated under the GC because we are fighting aggressors as a defendor. Aggressors tend not to fight by the rules as they have already broken them. The GC gives us a *legal* way to punish those captors who do not follow the GC. We can do it via military tri

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread Rolf
No. That is incorrect. The Palestinian Jews had been doing it since the 20s -Rolf TE wrote: > Actually, the Japanese invented the suicide bomber during WWII... the > Palestinians just don't have the money for airplanes. > > I couldn't agree more, as the other side of the story is rarely prese

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread Rolf
We were discussing GC in relation to Gitmo. As far as I am concerned those are POW's and have right to a military tribunal at the *very* least. They are all certainly wearing orange uniforms now aren't they? -Rolf Rich Thomas wrote: > I am always amused when people are willing to toss out the mor

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread Loren Faeth
The constitution invokes the "innocent until proven guilty" for US citizens. We generously extend it to foreigners in the US legally. It does not apply outside the US jurisdiction.It has no relationship to the vacationers at club gitmo. They are there for the duration, unless a prison

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Very difficult to drive at night, the switching relays were mounted low in > the rear. They made a most impressive light show almost constantly. Fortunately, we can now do banks of FETs which can handle hundreds of amps per transistor, with resistance measured in mill

Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

2008-07-17 Thread Rolf
There is more than statistical evidence in FL. Read up on ChoicePoint's flawed felon detection removed thousands of valid democrats from the voter registration pool. http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/12/04/voter_file/print.html But again, participation in the Presidential election by

Re: [MBZ] MBZ] mercedes guide

2008-07-17 Thread Donald Snook
Don Snook wrote: "If you want information on Mercedes Models, here is good website. This only includes technical chassis/engine info, but it also includes pictures. http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html " I bet you all wondered why I sent this to the list when OK Don had already sent it.

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread Loren Faeth
Again, you are applying the constitution to people not under the constitution. These are not kids who stole a candy bar. They are people who were in essence shooting at our troops, be it literally or figuratively, in building, transporting or setting IEDs, or whatever. In the term of record

Re: [MBZ] 87 300D in Atlanta.

2008-07-17 Thread Rolf
Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Transmission shifted perfectly. >> > > If you are used to a 123 diesel and judged the transmission > accordingly then I bet it shifted quite a bit harder than "perfectly". > I can't imagine an '

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread pm7088
During the early 80's, I worked for a major Nuclear Fuel Fabricator, since euthanized by a euro-trash takeover. One of our senior managers built a "Voltswagon". It was a Beatle, stuffed with deep cycle batteries with I believe a 48v motor. It had about a 10 mile range if driven conservatively

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread pm7088
-- Original message -- > > Innocent until proven guilty. > > John > I would have to agree, our constitution guarantee's us that right, to be considered "Innocent until proven Guilty" However, MOST of the world uses a system of Napoleonic Justice which simply

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL blower fuse

2008-07-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
My first thought, too, Peter. What is most upsettinjg about that, though, is that I put a new MB blower motor on it less than 5 years and 20 kmi ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:19

Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

2008-07-17 Thread John Robbins
Loren Faeth wrote: > TE, Your underlying assumption is that the scumbags at gitmo are not > treated well enough. Show the evidence. and don't repeat > unsubstantiated blog stories. I could care less about creature comforts... thats a totally different issue. We are talking about what our c

Re: [MBZ] mercedes guide

2008-07-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
Nice! It would also be great to have a column with the number of cars produced for each model. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want information on Mercedes Models, here is good website. This > only includes technical chassis/engine info, but it

Re: [MBZ] Electric Cars Anyone?

2008-07-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: > A lot of people doing conversions use fork lift motors and deep-cycle > marine batteries (relatively cheap and easily acquired) and you do need > a controller of some sort. Back in the 1970's a fellow made a series hybrid from an Opel GT, with a 5hp Briggs engine, and a je

[MBZ] mercedes guide

2008-07-17 Thread Donald Snook
If you want information on Mercedes Models, here is good website. This only includes technical chassis/engine info, but it also includes pictures. http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita,

Re: [MBZ] Chassis typ and engine typ chart

2008-07-17 Thread Donald Snook
Ok Don wrote: "That's the one I usually refer to -- quick and easy, with pictures. > One source is: > http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html " I forgot how attractive the 123 coupes were. In fact, I really like the looks of all of the modern coupes - 123, 114, 126, 124, Donald H. Snook __

Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

2008-07-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Mass has had a lot of Repub governors over the years, I think it is because the people there like to watch the guvnah and the legislature fight all the time. It's the only thing the Globe has of interest in it. Or maybe because they are the only ones who have a minimal clue about governing, b

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