Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Tim C
More than that, the anemic sales of the Volt are clearly due to supply issues, since dealers don't have them in stock and can't get them. The Leaf is having similar issues. I suspect part of it, like was done with the early hybrids, is limiting supply so as to work bugs out with committed early

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread LWB250
Points well taken, Tim. The one thing that nags at me regarding the electric vehicles is how much gas/coal/oil has to be burned to produce the electricity to charge or run them? I never see this in the information, and I think it's a very relevant aspect of the whole electric vehicle thing.

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Lee
Electric vehicles have a problem - grid-based electricity in the US is dirtier than just running an economical gas-burner. Wind power has a problem - wind being an intermittent source of energy, it only makes sense when coupled with a storage device, but the grid has zero storage capacity.

Re: [MBZ] on to vacuum (124)

2011-06-19 Thread Dieselhead
Good engine. Not blowby. Original post described the vacuum brings the stop lever down most of the way, but not the final 1/2 inch or so travel of the stop lever. Takes very little pressure on the stop lever to shut it down. Vacuum at spec ~21 in Hg at the shutoff Shutoff holds vacuum for

[MBZ] OT Apple Tree

2011-06-19 Thread Douglas
I know this is OT and never had a apple tree before and now I do. It’s a Fuji and last year we got maybe 4-5 apples off it. This year the thing is so loaded down that the limbs are bending. When and how much do I thin the fruit out? Douglas ___

Re: [MBZ] Parts cars.

2011-06-19 Thread G Mann
Never used these folks, so don't have history with them, However I stumbled across their listing and thought it was useful so thought I would pass it along. It appears they are in the business of repairing tank sending units that are beyond repair or made out of youcantgetium oromygodium which

Re: [MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions

2011-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
Depending on how much you might want to hack, look for one that supports dd-wrt or tomato, these will let you control your router and use it for purposes it may not support out of the box (e.g. functioning as a wireless bridge). http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
Pretty much the greenest thing you can do is buy a non-hybrid used car and keep it in good running order. Anything made in the past couple of decades is pretty clean-running, and by buying used you are not creating demand for more raw materials for manufacturing. Of course that doesn't help

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Rory
Is this going to end up like GM's EV1 electric cars? Rory On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Pretty much the greenest thing you can do is buy a non-hybrid used car and keep it in good running order. Anything made in the past couple of decades is

Re: [MBZ] OT Apple Tree

2011-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Douglas wrote: When and how much do I thin the fruit out? I'd like to know too. My semi-dwarves were way overloaded last year. I don't think another bumper crop of undersized apples this year would be a good idea. I'd assume the sooner the better with thinning. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] OT Apple Tree

2011-06-19 Thread Lee
Do you prune your apple trees in the fall? This is the first and best way to protect against over-production of undersized, unhappy fruit. It's an important practice, not only to prevent over-production of fruit, but to give the tree a good structure and keep the canopy open enough that light

[MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions

2011-06-19 Thread LWB250
As I prepare to set up a new wireless network, I am looking at a number of wireless routers. I want dual band for sure, and possibly a local USB port, although this is not a deal breaker. Four Ethernet ports for sure. I am looking at a Linksys (Cisco) 4200 and a comparable Asus model.  Given

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread G Mann
I object, the whole idea that electric vehicles are clean is a manufactured lie. First, the entire electronics industry uses and makes some of the nastiest chemicals in history, which stay in the environment for lifetimes, not days. No natural thing eats them or breaks them down. Second,

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Lee
I'm pretty sure that the printing of government regulations is not the primary cause of global deforestation. Last time I checked, the timber, ranching and agricultural sectors had something to do with it. And you forgot about the hybrid and electric-car induced global rare-earth shortage that

Re: [MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions

2011-06-19 Thread LWB250
I am very familiar with dd-wrt (used to have an old Linksys 54) but don't have a need to tweak things. I just want dual band, gigabit Ethernet on the wired side (I have a Drobo FS for a NAS) and something that will scream. A lot depends on where we end up and whether or not it is wired or can

Re: [MBZ] OT Apple Tree

2011-06-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Standard practice, if I remember correctly, is to thin in june AFTER the natural drop occurs. There is usually some spontaneous fruit drop in early to mid June, and if that doesn't reduce the crop to around one fruit per 4-6 of branch, you need to thin manually. The fewer apples there

Re: [MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions

2011-06-19 Thread Peter Frederick
The only problem I've every had with a NetGear router was a lightening strike on my DSL modem. Fried the router, and a port on two computers. Not a problem with the router. Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread G Mann
Points well made. The housing industry which built city overcowding into our ecology certainly cut down the forests. And what's a few million pages of IRS and EPA regulations compared to that? Mines only pollute under EPA jurisdiction... those in Mexico and China don't pollute apparently cause

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Dan Penoff
When you see the articles written about comparing hybrids to straight gas burners, they almost always come out in favor of the non-hybrid car. There are so many efficient gas burners out there, that if you use good driving habits and keep them in good order, they will be less expensive in the

Re: [MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions

2011-06-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Heh. I live in the lightning capital of the world, (Florida) so I have loads of surge suppression along with a very good grounding system. In the 12+ years I have lived here I have never lost an electronic device to lightning. So far Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2011, at 1:19 PM,

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Rich Thomas
You miss the whole point of this exercise. It's not about what is rational, it's about what feeels good! And electric cars feeel good! And if you have one you can drive around feeling smug that you are clearly smarter and better than that other guy who does not have one, and that

Re: [MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions

2011-06-19 Thread TE
Dan, Personally, I would go with the Cisco/Linksys E2000 and reflash the firmware with dd-WRT. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 10:58 AM To: Okie Benz Subject: [MBZ] Wireless

Re: [MBZ] OT Apple Tree

2011-06-19 Thread Lee
I neither spray pesticides nor use chemical fertilizers. Just a shovel-full of compost now and then. I do plant my apple trees as a guild with other friendly plants to help meet the apple's needs, including perennial nitrogen fixers. Insectaries like dill, fennel, yarrow, lovage attract

Re: [MBZ] on to vacuum (124)

2011-06-19 Thread Dieselhead
Latest update. I tried sucking on the shutoff of a core OM603 IP i have and it goes to shutoff noticeably easier than that last bit of the problem IP shutoff. On the propblem IP there is a noticeable change in resistance when the lever is about 1/2 from completely shut down. This

Re: [MBZ] OT Apple Tree

2011-06-19 Thread Dieselhead
1. bloom 2. Blossom set 3. pea size 4. 3/8 to 3/4 dia 5 larger than 3/4 dia, By hand only The first stages can be done with Sevin, or hormone or by hand. Do not use Sevin during bloom, as you do not want to kill bees, and honeybees in particular. I know this is OT and never had a apple tree

Re: [MBZ] OT Apple Tree

2011-06-19 Thread Dieselhead
Established apple trees seldom (Never) need fertilizer in the midwest. Don't know about your area, but it sounds like you have worked to establish a good system, so fertilizer is probably not needed unless the leaves show a nutrient deficiency. Fertilizer is probably the most overused,

Re: [MBZ] OT Apple Tree

2011-06-19 Thread Lee
True. Over-fertilizing, particularly with chemical fertilizers, also creates super-abundant nitrogen in the foliage which makes your plants much more attractive to insect pests. Which then drives you to use the pesticides in addition to the chemical fertilizers. Or so I have read. Lee

Re: [MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions

2011-06-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I'd go with D-Link, making sure it's a model with an Atheros wireless chipset. Atheros just seems to play better with my equipment, and I've had no issues thus far. Walt On Jun 19, 2011 1:39 PM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Dan, Personally, I would go with the Cisco/Linksys E2000 and reflash

[MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor

2011-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
I've been using a Dell flatscreen monitor at work as a 2nd monitor on my Macbook without issue for well over a year. Recently I've used an Acer flatscreen at home, also without issue. The other day I plugged in the dongle with the monitor cable attached and the Macbook didn't recognize the

Re: [MBZ] OT Apple Tree

2011-06-19 Thread redghost
Prop the branches up. Other than that, just make sure you use a good bug oil to reduce infestation of fruit. If you want to cull, look for fruit that may impinge on others or that is a tad too small or misformed clay Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs Cleo - Used by the Queen

[MBZ] 124 door panels

2011-06-19 Thread Max Dillon
Do they lift up first, or pop off the bottom first? Also how does the trim around the inside door handle come off? I'm out in town with family, RR window just made a bad noise and stopped moving about three quarters of the way shut. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please

Re: [MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions

2011-06-19 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I have recently put a Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH into service. It has a USB port, gigabit Ethernet, comes with an open source OS and works very well. It is also pretty inexpensive. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions

2011-06-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Is it dual band? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I have recently put a Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH into service. It has a USB port, gigabit Ethernet, comes with an open source OS and works very well. It is also pretty

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Zoltan Finks
I don't dispute all the evidence that electric cars aren't as green as they say they are but one nice thing about them is they produce at least somewhat less in the way of emissions. Yes, this is offset by the manufacturing drawbacks, etc. But I am talking about the air that I actually breathe on

Re: [MBZ] 124 door panels

2011-06-19 Thread Dieselhead
Remove the lock button, the cover by the latch at the rear of the door. Remove any other obvious trim. 124 panels lift up. The plastic clips break easily, and the glue holding them to the masonite lets go. THe trim around the rear latch slides out, sort of after you get the panel loose.

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Zoltan Finks
Actually I caught my own flub here: Going up hills, hybrids are running on their good old gas engines. The mpg gauge in our Prius dives down into what appears to be the teens as we climb the hills. Brian On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Fmiser
LWB250 wrote: Points well taken, Tim. The one thing that nags at me regarding the electric vehicles is how much gas/coal/oil has to be burned to produce the electricity to charge or run them? I never see this in the information, and I think it's a very relevant aspect of the whole

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Fmiser
Allan Streib wrote: Pretty much the greenest thing you can do is buy a non-hybrid used car and keep it in good running order. Anything made in the past couple of decades is pretty clean-running, and by buying used you are not creating demand for more raw materials for manufacturing. Of

[MBZ] Message to Lee

2011-06-19 Thread Dieselhead
Someone posted McMaster numbers for viton fuel line and viton fuel return line several years ago. I remember it was one of the west coast Biodiesel users. Was that you, Lee? Anyhow, If anyone has those numbers handy, I'd like to have them again.Thanks

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Rich Thomas
They scare the shit out of me because I can't hear them coming and BANG! there they are (and one hopes there is no bang). Goes also for walking in parking lots. One came up me last week somewhere, it got me thinking that for low-speed tooling around they need a speaker on the front with some

Re: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor

2011-06-19 Thread Rich Thomas
Maybe your vid output fried? --R On 6/19/11 2:34 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I've been using a Dell flatscreen monitor at work as a 2nd monitor on my Macbook without issue for well over a year. Recently I've used an Acer flatscreen at home, also without issue. The other day I plugged in the

[MBZ] '83 300CD for near Kaleb money

2011-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2448654724.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Zoltan Finks
True. I can actually recognize the Toyota hybrid sound. Seems the same in all their hybrid models. Kinda space age-ish. But yeah. They really do need to have some warning. Reminds me of a harrowing experience one day when I was passed by an RV on a road with no shoulder. Was the kind of RV that

Re: [MBZ] 124 door panels

2011-06-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Fairly easy: Remove trim over top of arm rest and remove 10 mm screw. On rear doors, pry out window switch and unplug. Unscrew lock button. Pry off cover over door handle, pull handle bucket back (or forward, I can never remember which) to unlatch. Unhook pull rod from latch.' Pry off

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Peter Frederick
The associations of blind people have been demanding this for as long as there have been hybrids. They are so quiet that blind people often step off curbs in front of them, not being able to SEE the car coming because it makes no noise. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread WILTON
Or a playing card affixed so it rubs against wheel spokes, etc. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret

[MBZ] cheap routers

2011-06-19 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
Folks I'm currently running a netgear wgt624 i think i paid $1 or $2 for it in a thrift store they probably cost $15 or less delivered on ebay i've used linksys and i'm sure a few others, but the netgears are easy to manage using a browser interface, so there's nothing to install on a

[MBZ] macbook monitors

2011-06-19 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
you wrote From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Date: June 19, 2011 2:34:55 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: Macbook Pro no longer recognizes 2nd monitor Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com I've been using a Dell flatscreen

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Kevin Kraly
Since hearing is all I've got, electrics and hybrids are a problem. The guide dogs did well with the Prius used in training. It was sure quiet, and even when I didn't hear it, the dog provided plenty of buffer zone for our safety. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

Re: [MBZ] '83 300CD for near Kaleb money

2011-06-19 Thread Kevin Kraly
That would be a nice fun car! If it was around here, it would be triple the price! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Nashville 300SDL

2011-06-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
seems high to me. On 6/17/2011 8:49 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Going to be in Nashville next week so I checked the CL there... found this: http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/2440772543.html Wonder if it'll still be there. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300,

Re: [MBZ] Injection Pump Work

2011-06-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
$300 On 6/17/2011 8:59 PM, aland...@knology.net wrote: What do you guys think about this. Of course I have no intention of giving $950 for the car. Thanks Alan Duff Knoxville, TN The Ad: Mercedes 300 SD - $950 (Knoxville)

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Peter Frederick
A Guide Dog will help, certainly, but if you are trying to get around without one, hybrids and electrics can be very scary. They get lost in the surrounding noise in urban settings. Sorta like the hallway in the Student Center at SIU -- had perforated ceiling tile ventilation and was

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Heck with hybrids, they need to come out with more small 4 cylinder diesel powered cars. On 6/19/2011 12:27 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: When you see the articles written about comparing hybrids to straight gas burners, they almost always come out in favor of the non-hybrid car. There are so many

Re: [MBZ] macbook monitors

2011-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:13 -0400, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Here's a stupid question, i rarely run an external monitor on my macs, but HAVE and it works Was working for me too, for nearly two years. Have you tested the monitor on some other computer so that you know it is

[MBZ] thought y'all might like to see this pic - a nice old convertible

2011-06-19 Thread Zoltan Finks
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Re: [MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions

2011-06-19 Thread Howard Ginsberg
Dan, Hey. Good to see you again :) Doesn't answer your specific question, but take a look at the TP-Link comparable products if you haven't already done so. Take care and hope all is well. -Howard On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:58 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: As I prepare to set up a

Re: [MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions

2011-06-19 Thread Howard Ginsberg
Dan, Hey. Good to see you again :) Doesn't answer your specific question, but take a look at the TP-Link comparable products if you haven't already done so. Take care and hope all is well. -Howard On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:58 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: As I prepare to set up a new

Re: [MBZ] 124 door panels

2011-06-19 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks, figured out that door handle trim pops off at rear, then work it loose (plastic wedge works great). 10mm nut under there, also pull- rod for door latch. Ash tray also needs to come out. Once the latch and trim are out, use that hole to pull up and get the window seal loose. As you

Re: [MBZ] 124 door panels

2011-06-19 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks, once I got it off, found that the lift mechanism at base of window where all the sliding/lifting happens had broken, letting go of the cable. Pushed the glass up and wedged it into place. Really rather fortuitous timing, just fixed the AC and todays temperatures were over 100. Max --

Re: [MBZ] 124 door panels

2011-06-19 Thread Max Dillon
So, EPC only shows the entire regulator mechanism. looks like I buy the whole thing or head to the knackers...? Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks, once I got it off, found that the lift mechanism at

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Mountain Man
Brian wrote: I can tell you that I really like being passed by a hybrid - or especially an all electric - when I am riding my bicycle. Trouble maker. I would love to ride my 1938 Schwinn more, but I live on the outskirts. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Tim C
Geez, I go outside for a few hours and you guys go crazy! :) Electric motors put power to the wheels more efficiently.  People who have electric cars use less energy than people who use gas cars of comparable size and weight.  (Electric cars are also dragging around a literal ton of extra weight

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Tim C wrote: Why do I want an electric car? Because: - I drive a very predictable 20 miles round-trip in a day. That's 1 gallon of diesel, give or take, so call it $3.75 +/- $0.75. Using a relatively-conservative hobbyist conversion 0.5 KWh/mile, I would spend $1.00 (I pay $0.10/KWh) for

Re: [MBZ] thought y'all might like to see this pic - a nice old convertible

2011-06-19 Thread Mountain Man
Brian wrote: Is this custom? Or were these convertibles actually stock? I don't know. I have three more photos of the car if anyone wants to see them. Put the other pictures up here, please. Very nice looking car. Someone else can speak to whether these are factory made cars or after market.

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Wonder what the mileage on one of those little single-cyl gas deathtrap cars was... On Jun 19, 2011 8:27 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Tim C wrote: Why do I want an electric car? Because: - I drive a very predictable 20 miles round-trip in a day. That's 1 gallon of diesel, give or

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Tim C
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Tim C wrote: Why do I want an electric car?  Because:  - I drive a very predictable 20 miles round-trip in a day.  That's 1 gallon of diesel, give or take, so call it $3.75 +/- $0.75.  Using a relatively-conservative

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Walt Zarnoch wrote: Wonder what the mileage on one of those little single-cyl gas deathtrap cars was... A Messerschmitt KR200 (two stroke) was said to get 87 imperial mpg, or 70 US mpg, probably about what you would get with a 1970's subcompact and a diesel lawn mower engine, or a 200cc

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Remember the all-electric RAV-4? Leases terminated and vehicles crushed. And people who were lucky to get them LOVED them. A few even fought and got to keep them, albeit without ANY dealer parts backup. Now we have a gas engine tacked on, and it's called a Prius. I've also heard it's damn

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
It looks like a Chevy Dolt can, without using climate control, do about 35 miles on 13kWh, so your .5kWh per mile was actually conservative. You mentioned not paying 10 cents, what do you pay? My marginal cost of electricity is about 22 cents in the summer and 14 cents in the winter. It'd

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I wonder if they'll start factoring projected road tax into the purchase price... Walt On Jun 19, 2011 9:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: It looks like a Chevy Dolt can, without using climate control, do about 35 miles on 13kWh, so your .5kWh per mile was actually conservative. You

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Tim C
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: It looks like a Chevy Dolt can, without using climate control, do about 35 miles on 13kWh, so your .5kWh per mile was actually conservative. Hobbyist numbers, converting by removing gas engines and adding batteries does not

Re: [MBZ] 124 door panels

2011-06-19 Thread Max Dillon
Looks like part number 210 720 00 42 is what I need, but found that via Google, not the EPC. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: So, EPC only shows the entire regulator mechanism. looks like I buy the whole

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: It'd still take longer than the batteries will live to pay back the cost of trading in an SDL on a Dolt with fuel savings. And some of those fuel savings will go away when they figure out a way to make electric drivers pay road tax. It won't be long if

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread OK Don
While we can talk about the rational and economic factors of electric vs dino juice vs hybrid all day long, most car choices and purchases are emotional, not rational. It doesn' treally matter whether you think your saving money or the environment - you're going to buy the latest technology, or

Re: [MBZ] feeling goooood

2011-06-19 Thread RELNGSON
You miss the whole point of this exercise.   It's not about what is rational, it's about what feeels good!   And electric cars feeel good!  And if you have one you can drive around feeling smug that you are clearly smarter and better than that other guy who does not have one, and

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I'd put it in the charging station, and have the stations just report car X charged for Y hourss using X KW. That way it wouldn't matter who's charger you used, it'd always bill you the tax. It would be up to the charge station operator to bill for usage (in the event that parking garages start

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: It won't be long if EVs catch on in any significant number. You'll be required to have a special metered outlet installed in the garage (at your expense, probably several thousand dollars as the electricians will know a good thing when they see it) and you'll pay road tax

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Rich Thomas
They gotta make up the gas tax somehow. So you pay a premium to fel good then another tax to make up for the gas you aren't burning and the pollution you are spewing (from the tailpipe anyway) and pretty soon your smugness might be a bit less forthright. At least until the rest of the

Re: [MBZ] thought y'all might like to see this pic - a nice old convertible

2011-06-19 Thread Max Dillon
/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110619/1647dc0a/attachment.jpg;_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http

Re: [MBZ] The Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT....

2011-06-19 Thread Max Dillon
Not me that works in a nuke plant, but nuke is the only way to go, in my opinion. Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: .092 last month. Nuclear country, thanks Max! -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___

[MBZ] OT: Anyone ever repaired a retainer?

2011-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
My kid broke his retainer for the second time this year. It's a very clean break, lines up perfectly when pressed together. Thinking of trying to super-glue it (don't think Shoe Goo is the right choice here). Anyone ever tried this? Just don't know how super glue would hold up in the mouth.

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2011-06-19 Thread Fred Moir
Etre d'accord! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 6/19/2011 6:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Heck with hybrids, they need to come out with more small 4 cylinder diesel powered cars. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Anyone ever repaired a retainer?

2011-06-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Bring it back, most places fix it at no charge if you ask, or re-cast a new one. When my lower broke, I had one re-cast and had them fix the old one as a backup. I would NOT try a DIY repair. Your sons health is worth much more than saving a few bucks. Walt On Jun 19, 2011 11:04 PM, Allan Streib

Re: [MBZ] OT: Anyone ever repaired a retainer?

2011-06-19 Thread Allan Streib
Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com writes: Bring it back, most places fix it at no charge if you ask, or re-cast a new one. When my lower broke, I had one re-cast and had them fix the old one as a backup. Will call, but last time he broke it they had to make a new one and charged for it.

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2011-06-19 Thread Gerry Archer
As a very uninformed MacBook newby, I start mine by pushing the on button and immediately closing the lid on the MacBook. Otherwise the background screen comes up on the Dell 19 monitor but nothing else. Found this by accident; may be the way everyone starts their Mac/Monitor. Gerry

Re: [MBZ] OT: Anyone ever repaired a retainer?

2011-06-19 Thread Gerry Archer
If it's made out of the same pink plastic material as dentures, the ten dollar denture repair kits at nearly any drugstore make a strong bond if you mix it well. Be prepared to hold the pieces together for a few minutes until it sets. Then you can put it in the hot water. If it breaks again

Re: [MBZ] OT: Anyone ever repaired a retainer?

2011-06-19 Thread drcscruggs
I have repaired a retainer. BTW, I am a dentist. With that in mind, you would need dental acrylic. This is the pink stuff that denture gums are made from. However, I tend to agree with the response of not repairing it yourself as if it is repaired incorrectly (even just a few tenths of

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2011-06-19 Thread Craig
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:14:27 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: What good does gigabit ethernet do you when your ISP is maybe 10 Mb/s? Do you do a lot of file transfers from one local machine to another? Printing will go faster Craig ___

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2011-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey
electric cars use less energy than people who use gas cars of comparable size and weight. Charging efficiency is rarely talked about. A diesel-electric micro-hybrid, where the diesel was underpowered except for the average fwy requirement, and only enough battery to get you up to speed a time