Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Kevin Kraly
It must have been a 505 Turbo Diesel as I don't believe that the turbo Diesel engine was available in the earlier and more solid 504. The NA 505 was about the same as a 240D in performance. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin Kraly wrote: I like the PooJo 504, seemed to be a very solid car. My neighbor had three of them in the 1980's, 2 '79 Diesel sedans and a '76 Diesel Station Wagon. If they weren't so hard to get parts for here in the states, I would get one since they are often in the sub Kilobuck

Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Dimitri Seretakis wrote: One month later I saw it driving around in the adjacent town. Was the door fixed? My dad sold the Jeepster Commando when I went to university. It needed a shift fork, which I wanted to replace and he wouldn't let me tear the transmission apart. As soon as I was

Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yes a 505. I'm then mistaken! I don't have any experience witha 504. It may very well be a good solid car. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 3, 2011, at 2:54 AM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: It must have been a 505 Turbo Diesel as I don't believe that the turbo Diesel engine was available in

Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I don't remember if the door was fixed. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 3, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dimitri Seretakis wrote: One month later I saw it driving around in the adjacent town. Was the door fixed? My dad sold the Jeepster Commando when I went to university.

Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Gerry Archer
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Dimitri Seretakis wrote: One month later I saw it driving around in the adjacent town. Was the door fixed? My dad sold the Jeepster Commando when I went to university. It needed a shift fork, which I wanted to replace and he wouldn't let me tear the

Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Gerry Archer wrote: Because of the multiple layers of aluminum valley, the new floor was very strong. It was still in good condition when the White Tornado, as the teenagers called it, met its end in a Georgia junkyard. Gerry ___ When the floor

[MBZ] DIY CNC Mill project seeks donations

2011-07-03 Thread Allan Streib
No affiliation, but this looks interesting. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/chrisreilly/diylilcnc-20-open-source-plans-for-a-low-cost-cnc -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50

2011-07-03 Thread Curt Raymond
I asked for further clarification to see if the formula is really unchanged. I can say that the car seems no different using this oil. I went either 7 or 13,000 on the oil, I can't find a slip to prove either way... Oops! Good thing I'm using M1. I usually change at ~8,000 on the 617 and

[MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread G Mann
Probably an old question but I'm a new guy to the list so here goes. Have an 82 300D and an 83 300 SD both with stock as issued Mercedes wheels. Found a set of 16 inch wheels from later Mercedes [tire shop owner doesn't know/remember which model they came from] perhaps late 90'ish. Will the

Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50

2011-07-03 Thread Larry
I thought we said a while back that M1 15W50 wasn't good for diesels because of Soot suspension (or lack of it)? LarryT youroil.net -Original Message- From: Allan Streib Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 5:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50 Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Those newer wheels are going to look weird on those cars. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 3, 2011, at 1:38 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Probably an old question but I'm a new guy to the list so here goes. Have an 82 300D and an 83 300 SD both with stock as issued Mercedes wheels. Found a

Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50

2011-07-03 Thread Allan Streib
Larry l02tur...@comcast.net writes: I thought we said a while back that M1 15W50 wasn't good for diesels because of Soot suspension (or lack of it)? It was on the 229.1 approved lists for diesel engines. What's not certain is whether today's M1 15W-50 is the same oil. Allan -- 1983 300D

Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50

2011-07-03 Thread Larry
For my last change on the '91 300D I went with Brad Penn 15W40 from LN Engineering. So far so good but all I have to go on is the pressure at idle - which looks better than before - but there are so many variables it's not a great gauge. I'll run a test on it before long and see what the ZDDP

Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50

2011-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Do you know what the zinc levels are on the Brad Penn 15W40? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 3, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Larry l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: For my last change on the '91 300D I went with Brad Penn 15W40 from LN Engineering. So far so good but all I have to go on is the pressure at idle -

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread G Mann
Point well taken. However, is the stud pattern the same or not? Would they fit? On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: Those newer wheels are going to look weird on those cars. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 3, 2011, at 1:38 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley
G Mann wrote: Point well taken. However, is the stud pattern the same or not? Would they fit? Flip them over and get the part number off them. The first three digits are the most important. I don't think any wheels newer than W126 chassis would be a direct bolt on to a 123 or 126 without

Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50

2011-07-03 Thread Larry
No - I have not done an Analysis on it yet, but I was told the levels are high enough to protect the older engines. It's nearing time for me to pull a sample and mail it in will let you know .. LarryT 91 300D youroil.net -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis

Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50

2011-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
The reason why I'm asking is because it is a fairly inexpensive oil that I'd like to use on my 71 280SL. AFAIK the green Brad Penn stuff has high zinc levels but I don't think that 15W40 is green. Right now I'm using Valvoline VR1 20W50 Racing oil on the 280SL and it is around $4.50 per quart

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread G Mann
The temptation is great on this set. Set of 5, $150, for wheels and tires, tires are 90% remaining tread, doubt the spare has ever touched pavement. What are the numbers I should look for? Presuming there is a magic number that fits. Thanks, On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Mitch Haley

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread Fred Moir
Alles. Wheel info. http://mountainmarketingwv.com/Pics/MBZPNUM.htm Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 7/3/2011 3:49 PM, G Mann wrote: The temptation is great on this set. Set of 5, $150, for wheels and tires, tires are 90% remaining tread, doubt the spare has ever touched pavement. What

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Wow that is cheap! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 3, 2011, at 3:49 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: The temptation is great on this set. Set of 5, $150, for wheels and tires, tires are 90% remaining tread, doubt the spare has ever touched pavement. What are the numbers I should look for?

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
This short answer is: no. They will bolt up, but the offset will be wrong. You need spacers like these: http://images.jaimekop.com/2003_08_31_Wheels_380SE/ Despite having done this myself, I agree that they're going to look strange. Even 8 years ago, those W220 wheels were dirt cheap. Cheap

Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50

2011-07-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Negative, unless you can find a post specifically supporting that. -Curt Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:12:42 -0400 From: Larry l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50 Message-ID: 3D0AF867FD214545B28A8C82C78E7E4D@Acer Content-Type:

Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50

2011-07-03 Thread Curt Raymond
I was under the impression that ZDDP is important only with solid lifters which is why (considering the relatively small number of solid lifter cars in full service) the oil makers were willing to pull it out. $9.37/qt is ~$1/qt more than I paid for M1 the other day although I did have to also

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread WILTON
Yep, look strange, i. e., not look right for that vintage MB, but we're all different; that's why we have different names. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:23 PM

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread Peter Frederick
The offset is different for the W201 chassis and later, they will not fit. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz E300 diesel - $2500 (Cape Coral FL)

2011-07-03 Thread Fred Moir
Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:Mercedes Benz E300 diesel - $2500 (Cape Coral FL) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:28:20 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded

Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50

2011-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: I was under the impression that ZDDP is important only with solid lifters which is why (considering the relatively small number of solid lifter cars in full service) the oil makers were willing to pull it out. $9.37/qt is ~$1/qt more than I paid for M1 the other day

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I don't think any wheels newer than W126 chassis would be a direct bolt on to a 123 or 126 without spacers. The simplest wheel upgrade for a 123 is 15 flat pancake wheels from a 107 or 126. That opens up a lot more tire

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread G Mann
Thanks to everyone for your experience and replys. I now know more than I ever thought possible about MBZ wheels and what not to do. To bad, they won't fit. Tires alone are worth more than the price ask and rims are perfect. Oh well... On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Alex Chamberlain

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Buy them and re-sell on CL. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 3, 2011, at 5:11 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to everyone for your experience and replys. I now know more than I ever thought possible about MBZ wheels and what not to do. To bad, they won't fit. Tires alone are worth more

Re: [MBZ] 71 280SE 3.5 Coupe with 37k miles

2011-07-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
The speedometer went to 160 mph! On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Top speed was 125 or so, which would fit with the 6200 rpm red-line on the 3.5L V8. Peter __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Which makes me wonder what a fair price is for wheels. I was thinking of asking $150 for my set (all 5) of 14 201 wheels. The tires are pretty much junk, 3 are okay 2 are bad. Seem reasonable? I'm thinking to put them on Craig's maybe tomorrow. -Curt Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:01:54 -0700 (PDT)

Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50

2011-07-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Thats a great price for M1, around here its $8+ recently, big hike in the last 2-3 months, I was paying closer to $5 not long ago. Hopefully just a localized spike. If not maybe I'll order 100 quarts and sell 'em out of the back of my car. -Curt Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:53:09 -0400 From:

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Which makes me wonder what a fair price is for wheels. I was thinking of asking $150 for my set (all 5) of 14 201 wheels. The tires are pretty much junk, 3 are okay 2 are bad. Wheels weigh about 20lb. What's aluminum scrap going for these days? That sets a hard floor

Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50

2011-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Thats a great price for M1, around here its $8+ recently, big hike in the last 2-3 months, I was paying closer to $5 not long ago. Hopefully just a localized spike. If not maybe I'll order 100 quarts and sell 'em out of the back of my car. Yesterday, the 5.1qt jugs

Re: [MBZ] 15/50/

2011-07-03 Thread RELNGSON
...I was under the impression that ZDDP is important only with solid lifters which is why (considering the relatively small number of solid lifter cars in full service) the oil makers were willing to pull it out... Not solid lifter. Flat tappet engines. My Porsche 944 is a flat tappet

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread Max Dillon
Short answer: offset must be correct, lug bolts will be a challenge. Somewhere on the inside of the wheel is a code that looks like 6.5Jx16 H2 ET xx where the xx following ET is the offset, and the 6.5 in my example is the width of the rim, 16 is the diameter Here are two quotes from the late

[MBZ] My afternoon working on MB's

2011-07-03 Thread Max Dillon
Spent the afternoon working on my '95 E300 for a bit (fixed the other rear window using the 210 slider previously discussed) and then I dove into removing the head on my '87. I soaked the exhaust nuts/bolts again (had soaked them all with PB Blaster a week or so ago) prior to starting on the

Re: [MBZ] Wheel question

2011-07-03 Thread G Mann
I thank you Sir for your wisdom and insight. The wise man learn from others mistakes, and I wish to become wise as regards wheel use. I've learned more about MBZ wheels today than I knew existed. Grant... AZ where warm is 115 and cold is 95 in the shade, and where Sheriff Joe [toughest

Re: [MBZ] My afternoon working on MB's

2011-07-03 Thread Allan Streib
Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: I soaked the exhaust nuts/bolts again (had soaked them all with PB Blaster a week or so ago) prior to starting on the '95 window, and when I returned they came off like butter. PB Blaster is really nice stuff, when you can give it time to work. I

[MBZ] Crack heads versus rod benders

2011-07-03 Thread Hendrik Fay
We are having a bit of an argument on the Ozbenz forum as to which engine had which problem, up for discussion is a 87 230TE which has had a OM603.912 installed, I seem to remember that these engines had some heads that where prone to cracking and another forum member reckons that the heads

Re: [MBZ] Crack heads versus rod benders

2011-07-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The 3.5 was the rod bender Sent from my iPhone On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: We are having a bit of an argument on the Ozbenz forum as to which engine had which problem, up for discussion is a 87 230TE which has had a OM603.912 installed, I seem to