On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:19:32 -0600 Craig wrote:
> You can, however, download a brochure from
> http://microcarmuseum.com/brochure-web.pdf
The brochure says in part,
The microcar, a vehicle born out of need, was a child of its time
and became a symbol of a people's spirit.
Fmiser writes:
>> > Anyone have any idea how much deeper the bore is than the
>> > bolt is in length?
>
>> Walt Zarnoch wrote:
>>
>> 1.68"
>>
>> Just measured my spare crank.
>
> Total? Or beyond the bolt?
>
> But Allen said "camshaft"...
>
> Then he said crank.
>
> But the subject says camsha
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:19:18 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://microcarmuseum.com/contact.html
Unfortunately, the home page says, "CLOSED until Summer 2012 for
renovations."
You can, however, download a brochure from
http://microcarmuseum.com/brochure-web.pdf or take a vi
> > Allen wrote:
> >
> > Been working on drilling out the broken end of the camshaft
> > bolt on my 300SD.
> > To avoid the bit jumping around and damaging the threads in
> > the crank... ...It fits into the end of the crank
> > perfectly, and keeps the bit centered in the bore.
> > Anyone have
Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes:
> Great bushing idea!
>
> If memory serves, the bore is 1/2 to 1" deeper than the bolt. You
> WILL know when you are through. Are you using a left hand drill?
Note: subject corrected... crankshaft bolt not cam.
Yes, I am using a left hand bit. I was ho
Mitch Haley writes:
> Allan Streib wrote:
>> Been working on drilling out the broken end of the camshaft bolt on my
>> 300SD.
>
> This is actually the bolt that attaches the harmonic damper to the crank end,
> yes?
Yes, sorry, meant crankshaft not camshaft.
--
1983 300D
I'm swapping out the rotating assembly from an SD into my NA block, and the
crank is sitting in it's bubble-wrap all happy and oily.
And before you ask, it's easier for me to swap the spare rotating assembly
than swap in a turbo engine.
I ended up doing quite a bit of custom machine work that only
Oh, that was total depth from the front of the crank snout, not distance
left behind the bolt.
Walt
On Aug 10, 2011 11:25 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I did remember it was unexpectedly deep. Could not remember how
> deep, but I was thinking around an inch. 1.68" beyond the bolt
Pardon Woger. Walt meant spare crankshaft.
We all know you are the spare crank here
> ...Just measured my spare crank...
WHAT??
RLE
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> ...Just measured my spare crank...
>
WHAT??
RLE
>
>
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote:
> Perhaps a mog or two but Landies and Bruisers are more than likely to get
> bogged in the sand dunes without diff locks, perhaps if they let the tires
> down to 5 psi.
>
I don't know anything about Land Rovers except that the LR3 is
I did remember it was unexpectedly deep. Could not remember how
deep, but I was thinking around an inch. 1.68" beyond the bolt is
pretty deep. Deeper than I would expect.
1.68"
Just measured my spare crank.
Walt
On Aug 10, 2011 11:06 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
Great b
$950 for a $200-$300 car. good deal for the seller if he can find a sucker.
Also car has no keys but we have a different ignition and locks
that come with the car just needs to be installed.
That installation shouldn't take more than 7 hours and a half dozen
cobalt drills, eh? And would you
1.68"
Just measured my spare crank.
Walt
On Aug 10, 2011 11:06 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great bushing idea!
>
> If memory serves, the bore is 1/2 to 1" deeper than the bolt. You
> WILL know when you are through. Are you using a left hand drill?
>
>>Been working on drilling
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Adelaide. One of 6 survivors
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You would need the VIN for the REPLACEMENT lockset! Lotsa luck...
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:
> A locksmith could get you the proper key if you give them the vin and a
> title copy.
>
> Walt
> On Aug 10, 2011 11:06 PM, "Mitch Haley" wrote:
> > Also car has no keys but
Talk about a pig in a poke...
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> Also car has no keys but we have a different ignition and locks
> that come with the car just needs to be installed.
>
> That installation shouldn't take more than 7 hours and a half dozen cobalt
> drills, eh? A
A locksmith could get you the proper key if you give them the vin and a
title copy.
Walt
On Aug 10, 2011 11:06 PM, "Mitch Haley" wrote:
> Also car has no keys but we have a different ignition and locks
> that come with the car just needs to be installed.
>
> That installation shouldn't take more
Also car has no keys but we have a different ignition and locks
that come with the car just needs to be installed.
That installation shouldn't take more than 7 hours and a half dozen cobalt
drills, eh? And would you have a title for this non running, keyless car?
http://saginaw.craigslist.org/c
Great bushing idea!
If memory serves, the bore is 1/2 to 1" deeper than the bolt. You
WILL know when you are through. Are you using a left hand drill?
Been working on drilling out the broken end of the camshaft bolt on my
300SD. Drilling steel with a 90 degree adaptor on a hand drill is a
Allan Streib wrote:
Been working on drilling out the broken end of the camshaft bolt on my
300SD.
This is actually the bolt that attaches the harmonic damper to the crank end,
yes?
Mitch.
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Been working on drilling out the broken end of the camshaft bolt on my
300SD. Drilling steel with a 90 degree adaptor on a hand drill is a
PITA. I am trying to avoid removing the radiator and condensor. With
the fan shroud out I have room but not a lot of leverage.
To avoid the bit jumping arou
I served my get-up-early time.
Wilton
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Get up earlier in the day tomorrow, and you might catch up with me!
--R
O
--R wrote:
> Get up earlier in the day tomorrow, and you might catch up with me!
A bit of faux narcissism...
mao
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On 8/10/11 9:37 PM, WILTON wrote:
Okay - thought you were trying to say, "Were there a bunch of losers?"
Wilton
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"don't always clearly show" is why I say repeat it until you get the
same results three times. Especially if you only check IP timing
once in a while. Also of note, the camshaft timing should be set and
adjusted first. Practice makes perfect.
Common methods are drip and bubble. Neither
Okay - thought you were trying to say, "Were there a bunch of losers?"
Wilton
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great idea for CL/eBay postings...
BT WRONG!!!
--R
On 8/10/11 1:5
Allan Streib wrote:
I do normally check the stretch when I do valves, though I may have
skipped it last time. I'll be doing them again in the next month or
two. Last time I checked stretch it was less than 1 degree.
One degree of stretch at the cam is about 1/2 degree of stretch at the IP.
Fmiser writes:
> Check the timing. Most likely you can then ignore it until the
> chain stretch changes noticeably. Check the chain at least once
> a year (in the autumn) when adjusting the valve lash. If you
> put lots of miles on the engine, valve lash might be needed more
> than once a year
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 00:33:53 + (UTC) roger...@comcast.net wrote:
> Here's some more from the Atlanta Ga Craigslist.
> This says it's NOS W111 parts:
> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/pts/2516422238.html
>
> And if that's not enough for you, try this...:
> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/e
> Allan Streib wrote:
> I never have. My engine starts easily, has good power,
> doesn't smoke, so I feel that this is a case where "if it
> ain't broke don't fix it" might apply.
Well, not really. As the engine wears, the timing will retard.
Which is the safer direction. And as it happens slo
Depends on the installation of the UHF, sounds like a crappy one.
Hendrik
who has installed a number of UHF radios with success
Allan Streib wrote:
>From the article:
"The day was blighted by another incident when an after-market UHF
radio shorted out, taking out a number of other fuses w
Here's some more from the Atlanta Ga Craigslist.
This says it's NOS W111 parts:
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/pts/2516422238.html
And if that's not enough for you, try this...:
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/2540403501.html
And lastly, if anyone is interested in an 87 300SDL,
htt
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 00:21:15 + (UTC) roger...@comcast.net wrote:
> No, I have no financial interest in this stuff, but I thought some of
> you might be looking for parts for your old MBs. This is in the
> Atlanta, Ga. Craigslist.
>
> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/pts/2540357107.html
A
Perhaps a mog or two but Landies and Bruisers are more than likely to
get bogged in the sand dunes without diff locks, perhaps if they let the
tires down to 5 psi.
Hendrik
who used to drive trucks across sand, you just gotta keep moving and not
stop
G Mann wrote:
With tow cables to
Problem is, when you are traveling in convoy you get the dust from the
car in front, also they would not be traveling a brisk anything, think I
read that they averaged 31km/h with 17.7L/100km fuel use.
Hendrik
who never travels briskly
Fmiser wrote:
Allan Streib wrote:
From the arti
> astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
> In 25 years of W123 ownership, I have never heard of "drip
> timing". Nor has any tech ever brought this up as a
> maintenance issue or requirement.
Maybe it's time to find a good mechanic.
The timing changes with chain stretch. I am much less picky
than Marsha
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No, I have no financial interest in this stuff, but I thought some of you might
be looking for parts for your old MBs. This is in the Atlanta, Ga. Craigslist.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/pts/2540357107.html
Have fun looking...
Roger Hale
Monroe, Ga.
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Kaleb wrote:
> crap I was just there.
Yeah, all I gotta do is get up there and then it is in your backyard.
Chicagoiac
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crap I was just there.
On 8/10/2011 5:30 PM, Fred Moir wrote:
Any one need a cheap MB?
NOT mine etc.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
Original Message
Subject: 93 Mercedes 300D - $1500 (Winslow, ME)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:19:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: fred.s...@y
> Allan Streib wrote:
> From the article:
>
> " ...and the failure of one car's
> air-conditioning system, a necessity in the 30-degree-plus
> heat of the outback."
30 degree plus _requires_ air-conditioning???
That's silly!
A couple weeks ago I was driving through St. Louis, without
air-co
Rich Thomas wrote:
Wow, Kleb could have driven this one home, or have the mainiac drive it
to Okieland then ride the dog back down east.
I think it's the Chicagoiac who does free car portering.
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to Okieland then ride the dog back down east.
-R
On 8/10/11 6:30 PM, Fred Moir wrote:
Any one need a cheap MB?
NOT mine etc.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
Original Message
Subject: 93 Mercede
Any one need a cheap MB?
NOT mine etc.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
Original Message
Subject:93 Mercedes 300D - $1500 (Winslow, ME)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:19:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: fred.s...@yahoo.com
To: fred.s...@verizon.net
fred.s...@yahoo.com has
With tow cables to drag the carcasses to the nearest latte` store.
Air conditioning??? What's that?... Either you are in the Outback or you're
not... act like it!!! E`gads... what if the white wine coolers got warm??
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:12 PM, wrote:
> > They should have taken along fiv
I set the eng to 15' or whatever and open up the whole and inserted the
tool with slot horizontal. Loosened the 3 bolts at the front (rear was
pita so I just skipped it) and adjusted the IP until I felt the tang
slip in. Continued adjusting counting number of turns until I felt
resistance, back
Needs some dubs
--R
On 8/10/11 4:58 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
Silver exterior, maroon interior, probably worth 20% less than a comparable
model
with a more "mainstream" color scheme.
I think silver over maroon sounds great, but then I als
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
> Silver exterior, maroon interior, probably worth 20% less than a comparable
> model
>with a more "mainstream" color scheme.
>
I think silver over maroon sounds great, but then I also like this car:
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/253810
FSM says 30k. What is says specifically is "Check start of delivery,
only once after 30k". However I think every 60k after that would be a
safe bet.
-Rolf
On 08/10/2011 02:22 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
I never have. My engine starts easily, has good power, doesn't smoke,
so I feel that this is
> They should have taken along five Land Rovers and five Toyota Land
> Cruisers as backups.
>
RLE
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I never have. My engine starts easily, has good power, doesn't smoke,
so I feel that this is a case where "if it ain't broke don't fix it"
might apply. Many things that can be adjusted should be left alone in
the absence of any problems.
Is there a scheduled maintenance interval that includ
BT WRONG!!!
--R
On 8/10/11 1:51 PM, WILTON wrote:
Only two? 'Missed a good chance for three, Rich. ;<)))
Wilton
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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great idea for CL/eBay posting
Once it is set, it won't change other than chain stretch. If you
leave it alone and put in a new chain when the stretch is
insignificant, then the new chain pulls the timing back in to place.
Google drip timing. Once a year or so never hurts
-Rolf
On 08/10/2011 01:25 PM, astrasfo...@gma
How do you use the locking tool for timing? I've done that, but would like to
hear how others do it.
Max
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Rolf wrote:
Check your timing. Rusy sells a $30 tool that makes timing the 603 a
15-20min job.
-Rolf
On 08/10/2011
Well this would be IP timing. Then there is cam timing which is
generally referred to as "timing chain stretch", which is properly
checked using the 2mm lift method (measuring timing on crank when intake
or exhaust [cant remember] on #1 is 2mm into its lift cycle. This is
then offset by a woodr
I never have. My engine starts easily, has good power, doesn't smoke,
so I feel that this is a case where "if it ain't broke don't fix it"
might apply. Many things that can be adjusted should be left alone in
the absence of any problems.
Is there a scheduled maintenance interval that includes ti
Rich Thomas wrote:
30C appears to be 86F if I compute correctly, quite tolerable even
without functioning AC!
It's winter down there, right?
Spring starts in about 6 weeks?
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Amazing! I wonder how many other 123 owners never bother to explictly check
engine timing. I look forward to improved performance from my "new" 85
300TD.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Rolf wrote:
> Well that could entail a whole books worth of answers. Retarded timing
> tends to make for bl
Well that could entail a whole books worth of answers. Retarded timing
tends to make for black smoke and high egts. Premature timing tends to
make for grey smoke. Proper timing will increase power and minimize
particulates. Injectors can cause the same thing, low pop pressure (worn
springs) you
Great - thanks, Rolf. One last question.
So how will this adjustment improve how the engine operates?
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That is up for some debate. I cant see why you wouldnt be able to do it
via the RIV tool port on 84 and 85's but GSXR on pp said you couldn't.
Why I don't know. Its worth a try I think, unfortunately my 85 has an 83
engine... It should dead simple, similar to the steps liste in 07_1-111.
Rotate
Only two? 'Missed a good chance for three, Rich. ;<)))
Wilton
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Weir there a bunch of loosers
--R
On 8/10/11 9:
1985 CA models, I think, possibly some others. All can still be set using the
drip tube (as can 60x's, but there are no instructions for doing so).
Prior to the addition of the hall effect pickup "bump" and access port, ALL MB
diesels are timed by some version of the drip tube method.
Peter
30C appears to be 86F if I compute correctly, quite tolerable even
without functioning AC!
--R
On 8/10/11 1:09 PM, Rolf wrote:
And can MB *still* not make a reliable air-conditioning system?
You are asking for too much sir!
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Rolf wrote:
Diesel engines are all about timing.
Do the later 617 engines take a lock tool similar to the 60x engines?
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In 25 years of W123 ownership, I have never heard of "drip timing". Nor has
any tech ever brought this up as a maintenance issue or requirement.
Andrew. 1983, 1985 300TD
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Google drip timing. Once a year or so never hurts
-Rolf
On 08/10/2011 01:25 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
So how/when/whY would I adjust timing on my W123 turbodiesel?
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So how/when/whY would I adjust timing on my W123 turbodiesel?
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
Di
I should add: its a cheap easy fix. Glow plugs and injectors are
expensive and a PITA on the 603. At 150k your injectors will need
servicing. If the GP light comes on then most likely all is well.
-Rolf
On 08/10/2011 01:11 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Is timing an issue for earlier diese
Diesel engines are all about timing.
-Rolf
On 08/10/2011 01:11 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Is timing an issue for earlier diesel engines?
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Is timing an issue for earlier diesel engines?
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
Check your timing
Check your timing. Rusy sells a $30 tool that makes timing the 603 a
15-20min job.
-Rolf
On 08/10/2011 12:29 PM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote:
Sounds line weak/bad glow plug(s).
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And can MB *still* not make a reliable air-conditioning system?
You are asking for too much sir!
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Weir there a bunch of loosers
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On 8/10/11 9:43 AM, Allan Streib wrote:
http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/captchas_to_keep_idiots_out_of_comment_threads/
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Sounds line weak/bad glow plug(s).
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On Behalf Of Ralph Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:07 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
I have about 150K miles on my
>From the article:
"The day was blighted by another incident when an after-market UHF
radio shorted out, taking out a number of other fuses with it, and the
failure of one car's air-conditioning system, a necessity in the
30-degree-plus heat of the outback."
How would a short in the radi
Hendrik & Fay wrote:
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/updated-outback-cripples-mercedesbenzs-toughest-offroaders-20110805-1ie5s.html
As one Citroen team driver yelled at another in Paris-Dakar as he drove by
(having caught up to his teammate after the teammate's dampers caught fire) "You
w
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No, I didn't.
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Rusty,
Did you get my message with t
And the official version
http://www2.mercedes-benz.com.au/content/australia/mpc/mpc_australia__website/en/home_mpc/passengercars/home/passenger_cars_world/canning_stock_route.html
Hendrik & Fay wrote:
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/updated-outback-cripples-mercedesbenzs-toughest-offroaders-
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/updated-outback-cripples-mercedesbenzs-toughest-offroaders-20110805-1ie5s.html
at least they made it
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/mercedesbenz-claims-outback-first-20110809-1ik11.html
Hendrik
who wouldn't mind a G
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who thinks what she said
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