[MBZ] CL idiot of the week- PNW Edition

2012-04-25 Thread clay monroe
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/2974323812.html Yeah, I want your incipient rust storm for $2k. This will take weeks of hard work to neutralize. And it will never be right. Insurance already paid him off, and this is criminal clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - G

Re: [MBZ] W123 1985 300TD ACC (heating system) 101

2012-04-25 Thread Dieselhead
I drove 25 minutes to work this morning in cool "February in April" weather and couldn't get the old smell. Maybe the Lysol did the trick (I should be so lucky). 87 yesterday. today was warmer. Hardly Feb weather! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and us

[MBZ] Headlights from the Black Lagoon

2012-04-25 Thread clay monroe
While waiting for the proper spark wires to come from Rusty, I got excited when UPS guy dropped a box on the porch. Not the needed wires, will have to call Rusty in the morning to see if they are back order. Big box of scary. Well, actually eBay batch of euro lights for the SL. Been looking

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Philip
> Philip wrote: > I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual > transmission. > > -- Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. Mountain Man wrote: I have 3 pedals in my 240D. Teach me? Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder? Sounds like a nice challenge... if

Re: [MBZ] W123 1985 300TD ACC (heating system) 101

2012-04-25 Thread Jim Cathey
...I think you need a feminine nose for the final test Hah! My wife's always asking me to smell this or that out of the refrigerator in order to see if it's still good. Noses vary. It's not sex-linked. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and u

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread David & Kristin Gilmore
At 07:59 PM 4/25/2012, mao wrote: -- Philip wrote: > I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual > transmission. > > -- Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. I have 3 pedals in my 240D. Teach me? Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder? Sounds like a nice cha

Re: [MBZ] OT: Medical Records: was Light Reading of crash data

2012-04-25 Thread OK Don
That would be a GREAT system! Wish someone had paid you "happy money" for it, and put it place! On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:46 PM, G Mann wrote: > Way back in 2005 I designed and copyrighted a medical file system that had > a patient card which remained with the patient and held the entire patien

Re: [MBZ] Couple parts questions

2012-04-25 Thread Curt Raymond
I didn't mean to send that to the list ;) He says $85. We'll see how hard it is to install -Curt Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:17:59 -0400 From: Larry T To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Couple parts questions Message-ID: <4f983fd7.9040...@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; c

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread OK Don
I used to drive my 1951 VW manual, no synchro at all, with no clutch - match the engine speed when down shifting just as if you'd double clutched, but with more accuracy, or "crunch". Granted, the power used ws considerably less (25hp when new). On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Fmiser wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] Riding the solids

2012-04-25 Thread OK Don
Nope - tyvek or something - I just missed that the first time around. On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: > Alles. > There was some mention of teflon patches over some vents that blew off as > designed after liftoff. (?) > Maybe I'm mis-remembering or mis-conscrewing? > > > Fr

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Mountain Man
--   Philip wrote: > I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual > transmission. > > --   Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. I have 3 pedals in my 240D. Teach me? Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder? Sounds like a nice challenge... if I can keep from wreckin

Re: [MBZ] OT: Medical Records: was Light Reading of crash data

2012-04-25 Thread Mountain Man
Allan wrote: > Was just reading that contact with our health care system is the fifth > leading cause of death in this country. Eh... Life ain't all its cracked up to be... Easy to say as I am still breathing and ticker is still doin' its thing... mao - purely expendable _

Re: [MBZ] OT: Medical Records: was Light Reading of crash data

2012-04-25 Thread Peter Hertzing
What we need is the ability to share simple data such as diagnosis and current medications so that doctors can communicate regarding care. Does no favors to our system when a doc orders a ct that the patient had last month cause it's easier then getting the result from another doctor. Same wit

Re: [MBZ] OT: Medical Records: was Light Reading of crash data

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012, at 03:12 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > Plus, we don't need to go see these information gatherers. Abe > Lincoln didn't have an exposure problem - stay away from the systems > and try to accomplish anonymity as much as possible - forget the > regulators and their schemes. Yes, t

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Max wrote: Hendrik & Fay wrote: Floating a gear means shifting without using a clutch, a good driver will be able to shift all gears, up and down, without using the clutch. Thanks, that's what I thought. Have done that "in extremis" but never well enough to feel comfortable that I wasn't

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Max
Hendrik & Fay wrote: >Floating a gear means shifting without using a clutch, a good driver >will be able to shift all gears, up and down, without using the clutch. > > Thanks, that's what I thought. Have done that "in extremis" but never well enough to feel comfortable that I wasn't harming th

Re: [MBZ] W123 1985 300TD ACC (heating system) 101

2012-04-25 Thread Max
andrew strasfogel wrote: >I drove 25 minutes to work this morning in cool "February in April" >weather and couldn't get the old smell. Might be good news, but I think you need a feminine nose for the final test -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Fmiser
> > > Philip wrote: > > > > > > A good driver will float all the up-shifts. > >On 25/04/12 17:40, Max wrote: > > > > What does it mean to "float an up-shift"? > Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Floating a gear means shifting without using a clutch, a good > driver will be able to shift all gears, up and d

Re: [MBZ] Couple parts questions

2012-04-25 Thread Larry T
Hey Curt - Can you let me know what Rusty says? I need the same piece... Thx -- LarryT 78 240D 91 300D On 4/23/2012 10:16 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Rusty, For an '78 240D, can you get the black plastic trim that goes over the aluminum trim that hangs on the rain gutter? I don't know what its

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Dan Penoff
Some years ago I seem to recall my driver showing me an inline 6 that was fuel injected in his "car". I believe he said something about it being able to burn a wide range of fuels. Dan On Apr 25, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: > A buddy of mine worked with UPS many years ago to help d

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Allan Streib wrote: > > > I don't see how selling the "cars" could create liability, once a vehicle > > is sold the prior owner is no longer liable I would not think. > > Unless the prior owner designed said vehicle, then he'd be on the ho

Re: [MBZ] W123 1985 300TD ACC (heating system) 101

2012-04-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
I drove 25 minutes to work this morning in cool "February in April" weather and couldn't get the old smell. Maybe the Lysol did the trick (I should be so lucky). On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > In my experience, once the heater core is contaminated externally, you will

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: I don't see how selling the "cars" could create liability, once a vehicle is sold the prior owner is no longer liable I would not think. Unless the prior owner designed said vehicle, then he'd be on the hook for any product liability concerns. Mitch. __

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: > On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:35 AM, "Allan Streib" wrote: > > > UPS don't keep their trucks long enough for longevity to be a factor. They > > sell them off after a couple of years. > > > No. Some package cars are quite old. > Also, as Tarek

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Rich Thomas
A buddy of mine worked with UPS many years ago to help design an engine for the kind of driving the "cars" (the guy who started UPS insisted on this terminology, and I think it was a firing offense to refer to them otherwise) did, back after the initial fuel "shortage" in Jimmy Cahtah days. Di

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:35 AM, "Allan Streib" wrote: > UPS don't keep their trucks long enough for longevity to be a factor. They > sell them off after a couple of years. No. Some package cars are quite old. Also, as Tarek (sp) stated earlier, the retired package cars are destroyed, presumabl

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012, at 11:09 AM, TE wrote: > UPS destroys their package cars when they are retired from service. First, > the package car is stripped of its badging, decals, etc. Next it is painted > white, crushed to pieces and photographed. Really? I had no idea. Why is that? Doesn't seem t

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012, at 07:50 PM, Craig wrote: > I recall the fellow who drove the Inglewood City Lines bus I took to and > from high school. An old diesel with a 4-speed, non-synchro transmission. > He had to double-clutch every shift and did a very good job of it. When I was a kid my school bu

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
UPS trucks do a lot of slow, stop and go, city driving. Diesel might not be the best choice. Also the difference in the per-gallon price between diesel and gasoline is getting pretty large, and diesel engines are more expensive initially. UPS don't keep their trucks long enough for longevity

Re: [MBZ] W123 1985 300TD ACC (heating system) 101

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
In my experience, once the heater core is contaminated externally, you will never get rid of the smell unless you remove it and wash it. At that point you can pressure test it directly. I had a smelly heater core in a VW, I removed the core and pressure tested it and it didn't leak. What I s

Re: [MBZ] W123 1985 300TD ACC (heating system) 101

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
Yes, the ACC does switch between "more" and "less" outside air but it's always drawing _some_ outside air. In max AC mode it would be mostly recirculating. I don't agree that a pressure test would identify a leaking core. The leak may be very small, but enough to produce a detectable smell. A

Re: [MBZ] Grubbing around under Frosch

2012-04-25 Thread Fmiser
> clay monroe wrote: > Did not drain the TC, but it can not hold all that > much. Got it buttoned back up and poured four quarts of Mobil > 1 in. > the manual shows it takes seven liters, but that is just weird > it only took four. That means there's 3 liters of old fluid in the torque conv

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Floating a gear means shifting without using a clutch, a good driver will be able to shift all gears, up and down, without using the clutch. Only possible in a non syncro box, well possible in a syncro box but you will have to be within a few engine revs. Hendrik who hasn't floated gears for a

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Ridin da dawg! --R On 4/25/12 9:00 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: On a Harley 74 on the old three lane road between Washington and Richmond, tried to pass a Greyhound. Got even with it but couldn't do it because the oil temperature got too high. This was in 1948. There were two of us on the bike. M

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Gerry Archer
On a Harley 74 on the old three lane road between Washington and Richmond, tried to pass a Greyhound. Got even with it but couldn't do it because the oil temperature got too high. This was in 1948. There were two of us on the bike. Might have done it with only one. "Oh Lord, before I'm turned

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread TE
Nope, only LNG. To be honest, these things are so few and far in between at UPS, they are used more as a PR tool than a delivery tool. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:26 PM To:

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Max
TE wrote: >LNG has always been a part of the UPS fleet, though in limited >quantities >and only in select areas (e.g. the Pleasantdale GA hub). Are any of these bi-fuel (LNG or #2 diesel)? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Max
Brian Toscano wrote: >http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/u-p-s-finds-a-substitute-for-diesel-natural-gas-at-260-degrees-below-zero/ > > That is good news, I think we'll see more and more LNG and CNG vehicles, which will pressure OPEC / Saudis to lower the price of oil. Then I can drive f

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Max
> >A good driver will float all the up-shifts. > >-- Philip > What does it mean to "float an up-shift"? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Fmiser
> > Peter Hertzing wrote: > > > > ... they have had to replace trucks with automatic > > transmissions because they couldn't find drivers who could > > drive manual tranny's. I remmeber when the same thing > > happened to the bus line I was driving for. Sad day and > > definitly less quality driv