Re: [MBZ] Options

2013-02-13 Thread Gerry Archer
I love that Becker knob radio with the mechanical station pre-sets, Chris. Wish I could find one for the '83 300D. Gerry From: "Chris James" That was correct in previous years, but in looking at a price guide by '83 a stereo radio (with cassette & pwr ant) & manual A/C was standard on the US

Re: [MBZ] Options

2013-02-13 Thread Chris James
That was correct in previous years, but in looking at a price guide by '83 a stereo radio (with cassette & pwr ant) & manual A/C was standard on the US market 240D. The extra cost options (to specify when ordering, aside from standard or auto trans) were: Rear headrests Metallic paint Becke

Re: [MBZ] Options

2013-02-13 Thread RELNGSON
> ...My '83 240D was ordered and then picked up in Germany.  It has > mechanical AC > and heat, mechanical windows, stick shift transmission, and beige MBtex > plastic upholstery.  Would this be a standard optional "package", or did > the > buyer specify each item, I wonder?.. > The only extra c

[MBZ] Woger does James Brown

2013-02-13 Thread Dieselhead
Woger sez: "I FEEL GOOD, SO GOOD" I change my M1 0W-40 at 5000 miles, even with the correct filter, because I do a lot of short trips AND it makes me feel good. I buy it by the case when it's on sale and I buy my fleece filters in the aftermarket. Using my Topsider also cuts costs down t

[MBZ] Change intervals 2

2013-02-13 Thread RELNGSON
> ...So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if > change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan.. > > Part of the long change interval (10K can be used) is using the correct fleece filter which MB dealers use. I change my M1 0W-40 at 5000 miles, even with t

Re: [MBZ] change intervals

2013-02-13 Thread RELNGSON
> So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change > intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, > > Dan > Part of the long change interval (10K can be used) is using the correct fleece filter which MB dealers use. I change my M1 0W-40 at 5000 miles, even with the c

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Brian Toscano
I would use Chevron Delo 15w-40 or Mobil Delvac 1300 15w-40. Never really cared for Rotella. On Wednesday, February 13, 2013, Benz Hogs wrote: > My ML is running around 10K intervals. > > Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL > '98 ML320 "Max" (161,xxx mi) > > On 2/13/2013 1:52 PM, Kaleb C. Stripli

Re: [MBZ] white list?

2013-02-13 Thread Rick Knoble
On Feb 13, 2013, at 10:00 PM, "Rolf" wrote: > I've worked with SA before but to no real depth. Why not just turn it off and > remove people who send spam? I mean honestly I'd much rather deal with some > spam than have every one of my emails rejected for content. Oh hell no. Rick Sent from

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Benz Hogs
My ML is running around 10K intervals. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 "Max" (161,xxx mi) On 2/13/2013 1:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on driving. I

Re: [MBZ] MBUSA Roadside Assistance

2013-02-13 Thread WILTON
I like AAA to tow it wherever I want it - the 91 SDL 20 miles to stealership 17 years ago when timing chain broke, the 81 300D 50 miles home when fan belt broke; the 87 124 coupla miles home when key (master switch) would not turn. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To:

Re: [MBZ] MBUSA Roadside Assistance

2013-02-13 Thread Max Dillon
My beef with the subject is that they offer limited assistance (new battery, change tire, gallon of fuel) or a tow, but the tow is to the dealership. Won't tow to your house, or shop of choice, only the dealership. My insurance company offers towing and the first ten or twenty miles are cover

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: So are you guys saying that an extended interval on the 300E could realistically be 10k? The V6, with fleece filter and 0W40 oil, sure. I had a couple of gallons of 5W40 on hand when I bought the e320 which was due for a change, so I used that, but it's not exactly 'right' f

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Max Dillon
10k miles. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff wrote: >So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if >change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? > >Thanks, > >Dan > >On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Max Dillon >wrote: > >> Only three ne

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread clay monroe
I run the diesel oil in Froggy. She is having issue with oil pressure and a thicker oil in her hot engine seems to make her happier. On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > In a gasser? I thought Delvac was only used in diesels? > > Dan > > On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, "Kaleb C. St

Re: [MBZ] white list?

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Sure, I will turn it off and spend hours a day sorting thru spam. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Rolf wrote: > I've worked with SA before but to no real depth. Why not just turn it off and > remove people who send spam? I mean honestly I'd much rather deal with some > spam

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread clay monroe
My thoughts would be the same as with green coolant. AS long as you swap it out religiously, you are probably ok. I have been thinking recently about the models I see on the road for our Tri-star cars. Not a statistically significant example of vergassers over the age of 18 years. I can be

Re: [MBZ] MBUSA Roadside Assistance

2013-02-13 Thread clay monroe
Maybe, if all you have is the Benz and that is all anybody drives. AAA allows you to have any vehicle covered as well as any idiot in the household. I could rack up all sorts of $100 services on Froggy, but then SWMBA would be out in the dark in her korean car. Would it also cover cars that h

Re: [MBZ] white list?

2013-02-13 Thread Rolf
I've worked with SA before but to no real depth. Why not just turn it off and remove people who send spam? I mean honestly I'd much rather deal with some spam than have every one of my emails rejected for content. -Rolf On 2/9/2013 12:29 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Feb 8, 2013, at 10:39 PM, "Ri

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread OK Don
12,000 + miles, based on analysis by Larry. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change > intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? > > Thanks, > > Dan > > -- > OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Gra

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
So are you guys saying that an extended interval on the 300E could realistically be 10k? I just checked and we have been doing 7500. I thought it was more like 5k, but I don't do much in the way of work on the car - the youngster does it for the most part unless it's something major. Dan Sent

Re: [MBZ] Nice 240D on CL

2013-02-13 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
This sounds like a standard US car. European delivery at this point means a US car that picked up in Germany, then brought to the states by MB after a short period of time. Otherwise, they're just normal US cars. Earlier (60s), some european delivery cars were a bit more odd in their options tha

Re: [MBZ] Nice 240D on CL

2013-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I love it when the ebay idiots selling 111 coupes list "power locks" among the options. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: > It does have power locks; forgot to mention that. > Gerry > > From: "Dan Penoff" > > > >> Literally every item on the build ticket is an "option" if you

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The guy is a moron Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Feb 13, 2013 12:19 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: >> >> The 104 came in the 300e in 93 > > I always remember that the engine change came a year before the badge > change to E320, because there is

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Feb 13, 2013 12:19 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > > The 104 came in the 300e in 93 I always remember that the engine change came a year before the badge change to E320, because there is some goofball on the PeachParts forums who insists that his '93 was mislabeled at the factory and should b

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
M103, I believe. Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Your 300E has a M103 or M104? I don't remember if the cutoff is 1992 or > 1993. > > Jaime > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > >> So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what ki

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The 104 came in the 300e in 93 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Your 300E has a M103 or M104? I don't remember if the cutoff is 1992 or > 1993. > > Jaime > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > >> So for those of you who are doi

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It factors in starts and stops engine starts, idle time etc Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and >> it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Your 300E has a M103 or M104? I don't remember if the cutoff is 1992 or 1993. Jaime On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change > intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? > > Thanks, > > Dan > > On Feb 13, 2013,

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on driving. I have not tracked the miles on that one just change it when it tells me to Yes, on my 1999 e320 the FSS starts out at 10,000

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on driving. I have not tracked the miles on that one just change it when it tells me to Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > So fo

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It's geared toward diesels but its perfect in a gasser, probably overkill but that was I just have to stock one oil Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > In a gasser? I thought Delvac was only used in diesels? > > Dan > > On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, "Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I use it in everything except my cdi which requires that expensive esp oil Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Yeah, that or Rotella T. > > Diesel oil is the new conventional oil for older cars. > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin w

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended > oil change intervals, and slight increase

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Its fine for gas engines also. (Its on the label). They will have reasonable amounts of ZDDP. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > In a gasser? I thought Delvac was only used in diesels? > > Dan > > On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" > wrote: > > > I would use

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
Really? What is the rationale? I am curious about this. What about some of this high mileage stuff that the major oil companies hype? I know Rotella very well, as it was a standard for all kinds of stationary diesels, but we never put it in a gasser. Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Jaime Ko

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
In a gasser? I thought Delvac was only used in diesels? Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > I would use the delvac 1300 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > >> Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Yeah, that or Rotella T. Diesel oil is the new conventional oil for older cars. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > I would use the delvac 1300 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > > Curious as to the list's opinions on regular

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Max Dillon
Save your used Mobil 1 for me? I'll be in Tampa again later this summer. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff wrote: >I don't do longer change intervals, even with M1. > >Dan > >On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Gerry Archer >wrote: > >> How does the cost per m

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Max Dillon
Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended oil change intervals, and slight increase in engine wear. Lifter noise is no big deal, no damage is being done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff wrote: >Curious as to the lis

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would use the delvac 1300 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 > 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has > done. I want to go back to a conventional o

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
I don't do longer change intervals, even with M1. Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: > How does the cost per mile work out when you consider the longer change > interval with Mobil 1? > Gerry > > From: "Dan Penoff" > > >> Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino

Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Gerry Archer
How does the cost per mile work out when you consider the longer change interval with Mobil 1? Gerry From: "Dan Penoff" Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back

[MBZ] Oil (Dino)

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am

Re: [MBZ] Nice 240D on CL

2013-02-13 Thread Gerry Archer
It does have power locks; forgot to mention that. Gerry From: "Dan Penoff" Literally every item on the build ticket is an "option" if you want to call it that. I suspect that MB had or had a standard build for a given market and then offers options on tip of that. Your car sounds like th

Re: [MBZ] MBUSA Roadside Assistance

2013-02-13 Thread WILTON
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBUSA Roadside Assistance No Roadside service for me. Last time I took a car to the MB stealership: Was schedu

Re: [MBZ] OT - Cessnas was Ok don

2013-02-13 Thread WILTON
'Thought I remembered posting it somewhere; 'shoulda checked archives. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Fmiser" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Cessnas was Ok don WILTON wrote: Speaking of Cessnas reminds

Re: [MBZ] Nice 240D on CL

2013-02-13 Thread Rich Thomas
You could sell your car as the *extremely* rare strasfogel zundfogel model --R On 2/12/13 10:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Not as rare as a Strasfogel but still pretty awesome. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: >I wonder if it has the rare zundfogel engine. > >--R __

Re: [MBZ] MBUSA Roadside Assistance

2013-02-13 Thread dseretakis
I need that insurance policy. I drive old cars long distances on a regular basis. The last thing I need is to be stranded on the highway 100 miles from home. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 7:25 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Consider that you are more or less buying an insurance policy with

Re: [MBZ] Nice 240D on CL

2013-02-13 Thread Jim Cathey
mechanical AC and heat, mechanical windows, stick shift transmission, and beige MBtex plastic upholstery. Would this be a standard optional "package" Sounds like my Euro 200D (no AC), and could be thought of as the "taxi" package. But I'm pretty sure you could opt in or out of every little th

Re: [MBZ] MBUSA Roadside Assistance

2013-02-13 Thread dseretakis
Yes but that $100 oil change will not include a tow, neither will the RA assistance that you get with it. Just not worth it in my eyes. I'd rather spend the $100 for AAA plus and have peace of mind. You can get four 100 mile tows per year with that. Now that's a bargain! Sent from my iPhone On

Re: [MBZ] MBUSA Roadside Assistance

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
Consider that you are more or less buying an insurance policy with AAA. They are betting that you won't need them for a year for $100. If you spend that $100 at a stealership, you're getting something of value for the $100 as well as qualifying you for Roadside Assistance. So if you do the math

Re: [MBZ] Nice 240D on CL

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
Literally every item on the build ticket is an "option" if you want to call it that. I suspect that MB had or had a standard build for a given market and then offers options on tip of that. Your car sounds like the typical delivery for Europe or the Middle East, with maybe an exception if you

Re: [MBZ] MBUSA Roadside Assistance

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff
My point exactly. AAA is no longer a bargain unless you upgrade. The only time we had it was when the wife worked for them and we could get it heavily discounted or free. The "standard" AAA membership has maximum amounts they will provide for things like towing and roadside assistance. I would

Re: [MBZ] Nice 240D on CL

2013-02-13 Thread Gerry Archer
My '83 240D was ordered and then picked up in Germany. It has mechanical AC and heat, mechanical windows, stick shift transmission, and beige MBtex plastic upholstery. Would this be a standard optional "package", or did the buyer specify each item, I wonder? Gerry From: "Andrew Strasfogel"