Re: [MBZ] Ever have a driveshaft snap in half?

2013-12-20 Thread John Reames
Could be a bad rotor; I had some that looked fine but was a layer of good metal over a sheet of rust... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:32, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Ralph Robertson wrote: still shakes the

Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-20 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
Van Damme and Van Damme in Van Damme Yankees! -MST3K -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread Dan Penoff
As someone who graduated magna cum laude from a very highly rated school of education in the nation, I sort of take umbrage at some of the comments Pedagogical skills are critical to the transfer of knowledge. If the teacher doesn't understand how their students learn or knowledge is

Re: [MBZ] You are responsible for your health care (emamuqur for kaleb's stupid spam bot)

2013-12-20 Thread Larry T
Hi Mitch, I must admit I probably put pressure on the doctor to get my knee replaced as quickly as possibly. The failed knee looked like I was bow legged on one side and I worried it might break completely, which I knew would be a very painful event. So I was anxious to get a replacement

Re: [MBZ] millenials

2013-12-20 Thread Larry T
I got a 3. Sincerely, Larry On 12/16/2013 7:05 PM, Mountain Man wrote: What scores do okiebenz readers get? http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/how-millennial-are-you/ mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo edymevyg

2013-12-20 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik and Fay wrote: http://www.volvotrucks.com/trucks/uk-market/en-gb/trucks/volvo-fm/key-features/Pages/volvo-dynamic-steering.aspx Another step towards full automation, trucks change gears themselves now, a manual box that is shifted as opposed to a traditional auto box. I think Merc and

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread Rich Thomas
You know, last week my daughter (finally) graduated college, we went to the ceremonies. They had all the PhD candidates and their thesis titles listed in the program. A lot of them seemed like BS to me, but what do I know... One of them stood out as a major contribution to societal

Re: [MBZ] millenials

2013-12-20 Thread Gary Hurst
clearly you are a all a bunch of old dinosaur farts and i am king of youth culture here On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I got a 3. Sincerely, Larry On 12/16/2013 7:05 PM, Mountain Man wrote: What scores do okiebenz readers get?

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread Gary Hurst
i like a lot of young people and often think of substitute teaching and then there are a lot of young people i don't like who upset me, so i am hesitant right now i limit myself to judging debate and oratory on a part time basis. it's easier there as you can just dismiss the kids who don't want

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread Dan Penoff
You probably need to consider the thesis in context to the source of the studies (college of social sciences, education, etc.) as this has a lot to do with doctoral dissertations/theses, I suspect. If you looked at doctoral candidates from a college of science or engineering I can assure you

Re: [MBZ] Stevia

2013-12-20 Thread Curt Raymond
Probably Truvia now that you mention it. My wife's aunt makes cookies using almond butter instead of flour and they get a weird texture. Angie makes them with honey and the weird unpleasant texture is gone. Her aunt said she used stevia but she didn't say which form. Never the less I despise

Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

2013-12-20 Thread Curt Raymond
No, Chuck Norris isn't computer generated or animated. Its a composited image where elements have been computer generated but some are real. After Effects is a compositor although there are plenty of apps that also do that. I mentioned AE specifically since somebody mentioned Photoshop, both

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

2013-12-20 Thread Curt Raymond
I have a cousin who got nabbed for rape 2 or 3 times. His grandparents insist he's a good kid. His sister has 4 or 5 kids which are all wards of the state (she'd leave them home while she went out on a date for instance) but her grandparents insist she's a good mother. Needless to say we're

Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo

2013-12-20 Thread Curt Raymond
I went back and watched it and Philip's right. If they're running the footage backwards its dammed impressive how the drivers are driving forward while watching the mirror... -Curt Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:56:05 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo

2013-12-20 Thread Hertzing
It's the dynamic steering which won't allow certain wheel inputs after a certain speed. Same system on modern prevost busses... Awesome Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I went back and watched it and Philip's right. If they're

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread OK Don
Have you been paying attention to the studies into why Finland has such great student outcomes? Seems to be a result of making entrance to teachers college very selective, and paying them like professionals instead serfs. Somehow, they've instilled a desire for education in the populace. Finland

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread Dan Penoff
Absolutely. Finland isn't the only country that does this. In fact, this is the norm for a lot of developed countries. Sadly, our culture has reduced the teacher into a nanny in a lot of respects, and top-down management and the willingness to adopt new methods and techniques is all too

[MBZ] OT - 'Nother Sondy Tale - Energy conservation

2013-12-20 Thread WILTON
Yep, 'nother Sondy Tale: ENERGY CONSERVATION By Wilton Strickland As part of an energy conservation measure in 1977, the Carter administration mandated lowered thermostat settings for government buildings -- 64°F for warehouses, for example. When I arrived at Sondrestrom Air Base,

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread Randy Bennell
On 20/12/2013 1:01 PM, OK Don wrote: Have you been paying attention to the studies into why Finland has such great student outcomes? Seems to be a result of making entrance to teachers college very selective, and paying them like professionals instead serfs. Somehow, they've instilled a desire

Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother Sondy Tale - Energy conservation

2013-12-20 Thread Craig
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:19:44 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, 'nother Sondy Tale: ENERGY CONSERVATION By Wilton Strickland ATTABOY, Wilton! (On the way to the airplane, I had stopped by the warehouse to confirm that the thermostat settings were appropriate and doors were

[MBZ] OT - drones

2013-12-20 Thread OK Don
*Wouldn't the right to bear arms extend to drones? If I caqn own it, why can't I store it on an octocopter? I'm surprised that OK is mentioned, I didn't think there was a single gun that the legislature doesn't like.* Wish you had some way to keep track of your pesky neighbors? Or see what it is

Re: [MBZ] OT - drones

2013-12-20 Thread G Mann
Weaponized drone ??? ¿¿¿ Could happen ?? If you have the dollars and testosterone... try this one on for size... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU Pandoras box anyone? Does government really understand what they are opening up?.. Really?? Inquiring minds want to know Kinda

Re: [MBZ] millenials

2013-12-20 Thread Scott Ritchey
From what I see of the youth culture, you are welcome to it. Old fart Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 10:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] millenials clearly you

Re: [MBZ] millenials

2013-12-20 Thread Gary Hurst
yes, i am the present and the future . you guys are the past. not meant to be disparaging but just a fact i think it's time to hit the swimming pool now :) On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: From what I see of the youth culture, you are welcome to it.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Gainful employment for Craig

2013-12-20 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: I call it edubabble. We might want to name this the religion-industrial-complex. It is all about dollars, hence industry. Do not mention God in the one, or you are persona non grata. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Stevia

2013-12-20 Thread Mountain Man
Curt wrote: Never the less I despise chemical sweeteners and will stick with our three which I consider much more honest and low tech. +1 Totally agree!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Stevia

2013-12-20 Thread Gary Hurst
i guess if forced to use sweeterns, i'd go with honey and then maple syrup On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: Curt wrote: Never the less I despise chemical sweeteners and will stick with our three which I consider much more honest and low tech. +1

Re: [MBZ] millenials

2013-12-20 Thread Mountain Man
Gary wrote: yes, i am the present and the future... it is interesting to play with your answers after your initial score you can change answers to see which answers get you closer to millenial i could get very millenial by changing a few answers mao ___

Re: [MBZ] millenials

2013-12-20 Thread Gary Hurst
you can approach me if you try, but i am already there. the star child! On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: Gary wrote: yes, i am the present and the future... it is interesting to play with your answers after your initial score you can change

[MBZ] OT Aviation Humor

2013-12-20 Thread rickknoble
http://www.quickmeme.com/p/3vqlfy Rick Knoble Sent from My Samsung tablet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread Mountain Man
Peter wrote: I was definitely un-impressed with the quality of the work being done in the College of Education when I was a graduate student and on the Program Review committee. 40 years ago when I went to coledg I fully intended to teach in special ed but dropped out of the ed pgm because it

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread Mountain Man
Gary wrote: universal compulsory education is one of the great criminal sins of the modern world, yet no one is willing to speak out against it but me. Our family life spoke out against universal compulsory education - home school 7. The issue of compulsory is totally religious. We need to

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

2013-12-20 Thread Mountain Man
Scott wrote: ...criminals can always obtain firearms, regardless of laws. You know the definition of stupid? Keep trying the same action expecting different outcome. Law against guns has failed, not hooch laws. We need to take the issue of guns in our hands - gov't of and by the people. We can

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

2013-12-20 Thread Gary Hurst
my kid went to some mitt romney meets the kids thing and i wanted her to ask him if he could contrast the number of deaths per year from marijuana vs the number from tylenol and whether he could make any inferences from these relative numbers she wouldn't do it though On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

2013-12-20 Thread Gary Hurst
it's simply a mad society we live in. it won't last much longer when the chinese take over completely (if there is anything left worth taking over -- we might just be one giant detroit in 20 years), they will set us straight on such matters On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread Dieselhead
Dan, No offense meant. there may still be some outposts of true teacher prep, but too many follow the moving targets of the latest foofoo. your last sentence, We need consistency and focus on core subjects, and the heck with the latest foo-foo stuff. is pretty much my point. They chase

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread Gary Hurst
it runs the gamut at my kid's ghetto school. some of the teachers just stupid and incompetent. many simply no longer care. some are very good. some are amazing. it's just all over the place. no distinction seems to be made between the awful teachers and the great ones in fact, the

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread Gary Hurst
not sure, ever, what the hell you are saying, but i do appreciate how you refuse to participate in the man's programs On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: Gary wrote: universal compulsory education is one of the great criminal sins of the modern world,

Re: [MBZ] millenials

2013-12-20 Thread OK Don
Ha! I'm 14 points ahead of you, not that I think being millennial is a good thing though. I hate to think that all those young whippersnappers are like me! On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you can approach me if you try, but i am already there. the

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

2013-12-20 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 20, 2013 9:14 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: when the chinese take over completely (if there is anything left worth taking over -- we might just be one giant detroit in 20 years), they will set us straight on such matters You make it sound like this is desirable. I

Re: [MBZ] millenials

2013-12-20 Thread Gary Hurst
you are my hero! On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:03 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Ha! I'm 14 points ahead of you, not that I think being millennial is a good thing though. I hate to think that all those young whippersnappers are like me! On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Gary Hurst

Re: [MBZ] millenials

2013-12-20 Thread OK Don
You are doomed! On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you are my hero! On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:03 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Ha! I'm 14 points ahead of you, not that I think being millennial is a good thing though. I hate to think that

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

2013-12-20 Thread OK Don
It is the parents responsibility to insure that their kids get a good education, not the schools. We filled in the gaps when needed, and de-bunked that crap that was fed our kids. They attended the worst schools in town until HS, and then the school was only 'OK' - great by Oklahoma standards,

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

2013-12-20 Thread Gary Hurst
it's not desirable but the collapse of america has already happened. someone will come and restore order. someone always does On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Dec 20, 2013 9:14 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: when the chinese

Re: [MBZ] millenials

2013-12-20 Thread Gary Hurst
i am aware of this On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:15 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: You are doomed! On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you are my hero! On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:03 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Ha! I'm 14 points