Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque

2014-07-30 Thread Fmiser via Mercedes
OK Don wrote: IIRC, the V8 has more torque, which is what a truck needs. Fmiser wrote: Well, no. Not really. But sort of. Jim wrote: It's a good first approximation. Torque maps to acceleration, whereas horsepower maps to top speed. A 200HP 400#' engine will likely be

Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque vs nuts

2014-07-30 Thread Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes
It's horses for courses, if you're likely to tow a lot and load the truck up then yeah a bigger more torquey engine would be the go but to add some perspective, modern Merc V6 engines produce more horsepower than the Euro version M100 but not as much torque. However if you do the occasional tow

Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque vs nuts

2014-07-30 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
How much extra do they want for a manly Diesel version, you could put vertical stacks on it and some air horns and hang out at truck stops. Oooh don't forget the balls out the back http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_nuts Yes on the diesel. Last I looked it was about a $3k option up front,

Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque

2014-07-30 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I suspect your definition of drivable is probably similar to mine Probably. I distinguish between drivable and race-able. If you have to downshift in order to accelerate, for _normal_ driving, that's bad. So with a suitable transmission, and a willingness to put the engine in the right RPM

[MBZ] New W211

2014-07-30 Thread Tom Savage via Mercedes
Well, I've placed a deposit on an '07 E320 Bluetec with a scant 36k miles. Car is in Oklahoma City and I have the logistics worked out to go fetch it, with the exception of talking Kaleb into buying my S420. Hint, hint. Free delivery... Tom ___

Re: [MBZ] New W211

2014-07-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well I am sure something can be arranged. I am right on the way to OKC. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Tom Savage via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I've placed a deposit on an '07 E320 Bluetec with a scant 36k miles. Car is in Oklahoma City and I have the

Re: [MBZ] New W211

2014-07-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Ps where are you buying it from? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Tom Savage via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I've placed a deposit on an '07 E320 Bluetec with a scant 36k miles. Car is in Oklahoma City and I have the logistics worked out to go fetch it,

Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque - was: OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Now, if I understand correctly, if my pickup has the required torque to pull the 4000 lb. trailer up Grapevine, and your lawn tractor doesn't, I'll be moving and you won't. With gearing both will do the job. I've been using the terms not in a physics sense, but more in a drivability sense.

Re: [MBZ] New W211

2014-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Tell us about your S420. Please. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 30, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Tom Savage via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I've placed a deposit on an '07 E320 Bluetec with a scant 36k miles. Car is in Oklahoma City and I have the logistics worked out to go fetch it,

Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt

2014-07-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
OK Don via Mercedes wrote: There is a reason why bombs are shaped the way they are with fins on the back end - they tend to land where you aimed them better than random shaped objects. It doesn't help much if your non-toxic bombs don't hit the target. Otherwise, I like your idea I'm

Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt

2014-07-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I say we take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. BTW those are called mass drivers and are great fun. I think Heinlein gave a brief explication of why the moon was a great place to base space exploration from, being mostly outside Earth's gravity well,

Re: [MBZ] New W211

2014-07-30 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
why not daewoo? On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Tom Savage via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I've placed a deposit on an '07 E320 Bluetec with a scant 36k miles. Car is in Oklahoma City and I have the logistics worked out to go fetch it, with the exception of talking Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque - was: OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Let me suggest that your statement is more theoretical than practical. On the street, you want torque. If you are a Nascar racer on the track, you want horsepower. Randy On 29/07/2014 7:34 PM, Fmiser via Mercedes wrote: OK wrote: IIRC, the V8 has more torque, which is what a truck needs.

Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt

2014-07-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 29/07/2014 8:23 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I am thinking we should be more ecologically friendly in our munitions. Various sized gravel and stones at terminal velocity would be swift and have no lasting toxic effects. A day after the event, it is all good, twenty years on, no birth

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 29/07/2014 8:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What countries is she passing through, to get where exactly? She who must be admired? Uh, did you really ask that question? So, let me see, if you were on the west coast of the USA and wanted to drive to Alaska, what countries

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Somewhat like physics, geography doesn't, lie, though some try to stretch and bend/distort it, depending on the politics of the day.;) BTW, will she be able to see Russia? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque

2014-07-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 05:12:43 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So with a suitable transmission, and a willingness to put the engine in the right RPM range, the 300 HP engine will out accelerate the 200 HP. Probably. Though torque curves, transmission ratios, RPM

Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt

2014-07-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
http://ottawa-rasc.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Odale-Articles-WestHawk On 30/07/2014 9:01 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: OK Don via Mercedes wrote: There is a reason why bombs are shaped the way they are with fins on the back end - they tend to land where you aimed them better than random

Re: [MBZ] OT I am so angry

2014-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What car are you talking about? On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:10 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I got screwed over in March. Shop hosted a club event and I bit on their offer of reduced rates to have work done. The tech was not qualified to work on a D-jet system and

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
LOL! Even if you can see Russia I doubt you can drive there. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:54 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Somewhat like physics, geography doesn't, lie, though some try to stretch and bend/distort it, depending on the politics of the day.;) BTW,

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
In the winter you can... Dan there's a beautiful woman behind every tree on Adak Sent from my iPad On Jul 30, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: LOL! Even if you can see Russia I doubt you can drive there. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:54

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Was Palin's bridge to nowhere going to Russia? Didn't it get built? On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: LOL! Even if you can see Russia I doubt you can drive there. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That belonged to the state senator, Ted something. Dan On Jul 30, 2014, at 12:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Was Palin's bridge to nowhere going to Russia? Didn't it get built? On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
It was Tina Fey, a comedian on Saturday Night Live, when portraying Palin (and they look remarkable similar) said, I can see Russia Unfortunately those who do not like Palin erroneously attribute this quote to her to make her appear stupid. (There might be other evidence for that, but

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You can see Russia from a few select locations, islands, of course, that belong to the US. Dan On Jul 30, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It was Tina Fey, a comedian on Saturday Night Live, when portraying Palin (and they look remarkable similar)

Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt

2014-07-30 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Your thought about fighting with rocks reminds me of the kinetic energy weapon that was supposedly developed during the cold war by Russia .. I think it was called Stalins Hammer [could be wrong on that] ... I've heard that USA also played with them.. but very little has been disclosed [always a

Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt

2014-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Also known as the clean or neutron bomb IIRC. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your thought about fighting with rocks reminds me of the kinetic energy weapon that was supposedly developed during the cold war by Russia .. I think it was called

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:19:30 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You can see Russia from a few select locations, islands, of course, that belong to the US. Maybe Big Diomede Island in the Bering Strait. Nikolskoye Kamchatka Krai and the small island to its southeast are

Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque - was: OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Which is what pleases me about the 6spd in the F150 (and some Chevys too) which gives a nice low first and a good high 6th. -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: OK Don okd...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque vs nuts

2014-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
No diesels in half ton Fords. Dodge is the only one that does that and it only comes in the fully tarted $50,000 monster... I'm back to looking at used trucks, I can't believe I'd never looked at Autotrader before. Turns out a Toyota dealership I pass every day has a couple trucks I'm

Re: [MBZ] OK Don

2014-07-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:18:19 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We are using ATLink WIFI - they have towers in Edmond and Guthrie. It's line-of-site WIFI to an antenna on the hangar roof. Are you close to Nowata, or on the other side of the airport? Something like ATLink

Re: [MBZ] OK Don

2014-07-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I *think* the one I'd use is the Straight Talk one though, its similar money and they don't spam the crap out of your email. I was also very unhappy with how un-straightforward Freedom Pop's website is. Looks like they're hiding stuff. -Curt From: Craig via

Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque - was: OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I chose the F150 over the Chevy based first on the space behind the seat (basic, small cab) - lots in the Ford, NONE in the Chevy, and a bit more load/towing capacity. Really, it was the space behind the seat that made the difference to us. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Curt Raymond via

[MBZ] Cyberdyne S-class

2014-07-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
http://jalopnik.com/this-simple-hack-lets-your-mercedes-s-class-become-semi-1612959314/all --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt

2014-07-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:32:47 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Also known as the clean or neutron bomb IIRC. No, that's something entirely different. Craig On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your thought

Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque - was: OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Did you look at the back seat area in the Supercrew? It is huge both with the seat down and with it folded up. Randy On 30/07/2014 3:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I chose the F150 over the Chevy based first on the space behind the seat (basic, small cab) - lots in the Ford, NONE in the

Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt

2014-07-30 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Grant wrote: ...kinetic energy weapon... The new class of Navy carrier has kinetic energy weaponry. Someone here put the link up a month back. The carrier is solar powered and other fascinating stuff. Someone that knows military junque - please correct me. mao

[MBZ] Rock Auto Closeouts for W124

2014-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Here is an example of the emails I get from Rock Auto for close out parts: http://www.rockauto.com/RSS/vehiclefeeds.php?carcode=1193925m=wcl=enhtml=true Yeah, some of it is crap, but there are occasional diamonds in there, like the TRW ball joints, for example. Dan

[MBZ] Oz Merc truck

2014-07-30 Thread Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes
http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2013/338/b/5/mad_max_4_fury_road_mercedes_benz_tanker_1_by_maltian-d6wqe0j.jpg Hendrik who has been to Silverton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Oz Merc truck

2014-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Looks like a veggie oil conversion for Wachsmuth's Mothra. Dan On Jul 30, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2013/338/b/5/mad_max_4_fury_road_mercedes_benz_tanker_1_by_maltian-d6wqe0j.jpg Hendrik who has been

[MBZ] Number 4 4 sale

2014-07-30 Thread Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes
http://starmotorsny.com/1964-300se/ Hendrik whose Benz is not quite that black ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: