Re: [MBZ] A new take on social distancing

2021-09-15 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It is with great pleasure that I report none of my 17 Diesel vehicles has demonstrated unintended spontaneous combustion, even while parked less than 6 feet apart, thus saving the planet from the emissions of an uncontained lithium battery fire. On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 7:21 PM Dwight Giles via

Re: [MBZ] A new take on social distancing

2021-09-15 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
yes there is the future of EV's. I park my diesel MB next to my house. On Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 7:25 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > "General Motors urged some owners of Chevrolet Bolt electric cars to park > and store the vehicles at least 50 feet away from other

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Ain’t your neck of the woods already getting ready to implement the death > panels? Don't get sick. IMHO there should now be two COVID wards in hospitals. Which one you go in should be predicated on the answer to the questions: "Were you vaccinated? And why not, exactly?" Ward 1 is

Re: [MBZ] 2007 GL450 - 166k miles - $9,450

2021-09-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Over twice what I paid for my 09 Volvo XC90 with less miles. Of course this is a nicer car: V8, 4Matic, with tow hitch and has video screens. On Wed, Sep 15, 2021, at 9:15 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > Looks nice seems kinda high for the miles > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > > > On

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Clay via Mercedes
I can scavenge fuel from an abandoned vehicle with ICI. There is no way to suckle electrons from a dead EV. EV goes all of 250 miles at best then needs a half day to dribble power back in, while I can siphon gas out of all manner of lawn mower, snow blower, or even toss a garden hose into a

Re: [MBZ] 2007 GL450 - 166k miles - $9,450

2021-09-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Looks nice seems kinda high for the miles --FT Sent from iFōn > On Sep 15, 2021, at 8:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > This isn't really in Chicago -- New Lenox is a small town, nearly rural, to > the southwest of the city. > >

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Clay via Mercedes
CME would do a pretty good job of making an errant Nork nuke look like a mosquito bite. There have been a few doozies this summer that just missed us, having burped out in places that will make for really nice Northern Lights come winter. Will have dissipated by then, but if it happens come

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Love Niven. Ain’t your neck of the woods already getting ready to implement the death panels? Think I heard from the Seattle Times columnist that hospitals there are lacking staff enough to provide basic health services anymore. Pretty sure it was Spokane as well as SEA and down PDX as well.

[MBZ] 2007 GL450 - 166k miles - $9,450

2021-09-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
This isn't really in Chicago -- New Lenox is a small town, nearly rural, to the southwest of the city. https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/new-lenox-2007-mercedes-gl450/7380782241.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't see these too often

2021-09-15 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I don't know, when the heater levers actually moved, those old VWs would cook food in the back seat. Only on the highway, of course. I used to crack the drivers vent window, that would greatly increase the heat flow. needless to say, ours were pretty rusted up, my sister drove it at Purdue

Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't see these too often

2021-09-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
True - I never saw one installed however. Dad's airplane, a Cessna 195, had a Southwind gasoline heater under the rear seat. It could keep the cabin at short sleeves temps when it was -30°F outside! When properly maintained and operated they are safe - not sure how often that happens in a car

Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't see these too often

2021-09-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
The only way those old VWs ever had real heat was if they had the gas heater option. This was essentially a small gasoline-fueled furnace used to heat the interior. Always seemed like either a carbon monoxide or fire risk (or both) to me. Allan On Wed, Sep 15, 2021, at 7:32 PM, OK Don via

Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't see these too often

2021-09-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Our '74 Microbus type II had a 2.0 liter FI engine. The one time I had trouble with it, I cleaned every electrical connector I could find in the engine compartment and never had another bit of engine trouble. I finally sold it after too many winter days commuting to work with next to no heat and

[MBZ] A new take on social distancing

2021-09-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
"General Motors urged some owners of Chevrolet Bolt electric cars to park and store the vehicles at least 50 feet away from other cars to reduce the risk that a spontaneous fire could spread." https://www.autonews.com/manufacturing/gm-tells-some-bolt-owners-park-50-feet-away-other-cars

[MBZ] 2003 SLK320 - 54k miles - $12,500

2021-09-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
"Perfect condition" but has a rug on the dash. Looks nice otherwise though. https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-slk-320-mercedes-benz/7380718605.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] 1998 ML320 - 165k miles - $2,500

2021-09-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Pre-2000 MLs are to be avoided. They have a lot of "new model" issues, I’ve been told. -D > On Sep 15, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Rusty fender but otherwise doesn't look too bad. Tow hitch. > >

[MBZ] 1998 ML320 - 165k miles - $2,500

2021-09-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Rusty fender but otherwise doesn't look too bad. Tow hitch. https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-1998-mercedes-ml320/7380763341.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't see these too often

2021-09-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
As I recall, which is a dangerous thing for times so long ago, FI didn’t appear in VWs until the early 70s, and it started in the Super Beetle and Type IV (fastback/squareback/411). -D > On Sep 15, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > A friend of mine in high school had

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
My _personal_ survival vehicle would be my trusty '97 Dodge 4wd diesel pickup. 100% mechanical if you lash up the P7100's fuel cutoff solenoid, and you can push/tow-start it if need be. (Steep hill recommended!) But I am not a prepper, in any real sense, so I don't have all that other stuff.

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I presume your survival vehicle is a pre-computer controlled diesel , and part of your survival tool kit is a reliable fuel transfer [multiple options] mechanical device? Aux tanks to extend range? See Mad Max movie... ;)) On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 1:04 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I think you're putting a lot of faith into your ability to refuel, especially > after, say, a month... Again, not MY ability to refuel. Just that enough people would be able to refuel, probably by violence and theft, to help spread the fall of civilization. With EV the rot is a day's

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I think you're putting a lot of faith into your ability to refuel, especially after, say, a month... I'm also not sure, if the issue were country-wide, that there is anywhere to go short of getting out of the city. -Curt On Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 03:43:31 PM EDT, Jim Cathey

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
With an EV, your radius from home is essentially fixed. With a fueled vehicle, it isn't. That's the distinction I'm calling out. Think of the citizens as a disease vector. Starving, violent resource-less people overrunning those who might have a chance of survival/recovery, if they weren't

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I guess I don't understand, we're assuming a case where both vehicles start with no fuel/electricity? Why would we do that? An electric car sitting, turned off, will no doubt lose charge but what time period are we talking about? You seem to have some assumptions there that you haven't

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> How is that different than ICE vehicles? Fuel stores. > If I've got an electric vehicle and an off grid solar power system I can > generate power to charge my car. It might take weeks but I could do it. What are you eating while you wait for the charge? > If I'm out of gas/diesel and there

Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't see these too often

2021-09-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
A friend of mine in high school had a clapped-out Scirocco that he had removed the FI from and installed a carburetor. I gather was a pretty common home-mechanic approach to dealing with FI problems before engines got so computerized that it was no longer possible. Neighbors growing up had a

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
You might want to rethink that plan to use solar panel system to recharge your EV car after EMP event.

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
How is that different than ICE vehicles? If I've got an electric vehicle and an off grid solar power system I can generate power to charge my car. It might take weeks but I could do it. If I'm out of gas/diesel and there has been a disruption to supply I'm screwed. -Curt On Wednesday,

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The best thing that could happen to ensure the survival of our civilization, in some form after a major disruption, would be a widespread reliance on electric vehicles. When the shit hit the fan the cities and their residents would mostly all die right away, because they couldn't get out very

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> The Amish would be screwed. Too many know they're there, they'd be overrun > by two-legged rats in no time. And they're non-violent. I'd guess they forgot to read the part about "beating plowshares into swords." That said, they do own and use guns, for hunting. If they were being overrun,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't see these too often

2021-09-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I had a 71 Fastback that was the requisite VW orange. Great car after I yanked the Bosch FI and installed dual carbs. In fairness, the PO had boogered up the FI somehow and it was beyond my budget at the time to resolve, so I went the way of dual carbs. -D > On Sep 15, 2021, at 2:50 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Great Car - $15,000

2021-09-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Which Makes Me Crazy. -D > On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > My Phone Capitalizes Every First Letter That I Write > > 2015 Mercedes C300 > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-great-car/7380421029.html > > -- > --FT > >

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
EMPs are not magic. They're radio, and are subject to inverse-square laws. The devices in question are capable of surviving some level of unwanted signal, the EMP failure scenarios are just where the pulse is too strong and swamps the inputs, destructively. Things with long wires (antennae) are

Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't see these too often

2021-09-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Rode in one of these in Mpls. back when they first were sold. Very sprightly yet also cheap and inconsequential car. On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 2:44 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > In 1973, I was 13. My friend’s father bought a 1968 Squareback even though > he had

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
When I was at military survival school, the question was, "What is the difference between a gourmet and a violent scavenger?" Answer: "About 7 days without food." On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:36 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Our civilization, having opted for

Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't see these too often

2021-09-15 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
In 1973, I was 13. My friend’s father bought a 1968 Squareback even though he had never driven a manual transmission before (he didn’t even get a DL until he was 35). That summer I taught him, his wife and several other people in the neighborhood how to drive a manual in that Squareback. I love

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
An effective EMP event does not require a huge nuke. A small nuke, detonated at altitude to maximize coverage.. or several small nukes perhaps, could fry every circuit board and computer system. Your "smart phone" would be a brick, TV stations, banks, gas pumps, food stores, cash registers the

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Our civilization, having opted for efficiency over resilience, is fragile. Any sufficient disruption would have a domino effect, ending up in the 'Mad Max' scenario. People would starve/sicken/die BEFORE infrastructure repairs could be accomplished. The desperate would plunder those working to

[MBZ] OT: Don't see these too often

2021-09-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/581135949912790/ Interestingly both Angie's and my mother had VW Type III fastbacks when we were born. In realizing that Angie has decided it'd be cool to have a Type III. I've always thought the wagons were cool.I've never seen one that wasn't wicked

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
So you're thinking of a really massive EMP right? Something let off in the upper atmosphere? It's hard to an imagine an EMP of that size. Besides which theres the rest of the world, or are you imagining a world-wide EMP? -Curt On Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 02:23:03 PM EDT, Scott

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Which is why I'll never sell my 300SD. But expect many roads to become impassible with manned checkpoints (where robbers will kill you and steal your car) and millions of dead modern cars, frozen in place since the event. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
In a wide-spread EMP event essentially all modern electronic systems, including the power grid, stop working, permanent damage. Without deliveries of food (or anything else), inability to pump water, lack of refrigeration, and no modern medicine, things get bad fast. The breakdown of law

Re: [MBZ] 2006 S500 - 125k miles - $9,500

2021-09-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Stealth --FT Sent from iFōn > On Sep 15, 2021, at 12:58 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > If white/tan is for realtors, what is grey/black? > > https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-mercedes-benz-s500-for-sale/7380592560.html > >

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Those driving a 240D might survive also. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2021, at 12:58 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > >  >> >> How would an EMP event cause 90% fatalities? > > Instant return to Amish living. No groceries, no gasoline, no natural gas, no > propane, no

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>How would an EMP event cause 90% fatalities? Instant return to Amish living. No groceries, no gasoline, no natural gas, no propane, no electricity. With supply chain disruptions what they are currently, it's difficult enough to get repair parts, etc. With no supply chain at all, what happens.

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I think they mean over the medium term, lack of access to clean water, life supporting drugs etc.Certainly my own survival long term without certain medications is a bit suspect. Based on past experience I'd have about 10 years. Sometimes when considering post apocalyptic type scenarios I

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
How would an EMP event cause 90% fatalities? I’m not disputing, just trying to understand. Certainly stuff would break and cause some fatalities, but I find it difficult to imagine a number so high. -D > On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:36 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Not unlike the

Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

2021-09-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Not unlike the era when ships were made of wood and the men were made of steel. They say that a wide-scale EMP event would result in 90% fatalities. I suspect higher, especially urban areas. Given systemic failures to harden the grid maybe we would be better served learning how to survive

[MBZ] 2006 S500 - 125k miles - $9,500

2021-09-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
If white/tan is for realtors, what is grey/black? https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-mercedes-benz-s500-for-sale/7380592560.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Great Car - $15,000

2021-09-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Which Makes Me Crazy. -D > On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > My Phone Capitalizes Every First Letter That I Write > > 2015 Mercedes C300 > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-great-car/7380421029.html > > -- > --FT > >

[MBZ] Back again -- we should agree it is not a brand new car(they have a different price tag)

2021-09-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Lovely color and looks quite nice but engine concerns? '06 Mercedes-Benz E350 Wagon - $7,000(Savannah) https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-06-mercedes-benz-e350-wagon/7380505984.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] Great Car - $15,000

2021-09-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
My Phone Capitalizes Every First Letter That I Write 2015 Mercedes C300 https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-great-car/7380421029.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

[MBZ] Car does start and run but has the "black Death". Parts car 05-06 Mercedes E320 CDI Diesel - $1, 800 (Wilmington)

2021-09-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Probably abandoned at the shop... anything to fix it or is it dead dead? Has no title. https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/wilmington-parts-car-mercedes-e320-cdi/7380536409.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives