Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

> Mitch wrote: > > Without a drain cock in the bottom of the block, OM61x have a block drain. Just forward of the starter motor. I access it with a long extension through the starboard forward wheel well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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Not a good idea IMHO. You could end up with a bunch of dust and dirt in the water. The air filters in the dehumidifiers are not 100%. They are built just like the filters in most window AC units, just a plastic mesh to keep the worst of the dust bunnies from clogging up the evaporator fins. The

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

>‎I saw the PDF attached to your posting to >the list after I sent my email. And I saw your reply after I hit the send button... :) >‎Well, what do you know! I stand >corrected! It is rare occurrence when an uneducated rube such as I can correct a nuclear physicist with a PhD. The closest thing

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:11:58 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Craig sez: > >  >The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you > do not get full >flow through the radiator > > See the attached pdf file. > Especially steps A. 2. ‎And B. 6. (and everything in between) :

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:48:46 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Water softener cleaner is 100% citric acid and can be found at hardware > stores inexpensively. Good to know! Thanks! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:27:14 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > >> I removed the thermostat and >>reinstalled with the gasket but no > >> thermostat > > >The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you do > >not get full flow through the radiator. > > On 61X engines the

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Same thing really ;) -Curt On Monday, January 22, 2018, 1:42:52 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:45:26 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Piece of metal tubing. > -Curt >  > >    On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 10:22:28 AM EST, tyee165 > wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:45:26 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Piece of metal tubing. > -Curt > > > On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 10:22:28 AM EST, tyee165 > wrote: > How do block it open? Or if you are Jim Cathey, a piece of cartridge brass -- I think he has a picture on hi

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ssion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush it aga

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If you have a dehumidifier you could save it's output for this... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Seems like a waste of money to me. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes

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Disherwasher detergent is used first, to remove the oil, which then lets the rest of the water soluble chemicals do their thing. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > How well does baking soda dissolve into water? You could use it to > neutra

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Yes, it easily dissolves in a gallon of water. It's not a "really" strong solution. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > The question rises, at that concentration, would it hold the acid in > suspension? 14 oz per gallon [approx] is pretty close to absorption point, > I

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

Ace hardware stores have it in the canning section. About $7 for 32 oz. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green,

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

I agree. that is how I have always done it. In the old 'merkun iron with 4 gal cooling systems, we dumped in 2 gal prestone, then filled it with water. That way you KNOW it is good to 20 below. If you dumped in 50/50, you'd end up with 15 to 18 below, and could lose an engine or get strande

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

When I bought my first SDL, the OM603 was running without a thermostat for the first few months. I thought the thermo was stuck partly open because it never would get up to operating temp. When I finally figgered out WHERE the thermostat was, and had the new one in hand, I had to stick my fin

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

> On January 21, 2018 at 5:21 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes > wrote: > > > The Indy shop I use. Uses Distilled water when doing the citric acid > flush and mixing > with the coolant for final fill. > Remember to mix the coolant and water BEFORE adding it to the system. Without a drain cock i

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Seems like a waste of money to me. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes > wrote: > > The Indy shop I use. Uses Distilled water when doing the citric acid flush > and mixing > with the coolant for final fill. > Remember to mix the coolant and water BEFO

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The Indy shop I use. Uses Distilled water when doing the citric acid flush and mixing with the coolant for final fill. Remember to mix the coolant and water BEFORE adding it to the system. Russ On Sun,1/21/18 15:56, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I would not think you would use distille

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13.351 oz per Gal On Sun,1/21/18 15:43, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for de-calcifying the cooling system. That's roughly (very) 14 oz./gallon. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Curt, Looks like the Amazon list

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Yep... distilled for final fill... with tap water rinse, all drain cocks open... lower hose off, etc... fits what I've read so far... On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I would not think you would use distilled water just for a flush.

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I would not think you would use distilled water just for a flush. Need to use it when doing the final fill. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2018, at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Curt, > Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What > concentration do you use

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How well does baking soda dissolve into water? You could use it to neutralize the acid. Maybe this is a good reason to do the dishwasher detergent treatment after, that should be basic... -Curt On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 4:52:34 PM EST, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: The question ris

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The question rises, at that concentration, would it hold the acid in suspension? 14 oz per gallon [approx] is pretty close to absorption point, I would think Should do an "extra fine job" of pulling scale and iron rust off the interior surfaces of the cooling system followed by a flush, fl

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Holy toot! Almost a pound per gallon... Actually I've never weighed it. I wonder if you could reuse from one vehicle to another? -Curt On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 4:43:15 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for de-calcifying the

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for de-calcifying the cooling system. That's roughly (very) 14 oz./gallon. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Curt, > Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What > concentration do you use w

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To be honest if you buy that link I posted I also get a kickback through the Amazon affiliate program. For general cleaning you don't need very much, I usually get a gallon of hot water from the tap and add 3 or 4 tablespoons. One time I cooked the crystals in, I can't remember how much I finall

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Curt, Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What concentration do you use when using the dry powder? Mix with distilled water? or how, what? I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP Thanks in advance. Grant... On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Ra

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I can only tell you my experience with my '81 300TD. I saw the same thing in my '83 240D. If you run the engine up to operating temp, then shut it off and restart it'll over heat. I think with that procedure you could get away with it because you don't stop and start again but you can't drive ar

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Shut it off and restart, thats when it'll overheat. Thats how I got my '81 300TD for $300. Thats also how the previous owner managed to ruin the head gasket on that car. -Curt On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 3:33:11 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I had mine running for

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I had mine running for 30-45 minutes with no thermostat and I could barely get the needle to move up at all Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > A 61x engine with the thermostat removed WILL overheat. The thermostat closes > the passage b

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$2.24 a pound ‎ Here it is possibly cheaper, depending on shipping.  http://alphachemicals.com/citric_acid Rick

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

Correction, make that $12/lb https://www.oemercedesbenzparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-lemon-acid-000989102511 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.o

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> On January 21, 2018 at 2:58 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > FWIW, citric acid powder is available from MB, A000989102511. I don't > remember the price; I bought four or five containers of it years ago. Thanks for the part number. Looks to be about $17/lb now. https://www.

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

FWIW, citric acid powder is available from MB, A000989102511. I don't remember the price; I bought four or five containers of it years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

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http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time... -Curt On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%. That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid? It's in a handy container, just dump a p

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

A 61x engine with the thermostat removed WILL overheat. The thermostat closes the passage back into the engine forcing coolant into the radiator. Interestingly with a cold engine it won't happen right away but if you get the engine warm, shut it off and restart it'll overheat rapidly. -Curt

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, Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush Removing it won't, blocking it open will... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android   On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:   Did you remove the thermostat to flush it? 

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Mitch asks: >‎Oh, it's dry citric acid? Yup. Granules, or crystals. If I could've waited the two days for delivery, I would've ordered online. With the car on jack stands and all the coolant drained out, I needed it today and not tomorrow. I think I did a search and this stuff turned up. I wen

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This looks like the deal - under $7/lb with shipping: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005XTWMK4/ref=sspa_dk_detail_5?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B005XTWMK4&pd_rd_wg=bqBgV&pd_rd_r=544GMCGXF9RNHD846M92&pd_rd_w=5EGq2 Should last you a life time. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@ok

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> On January 21, 2018 at 12:44 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Mitch sez: > > >‎That would make it about $7/lb for citric >acid? > > Yeah. The stuff I got was 100%. Oh, it's dry citric acid? I assumed it was a solution in water. At any rate, a 10lb bag is cheaper per pound, but

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Mitch sez: >‎That would make it about $7/lb for citric >acid? Yeah. The stuff I got was 100%. Pricey, but I needed it now. I will probably buy the Milliards stuff from Amazon in a few weeks for two bucks a pound. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search li

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Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%. That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid? It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw away the bottle it came in. Mitch. > On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > ‎I've used this stuff. 100% c

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‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.  https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

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> On January 21, 2018 at 10:48 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Water softener cleaner is 100% citric acid and can be found at hardware > stores inexpensively. Most of the stuff I looked at is Phosphoric Acid. http://www.jugfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Res-Care-Data.pdf ___

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Water softener cleaner is 100% citric acid and can be found at hardware stores inexpensively. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/m

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>> I removed the thermostat and >>reinstalled with the gasket but no >> thermostat >The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you do >not get full flow through the radiator. On 61X engines the thermostat is removed. On 60X engines the thermostat is blocked open. At least th

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How do block it open? Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes Date: 2018-01-21 8:09 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List , Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush Removing it

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Removing it won't, blocking it open will... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure there is good flow through the whole system. Jaime On Sat, Jan 20, 20

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On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:53:06 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no > thermostat The best way is to put in a blocked-open thermostat, otherwise you do not get full flow through the radiator. > On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime

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It is. Maybe the newest models might need the g48 but g05 is still approved Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > But isn't G05 approved for MB? Is there a cutoff year? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > 1982 300CD > 2005 E320 4matic > Wickford RI > >

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But isn't G05 approved for MB? Is there a cutoff year? Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 2005 E320 4matic Wickford RI On Jan 20, 2018 8:24 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > That’s the honey colored stuff. The current MB AF is blue. > > -D > > > > On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mer

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Right. It’s not worth the $10 extra per gallon for any of my cars. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > That’s the honey colored stuff. The current MB AF is blue. > > -D > > >> On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes >> wr

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You need to have citric acid on hand - for cleaning auto cooling systems, removing mineral deposits from the dishwasher, coffee pot, tea kettle, etc. (I'm guessing that your water is rather hard like ours is). http://www.chemistrystore.com/Chemicals_A-F-Citric_Acid_Anhydrous.html (where I've bough

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That’s the honey colored stuff. The current MB AF is blue. -D > On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >> wrote: >> >> >> Not sure what you mean > > I hope he means Zerex G-05. > But isn't th

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Well I have not filled it up yet because I have to wait for a thermostat to arrive.  I only use G05 On 1/20/2018 6:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: Not sure what you mean I hope he means Zerex G-05. But isn't the

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> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > Not sure what you mean I hope he means Zerex G-05. But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/

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Not sure what you mean. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 5:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Next time refill with Zerex coolant. > >> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no therm

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Next time refill with Zerex coolant. On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no thermostat > > > > On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: > >> Did you remove

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I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no thermostat On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: Did you remove the thermostat to flush it? It'll help make sure there is good flow through the whole system. Jaime On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C.

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Did you remove the thermostat to flush it? It'll help make sure there is good flow through the whole system. Jaime On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a > littl

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I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a little easier. I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > The cooling system in my old 300TD ha

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Well I just finished it up and pulled it back in the shop. Looking down in the radiator cap opening the top fins of the radiator look sparkling clean. I will say when I flushed it again after running the prestone in it a lot more junk came out, then on the next flush it was pretty clear. I would

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge. I had a hose nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the heater and the block. That seemed to do the job. ___

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I read about that but did not do it. It does not seem oily. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Is it oily? Isn't that the case where you put a little dishwasher detergent > (not dish soap) in? > > -Curt > > > On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 3:54:21 PM

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I spoke too soon. After flushing it the 2nd time while running it came out clear. I put the prestone in it and it’s running again for another 20 minutes. Will then flush it again and call it good. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > > So I filled it u

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I would wait until you get clear water, or it’s just going to be crudded up (still), just not as bad as before. I would flush it from the hose on the back of the engine with the radiator cap off. Run water through it for 5-10 minutes, then close it up and run it and check. My 82 300SD had a c

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Is it oily? Isn't that the case where you put a little dishwasher detergent (not dish soap) in? -Curt On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 3:54:21 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the line going into the he

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So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the line going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran hose into the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice so far and each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pul

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Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got to the store and buy a sh*tload of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - the stuff in the packets, not the container. It’s pretty much the same thing. I use it for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that n

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I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it since

Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever > seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is > everyone’s preferred method? 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat

[MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is everyone’s preferred method? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okie