Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > I don't trust the steel pinned stands any more than the > cast ratcheting ones, the steel is usually a bit thin > and I've seen the pin shearing its way through a tube. > I just got a Griot's Garage catalog in the mail with these in it: http://

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Jim Cathey
I do not see how the ratcheting kind of jack stand could _ever_ be released when it was under compression. Mine sure won't! I had one cheapie whose handle came loose from the pawl, the roll pin broke. I just repinned it. The problem was you couldn't release it, not that it was unsafe. I don't

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin Kraly wrote: I'm throwing out my Dad's junk stands. Ironically, he gave me his good old Craftsman pedistal stands with the pin that fits into the holes for proper height adjustment. We've used these ratcheting stands for years, but they won't be used anymore. Could be a good move. I c

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Kevin Kraly
It's a tripod design, not pedistal as I had written before. They must be built like the old Craftsmans. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/ar

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Kevin Kraly
I'm throwing out my Dad's junk stands. Ironically, he gave me his good old Craftsman pedistal stands with the pin that fits into the holes for proper height adjustment. We've used these ratcheting stands for years, but they won't be used anymore. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon __

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: The only way one could collapse is if the pawl or the tooth on the stand itself sheared off If you slide the stand under the car and raise it to meet the frame, it's possible to partially engage the ratchet. When that happens I either drop the ratchet one notch or raise t

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Allan Streib
Randy Bennell writes: > Sort of a continuation of my earlier post, but it should not be too > difficult to rig something to hold the ratchet part down so it would > not readily change no matter how hard it got bumped or banged. The problem I have with the notion of the ratchet style stand diseng

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Fmiser
> Randy Bennell wrote: > This fellow apparently > left the tire in place under the one front spindle but it did > not provide enough extra space to save him. That is a lesson > to remember. Which is under the suspension - not the frame. So the spring compresses before it carries weight. And a s

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Walt Zarnoch
t; >> I've got a set of the ratchet type but I only ever use them on the lowest >> setting which is about as high as my floor jack will lift... >> >> -Curt >> >> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:59:54 -0400 >> From: "Gerry Archer" >

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Randy Bennell
but I only ever use them on the lowest setting which is about as high as my floor jack will lift... -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:59:54 -0400 From: "Gerry Archer" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter Message-ID:<1334709B885F4D59A425911

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Randy Bennell
Several possible causes but the final answer is that who ever is going to crawl under needs to be satisfied that they are locked and steady. I can't say that I think the folks that sold them should be sued. There are so many variables with things like this. If the ratchet type scares you, then

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I've got a set of the ratchet type but I only ever use them on the lowest setting which is about as high as my floor jack will lift... -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:59:54 -0400 From: "Gerry Archer" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] A F

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Gerry Archer
Having used tripod type stands for years before cheaper "square stands" became available, I found that is was safer when the stands were not oriented in the same direction and that no more than two tripod stands be used at a time. The problems I had were situations that occurred when I was pul

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > I did find these,  http://www.mile-x.com/esco-10497-3-ton-jack-stand.aspx > > ESCO seems to be an Ohio based company, anyone familiar with them or > these stands?  The tripod design would seem to be very stable. > I did a lot of searching fo

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Allan Streib
I have been looking on-line for pin-type stands, and finding very few in the 3 - 6 ton range, and the heavier duty ones are $300 each and up. I did find these, http://www.mile-x.com/esco-10497-3-ton-jack-stand.aspx ESCO seems to be an Ohio based company, anyone familiar with them or these stands

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Gerry Archer
I bought the same stands, either from Sears or Walmarts last year. After using them a couple of times and an incident of one slipping, I decided that the stands were not safe. I then bought four "pin type" stands from Autozone which are safe unless a metal part of the stand breaks since there

Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread Allan Streib
A sad story indeed. My jack stands are the same low-cost, made-in-China "ratchet" type... it's very hard for me to imagine that bumping the handle with the ratchet engaged and under load could dislodge it. I wonder if maybe the whole stand was cocked a bit and bumping it knocked it over. Ho

[MBZ] A Father's Letter

2011-03-24 Thread toms cat1
A tragedy occurred locally recently... I may have posted it here... in which a young man was crushed by his car while changing his oil. I posted it as a cautionary safety public service message in several BMW and Mercedes forums. Unbeknownst to me, word of my post apparently reached the fam