Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-10-01 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out? 'Don't remember any significant visual differences. Wilton - Original Message

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-10-01 Thread WILTON
'Don't remember any significant visual differences. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of A

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-10-01 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
rience to share? Wilton - did your new Evap look better than the original? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC di

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I've got a can of R134 with green dye, will add that and start looking for the leak(s). How many bets for/against the evaporator? Could be seals somewhere. Are the late W124 evaps supposed to be more durable than the early ones? At le

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-30 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
iebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out? > I would imagine icing inside a line > would show an unusually high high-side pressure?

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Jim Cathey
I would imagine icing inside a line would show an unusually high high-side pressure? The icing is not inside the line, it's in the airflow path. If you have enough water inside the system to freeze, you've got a serious problem! Airflow naturally reduces when the fan speed goes down, you're loo

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Brian Toscano
The fact that the compressor stays engaged suggests its not the air temp sender? -Original Message- From: "Brian Toscano" Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:50:24 To: Mercedes Okie Benz Mailing List Reply-To: brian.tosc...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Brian Toscano
0" Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:47:08 To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out? Thanks Brian - I'm hoping for something simple and cheap - almost nothing else on this car has been

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Mitch, I think the in-car temperature sensor is located next to front overhead/map light and sunroof switch? I know that's the location for my '87, haven't dug into the manual yet for this car. On my '87, the test is to apply a square pie

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
010 2:39 PM To: Mercedes Okie Benz Mailing List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out? With a guage - Low pressure or even vacuum on the low pressure side. On my Subaru when its evap temp sender wasn't working the low psi side would frost all the way to the compressor! ---

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
e if the suction can hold it in place. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-ou

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:47 AM To: Mercedes Okie Benz Mailing List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out? Is the airflow reduced as the temps go to ambient? Do the low pres

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out? That or a bad temp sensor, or loose connection. Verify that

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Brian Toscano
ender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:32:30 To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out? Thanks Loren - I guess Brian's response gives the TS hint - reduced airflow - if the evap is icing up. C

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out? Could be icing up the evap or could have ice blocking the line if it was not evacuated well last time. >On my '95 E300, the AC starts out strong, but after about 20 minutes it >is noticeably weaker and eventually it

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Could your temp sensor be monitoring the temperature under the dash, and shutting down the A/C when it got to be cool and comfy under there? Maybe a little smoke near the sensor intake grille to see if it gets sucked into the grille? Mitch. ___ http://ww

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Brian Toscano
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out? That or a bad temp sensor, or loose connection. Verify that the cabin temp suction fan is working, and that the monovalve is holding. My Mom's TE is doing this, I plan to re-solder the PBCU connectors soon to see if I can fix it, every

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Peter Frederick
ssage- >From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, > 53310" >Sent: Sep 29, 2010 6:50 AM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out? > >On my '95 E300, the AC starts out strong, but after about 20 minutes it >

Re: [MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Dieselhead
Could be icing up the evap or could have ice blocking the line if it was not evacuated well last time. On my '95 E300, the AC starts out strong, but after about 20 minutes it is noticeably weaker and eventually it fades completely away (goes from very cold to cold to sort-of-cold to ambient).

[MBZ] AC diagnosis - cause of AC fade-out?

2010-09-29 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
On my '95 E300, the AC starts out strong, but after about 20 minutes it is noticeably weaker and eventually it fades completely away (goes from very cold to cold to sort-of-cold to ambient). AC compressor clutch is staying engaged. Could this be a leaking monovalve insert? Next time I can play,