USAA applied temp. credit to my acct yesterday. Several posts (well, at
least 2, anyway) to that effect today.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Larry T"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
By initiating a claim wi
:14 PM, WILTON wrote:
My $267.79 paid via USAA credit card. How was yours paid? USAA
Credit Card Services has initiated an investigation.
Wilton
- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM
Subject
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:30:35 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:10 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Uh, I beg to disagree. I bought a $1k VFD on fleabay, and the
>>seller shipped an inverter, which is worth about half as much.
>
>You
On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:43 AM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How many HP? It seems I am buying them all the time. We use 1 HP to 50 HP.
> Right now I have no spares, but have 2 on the way.
I will get back to you on Wednesday or Thursday off list.
Rick
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:04 PM, "Craig" wrote:
> What is a VFD? Variable Frequency Drive?
Yes.
>
> Where do you use them?
Any place 480v 3 phase AC motors need to be speed controlled. Conveyors,
industrial mixers, centrifuges, to name a few applications.
They are not as exact as a servo syst
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:30:35 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:10 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Uh, I beg to disagree. I bought a $1k VFD on fleabay, and the
> >>seller shipped an inverter, which is worth about half as much.
> >
>
Yes.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Greece has an idiotic customs office. NOTHING gets to Greece on time. Greeks
>> are not known to anything in a timely fashion!
>
>
> Don't they retire faster than any other "public ser
I knew a career military officer that was a neighbor off himself on Crete. At
least that was the official story. Never did figure out how someone could
commit suicide by cutting their throat and flinging themselves off a precipice.
(He was a spook, so the sketchy story just adds to the speculat
Crete is truly amazing. The island has everything, literally.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Spent a week in Crete - utterly amazing island!. Crete is the only place
> on earth - AFAIK - where you can stand on a marine beach and observe sheep
> and
clay wrote:
> Dan, it has become a matter of principle.
>
> we are all screwed
No disagreement.
But, we are also human.
Human is prone to failure. A record of Trent's failure was put up a
few weeks ago, fwiw.
Human is prone to breakage - perhaps Trent is on his back with some
severe illness and n
Dieselhead wrote:
> Even the sellers model number, (what was delivered) is described by the mfgr
> as an inverter. But I need more "proof" ShEESH!
UNREAL.
mao
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Spent a week in Crete - utterly amazing island!. Crete is the only place
on earth - AFAIK - where you can stand on a marine beach and observe sheep
and goats grazing, vineyards, lemon groves, olive trees, and in the
distance snow capped mountains.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Rich Thomas <
r
That sorta summarizes my experience on a trip there in '01. The ferry
goes on strike for reasons no one understood (the cops "guarding" the
parking lot in particular), and the subway that stopped in the middle of
a tunnel for about 20 minutes, and the conductor was sneaking nips from
a flask,
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
Greece has an idiotic customs office. NOTHING gets to Greece on time. Greeks
are not known to anything in a timely fashion!
Don't they retire faster than any other "public servants"?
Mitch.
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Greece has an idiotic customs office. NOTHING gets to Greece on time. Greeks
are not known to anything in a timely fashion!
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Yeah, it's not foolproof. I once nearly got negative feedback when I
> shipped an item to Gr
It took that long with Chase earlier this year on something unrelated.
Eventually they sent me a letter that said the investigation was closed.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> I called WF and they are doing the same thing, will put a
I called WF and they are doing the same thing, will put a temporary
credit in my acct for the disputed amount, then the whole dispute
process takes 45-90 days (!!). I gave them all his info, she didn't
really seem to care to have it or not, I guess they just bang on his
account or something.
Yeah, it's not foolproof. I once nearly got negative feedback when I
shipped an item to Greece that took 30 days to get there. Not my fault,
either.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I NEVER deal with any ebayer with a less than 99 percent approval rati
I NEVER deal with any ebayer with a less than 99 percent approval rating.
I alwyas read every negative report to get a handle on whether to trust the
seller. So far, only one problem in 00s of transactiosn
This clown had a 99%+ rating and runs a seemingly legit brick and
mortar biz. But his a
I NEVER deal with any ebayer with a less than 99 percent approval rating.
I alwyas read every negative report to get a handle on whether to trust the
seller. So far, only one problem in 00s of transactiosn
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 17, 201
On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:10 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
Uh, I beg to disagree. I bought a $1k VFD on fleabay, and the
seller shipped an inverter, which is worth about half as much.
You wouldn't happen to need a real VFD would you? I have two I need to sell.
Rick
Sent fro
ot;
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Trent has refunded the $267.79 charge for un-delivered parts to my USAA
credit card account. Thank you, Trent, for doing the right thing.
Wilton
- Ori
On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:10 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Uh, I beg to disagree. I bought a $1k VFD on fleabay, and the seller
> shipped an inverter, which is worth about half as much.
You wouldn't happen to need a real VFD would you? I have two I need to sell.
Rick
Sent
- Original Message -
From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
>I second Darrens suggestion. Is there anyone on the list who DID NOT us
WILTON writes:
> I left msgs on answering machine, others that were supposedly Faxed to 'im;
> I also Faxed msgs directly and via registered mail. Still no answer and no
> parts at a cost of $267.79 via USAA Credit Card Services.
Which you will not have to pay.
Seriously folks, just do a cha
I second Darrens suggestion. Is there anyone on the list who DID
NOT use a credit card for payment? All credit cards that I've had
experience with protect the buyer against this sort of thing.
Paying by Paypal gives you two layers of protection since Paypal
also protects the buyer.
Gerry
Hear hear!
-Curt
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:19:02 -0400
From: "WILTON"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Message-ID: <3B7C1147A8BB4D9EA5473B2CCD48F53A@wiltonPC>
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best and a full and satisfactory recovery.
Wilton
- Original Message ----- From: "Rusty Cullens"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Dear lister's,
I am horribly grieved at what is hap
- Original Message - From: "Rusty Cullens"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Dear lister's,
I am horribly grieved at what is happening. Had I known this, I would
have just closed the b
'ZACKLY.
WILTON
- Original Message -
From: "Rich Thomas"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
$149.66, not enough to render me destitute but enough to piss me off big
time
t on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-Original Message-
From: Rick Knoble
Sender: "Mercedes"
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:36:33
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:42
WILTON wrote:
Police? I vaguely remember East German police as being referred to as
"po-pos," n'est-ce pas; ist es nicht?
Wilton
Yes now that you mention it. Po-Po was also little kids slang for
butt. Make what you will of that one. I well remember po-po
klatshe mit brett.
Manfred
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$149.66, not enough to render me destitute but enough to piss me off big
time. Actually, it isn't the money (well, you know when someone says,
"It isn't the money..."), it is mostly the inconvenience, the lack of
communication, and being blown off by a guy I put some trust into. And
having my
Dan, it has become a matter of principle. Nobody will win when you fight on
principle. Trent seems to have done folks on the list wrong, after not putting
a positive foot forward at the changing of the guard. The list got an intro,
some early positive mention, and then it went big time south,
Agree.
On Jun 17, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:29 PM, "Rich Thomas"
> wrote:
>
>> Debit card, the order hit my bank acct almost immediately after placing the
>> order.
>
>
> Never, never, never, never purchase anything online or over the phone with a
> debit
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:02:35 + "Rusty Cullens"
wrote:
> Dear lister's,
>
> I am horribly grieved at what is happening. Had I known this, I would
> have just closed the business. I am still trying to contact Trent but I
> too, can only leave message after message. I have even texted his cell
quot;it's time to be nice." How much
nicer can one expect? I've asked for some response many times for nearly a
week and have received none.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Darren Marshall"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2
- Original Message - From: "Rusty Cullens"
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
>
>
> Dear lister's,
>
> I am horribly grieved at what is happening. Had
I wish you all the best
and a full and satisfactory recovery.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Rusty Cullens"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Dear lister's,
I am horribly g
If you're only looking for your money back, I would just contact the card
issuer and tell them it is a fraudulent charge because you never received
your merchandise. With a credit card there should be an immediate credit
while they investigate and many/most credit card companies offer $0
liability
s and good luck to all.
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-Original Message-
From: Rick Knoble
Sender: "Mercedes"
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:36:33
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:29 PM, "Rich Thomas"
wrote:
> Debit card, the order hit my bank acct almost immediately after placing the
> order.
Never, never, never, never purchase anything online or over the phone with a
debit card. NEVER. It is my understanding that you do not have the same level
On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:42 PM, "Mountain Man" wrote:
> Is it time in this thread to post some of the banned info that
> circulated a couple months ago? Or did --R put that stuff up here
> also? In which case, similar situation only worse this time? i.e.
> real personal problems?
Already been do
'Zackly.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Randy Bennell"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
On 17/06/2013 3:42 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
Is it time in this thread to pos
;Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Is it time in this thread to post some of the banned info that
circulated a couple months ago? Or did --R put that stuff up here
also? In which case, similar situation on
On 17/06/2013 3:42 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
Is it time in this thread to post some of the banned info that
circulated a couple months ago? Or did --R put that stuff up here
also? In which case, similar situation only worse this time? i.e.
real personal problems? So, do we nail him to the wall
t;
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 4:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
>
>
>> Rich,
>>
>> Just out of curiosity and I am sorry if I missed it earlier, how much money
>> are your out?
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>
Agreed.
On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
> Is it time in this thread to post some of the banned info that
> circulated a couple months ago? Or did --R put that stuff up here
> also? In which case, similar situation only worse this time? i.e.
> real personal problems? So, do w
Is it time in this thread to post some of the banned info that
circulated a couple months ago? Or did --R put that stuff up here
also? In which case, similar situation only worse this time? i.e.
real personal problems? So, do we nail him to the wall to extract $$
he doesn't have nor is able to
Even, if not much money, a helluva lota principle.
There is no substitute for integrity in any endeavor.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Jon Agne"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a
Mine was pretty quick, too. Have you you talked to bank about it?
Is there any provision for bank involvement?
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Rich Thomas"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Tren
Anytime anyone is taken advantage of, it really hurts. There are different
ways and means to recover losses. I was just curious, so that I could
recommend possible avenues.
Jon
On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> That really hurts.
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:04 PM
That really hurts.
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Jon Agne wrote:
> Rich,
>
> Just out of curiosity and I am sorry if I missed it earlier, how much
> money are your out?
>
> Jon
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
>
> > I left a message (the answering service apparently texts
Rich,
Just out of curiosity and I am sorry if I missed it earlier, how much money are
your out?
Jon
On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
> I left a message (the answering service apparently texts or emails him or
> something, it is not possible to reach him directly) that I was in
ilton
- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM
Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the
money he took for the goods he has not shipped
I left a message (the answering service apparently texts or emails him
or something, it is not possible to reach him directly) that I was
initiating legal action against him. THought it best to at least give
him a warning.
--R
On 6/17/13 12:24 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote:
He stated he would p
;Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I left a message (the answering service apparently texts or emails him or
something, it is not possible to reach him directly) that I was initiating
legal action against him. TH
I think you need to contact the State's Attorney or County Attorney
Contact info: http://www.usa.gov/directory/stateconsumer/illinois.shtml
Per:
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0221-billed-merchandise-you-never-received-heres-what-do
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (166,
Police? I vaguely remember East German police as being referred to as
"po-pos," n'est-ce pas; ist es nicht?
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Andrew Strasfogel"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:06 PM
Subject: Re:
"po-po" is slang for the police. Rich feels he has been stolen from and
the theft happened in Sterling, IL.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (166,xxx mi)
On 6/17/2013 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Curious as to why Rich is dealing with a "po-po office" (whatever that is)
ervices has initiated an investigation.
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" >> constructivity.net
>>>
>>> >>
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
>>> Sent: Monday
Dan Penoff wrote:
After all, as I understood the arrangements, doesn't Rusty have a vested
interest in Trent's success (or failure)?
I don't know if the price depends on future revenues from existing customers, or
if Trent's ability to finish paying Rusty depends on future profitability.
M
his calls and he had done what he could...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:49:56 -0400
> From: Dan Penoff
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
> Message-ID: <34ef6aa0-bcd1-4cfb-89e0-2fcef0175...@penoff.com>
>
Me, too, re. Gary/Rusty.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Rich Thomas"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I called the local Sterling IL po-po who said I had to file a comp
List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I understood Rusty's last missive to say that he was in the same boat
as us, that Trent wouldn't return his calls and he had done what he
could...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:49:56 -
In your case, is there a bank or credit card company involved?
My credit card company (USAA) is involved.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Rich Thomas"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is
That's what I understood, too.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Curt Raymond"
To: "Diesel List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I understood Rusty's last missive to say that he was in the same bo
I understood Rusty's last missive to say that he was in the same boat as us,
that Trent wouldn't return his calls and he had done what he could...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:49:56 -0400
From: Dan Penoff
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thi
with a credit card did you not? Call them, they'll fix his
> gizzard in a hurry.
>
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:32:20 -0400
> From: Rich Thomas
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
> Message-ID: <51bf2c04.2020
omas" >
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM
Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he
took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file
a compl
xplanation soon" has fallen flat.
You did pay with a credit card did you not? Call them, they'll fix his gizzard
in a hurry.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:32:20 -0400
From: Rich Thomas
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Message-ID: <51
n List"
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
>
>
>
> I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he
>> took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file
>> a comp
My $267.79 paid via USAA credit card. How was yours paid? USAA Credit Card
Services has initiated an investigation.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Rich Thomas"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM
Subject: [MBZ] At this time
I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money
he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to
file a complaint against him.
I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them.
--R
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