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gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice > > Previous system was never functional. PO thought his cable was broken, but > had never adjusted the PB. Closest wrench did an inspect and wanted to > replace all the brakes for mucho diner

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...@comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice Previous system was never functional.  PO thought his cable was broken, but had never adjusted the PB.  Closest wrench did an inspect and wanted to replace all the brakes for mucho dinero.  I

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Crawl under there and check that switch to see that it's working, and adjust it so it's off when the pedal is up all the way (if it still works). On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:20 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > I have yanked and cranked on it by hand to no impact on the lamp.

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Previous system was never functional. PO thought his cable was broken, but had never adjusted the PB. Closest wrench did an inspect and wanted to replace all the brakes for mucho dinero. I did it my own self. as the fronts were still meaty enough, just the rears with the leaking hard line

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On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:20:40 -0800 clay via Mercedes wrote: > I have yanked and cranked on it by hand to no impact on the lamp. > There is not much travel at the pedal. I need to keep on adjusting the > PB at the rotors since it is all new. It sounds like you need to put

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I have yanked and cranked on it by hand to no impact on the lamp. There is not much travel at the pedal. I need to keep on adjusting the PB at the rotors since it is all new. clay > On Jan 16, 2017, at 5:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > I would imagine

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On a 123 its on the brake lever itself, under the dash I mean... -Curt From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best A

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Andrew can put his cat on a treadmill (chasing a live mouse) that drive a Bosch alternator from one of his former POS wagons, then use the electrons generated to recharge his "lektrik bicycle. THAT would be true greenie weenie! Mitch Haley via Mercedes January

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I do believe that red light also lights up when the brake fluid is low. So you might want to check that or the sensor there. Sometimes the parking brake doesn't come up all the way if it wasn't oiled for a while. Might want to pull up on the peddle and see if that is it. Manfred clay via

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I would imagine the parking brake light switch is at the foot pedal mechanism, similar to a 124 and 123. Have you tried lifting the pedal with your toe to make sure it is all the way back up? - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:44 PM, clay via Mercedes

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OOO On that note. Anybody able to point me toward the parking brake sensor? While swapping in LCD cluster lights, I put in a working bulb where the parking brake indicator lived. Now the light stays lit and will not go out even when the parking brake is off. W126 SDL clay > On Jan 14,

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Any shop that wants to turn my rotors is asked to return my keys and cease work on the vehicle. Rotors are very cheap compared to the charge the last time I had rotors ground on a toyota. On top of the sales job and telling me how many more miles I was going to be able to drive, I ended up

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Prius? No, it's even worse than that. Andrew and I have been shopping for Spark EVs. Andrew even test drove one (easier for him, he lives in a state where they actually sold them). Mitch. > On January 16, 2017 at 5:03 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > He has

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Not a problem. If you truly want to be abused, you can likely buy Andrew's other junker for big bucks and suffer like Kyle. There is very little doubt that Andrew, being a good liberal, fails to sleep at night while thinking of the harm his dirty old diesel is doing to the world's atmosphere.

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That may be the best retort ever! Too bad Kleb does not maintain the hall of fame anymore! that is worthy of being archived. Kyle Arola via Mercedes January 14, 2017 at 3:41 PM Rick, I would accept your most generous offer but unfortunately I don't feel that

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I've reused them even if they are wavy. I have also taken a grinder and removed the outer lip to make the removal of pads easier. But, I have NEVER had them turned. At that point, new rotors is the way to go. Jim Cathey via Mercedes January 14, 2017 at 7:38

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Thassa keeper! Thanks Philip (for all of us) fmiser via Mercedes January 13, 2017 at 9:57 PM Kyle wrote: Ordered a set, both sides and homokenitic, from CJV in Colorado. I will let you know how they are doing in 5 years or so... Seems like an appropriate

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Thanks to Manfred and Max tor correcting my nomenclature. I could never keep those names straight. I'll try to use this memory trick: homo means same and the homo axle is the same (splined) at both ends. > -Original Message- > From: MG via Mercedes > > Reverse the two names and you

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http://www.google.com/search?q=homokinetic+axle=ivns=isch=u=univ=X=0ahUKEwiTkoilq8XRAhVs9IMKHaZlBs0QsAQIDQ http://www.google.com/search?q=annular+axle=isch=annular+axle_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.3...21951.25019.0.25538.18.10.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.00...1c..34.mobile-heirloom-serp..18.0.0.4Jt8mqcKSa8 I

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Scott, Homokinetic are the single piece (remember: homo is the root) axle, that require the differential to be opened to remove the axle. Can-annular are two-piece. The inner piece is simply a stub that is inserted into the differential, same hole the homokinetic was removed from, and it

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Homokenitic is the original style without the flange and bolts. You have to open the differential to swap the axles. Annular is the kind with the flange that you don't have to open the differential when you replace them. I did read that, and another 30 articles or so about swapping the axles

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Reverse the two names and you will be right. Manfred Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Sounds like Kyle read this FCP article but here's a link for interested others: https://www.fcpeuro.com/blog/posts/the-axle-dilemma-oem-rebuilt-used Both my 79 TD (since sold) and 82 SD (still have) came

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Sounds like Kyle read this FCP article but here's a link for interested others: https://www.fcpeuro.com/blog/posts/the-axle-dilemma-oem-rebuilt-used Both my 79 TD (since sold) and 82 SD (still have) came with the annular style axle (where you need to open the differential to replace an axle).

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If I remember you are supposed to put the new axle in with the original shim and there should be no visible play but the clip should just be able to be turned in the groove. If there is play then you have to measure it and get a new spacer of the correct size. The problem is that MB doesn't

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Got it. In 2 weeks I am doing the rear wheel bearings, because I can, and the axles... Kyle On Jan 15, 2017 4:20 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" wrote: > MG wrote: >> > > You forgot one crucial step. Take the washer off the >> differential end shaft and put it on the

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MG wrote: You forgot one crucial step. Take the washer off the differential end shaft and put it on the differential end shaft of the new axle. What washer? There is one on the bolt holding the axle in the hub.. Ah! The shims. Right. There is one or more precision thickness shims that

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I did. That is where I ordered from. Steve was super helpful. I just did not go into detail about the swap back. He did tell me about the spacers, which I am assuming are the shims... Kyle On Jan 15, 2017 1:40 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: > Another thought:

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Another thought: consult with the place the Dan linked? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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Will do. Thanks Max! Kyle On Jan 15, 2017 1:31 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: > Check the service manual, from foggy memory they are setting the gap inside > the differential for the circlip. I'm sure MB has some special tool to > measure the run-out in order to

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Check the service manual, from foggy memory they are setting the gap inside the differential for the circlip. I'm sure MB has some special tool to measure the run-out in order to determine the shim thickness. I think that "close enough" is usually the result of re-using the original shim. If

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Yeah that part is important. I will be doing one side at a time so not to swap shims side to side. Don't they have to do with differential/axle spacing and sized for specific sides? Thanks! On Jan 14, 2017 11:34 PM, "MG via Mercedes" wrote: My bad. Incorrect term on my

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My bad. Incorrect term on my part. Manfred Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Good catch! Shim really, not just a washer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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Good catch! Shim really, not just a washer. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 14, 2017 9:45:48 PM EST, MG via Mercedes wrote: >You forgot one crucial step. Take the washer off the differential >end shaft and put it on the differential end shaft

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You forgot one crucial step. Take the washer off the differential end shaft and put it on the differential end shaft of the new axle. Manfred fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Kyle wrote: Ordered a set, both sides and homokenitic, from CJV in Colorado. I will let you know how they are doing in 5

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In my limited experience, the OE axles only fail when the boots rip and dirt enters the joint. Those OE boots were quite robust and could develop deep surface cracks long before opening a hole. Rebuild and third-party axles had a poor reputation, at least in the past, so used OE axles from a

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Thanks Roger! Good info... The rears are pretty worn so I am going to do both pads and rotors without trying to turn them. I am fairly certain the rotors can't be turned on my case. I am replacing with Brembro ceramic pads and rotors. I will inspect the fronts after I finish the axles next week.

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I saw that and figured I would get to that later. New unit was installed. I will verify the pads when I am in there. Thanks! On Jan 14, 2017 8:58 AM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: > Don't forget the parking brake pads. Rear rotor has a small drum in > center, parking

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Rick, I would accept your most generous offer but unfortunately I don't feel that passing my misfortune onto you is worth so little. If you really want to double your misfortune, as I have done, then I suggest a paltry, nay measly, €15,000. You see Rick, you must pay to earn this right. That

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It is becoming painfully obvious that you have purchased a poorly maintained POS. When it was repaired, it has been repaired with the cheapest, most inferior parts that were available. It the interest of relieving you of any more grief from this less than optimal purchase, I am willing to

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Draining and opening the differential is not required if replacing a two-piece axle with a two-piece axle. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 13, 2017 10:57:10 PM EST, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: >> Kyle wrote: > >> Ordered a set, both sides and

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Don't forget the parking brake pads. Rear rotor has a small drum in center, parking brake assembly inside the drum. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

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Kyle, In the 20+ years with my old 617s, it's always been basically replace pads twice, on third time, replace the rotors also. Once I got 3 sets of pads, but that was once. Should not be expensive on the 123. The rears go a long time compared to the fronts (pads and rotors). As it seems with

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So, did I understand correctly that the passenger side axle is a non-MB replacement, and that this is also the only one that is dead? You _can_ turn a MB rotor, but there is a thickness spec and there's not a lot of fat to trim. Turning them is definitely not on the 'always do' list, like it is

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Ahhh. I had heard such things but I was pretty sure that was just talk to get more of my money... Bummer. Rotors added to the list! At least my list is shrinking now.. Kyle On Jan 14, 2017 6:25 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Mercedes rotors should not be turned.

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Mercedes rotors should not be turned. If they’re out of spec they should be replaced. Rears are cheap, even from the dealer. 126 423 00 12 http://www.mbpartsworld.com/p/Mercedes_1985_300-TD-TURBODIESEL/BRAKE-DISC/7919906/1264230012.html Dan > On Jan 14, 2017, at 6:18 AM, Kyle Arola via

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Andrew, Clunking when I manipulate the hub, with the wheel off, from the cv joint closest to the wheel. I can see the little bit of play before the shaft starts to move. Knock\clunk when making left turns at 20+ mph also. It started about 4 days ago at 35+mph left turn corners. Lightly and now

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That is AWESOME Thanks! Now I am going to do the wheelbearings and brakes while I am in there as well. Pads are worn and get the rotors turned also... Nothing like a new rear end! Whoot! Kyle On Jan 13, 2017 10:53 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" wrote: > Kyle wrote: >> > >

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What were the symptoms again? Did you notice them on the way down to FL or subsequently? Whenever I had an axle problem there was a conspicuous knocking noise at highway speeds on the straightaway. Unmistakable. On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 10:57 PM, fmiser via Mercedes

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Meade wrote: There are two types: Homokinetic (single piece axle) and Can-annular (two piece axle). Later axles are usually the two piece, so that is probably what you have on your car. Both my '85s have single piece axles. And I agree that keeping an original is a good idea. I have

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Kyle wrote: Ordered a set, both sides and homokenitic, from CJV in Colorado. I will let you know how they are doing in 5 years or so... Seems like an appropriate time to post my replacement procedure. Last time I replaced an axle shaft (on a wagon) it took me less than an hour from putting

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Ordered a set, both sides and homokenitic, from CJV in Colorado. I will let you know how they are doing in 5 years or so... The other company I was looking at is still manufactured in Asia... Kyle On Jan 13, 2017 2:32 PM, "Mountain Man via Mercedes" wrote: > Isn't there

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Isn't there a guy in Carolina that rebuilds these? He did it properly, as I recall. The lube inside the boot obtainable from dealer is liquid, not grease. ?anyone? tin-man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

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N'T on the way out. If theres still grease in >> >the >> >> joint its very unlikely to fail... >> >> -Curt >> >> >> >> From: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com> >> >> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Dis

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e Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com> > >> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:15 AM > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice > >> > >

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la1...@gmail.com> >> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:15 AM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice >> >> And my problem with "Good Used" is

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anufacture that he claimed were great. I put a set on my '83 240D >>> and ran 'em 25,000 miles with no issues... >>> -Curt >>> >>> From: MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> &

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a set on my '83 240D and ran 'em 25,000 miles with no issues... -Curt From: MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: trainpain2...@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice Which

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et most of them are just a new boot and new >>> grease or new boot, new balls, new grease... >>> -Curt >>> >>> From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>

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: Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice The boots are fine. It is the CV joint where it enters th

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http://www.cvjaxles.com/ These are the only axles you should buy. As Drew was the guru for interior wood, these guys are the absolute pinnacle of quality for rebuilt MB axles. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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If he abuses you a little thats sort of par for the course... -Curt From: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ

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learola1...@gmail.com> > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:32 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice > > Thanks Manfred, I will not be buying cheap ones from Advance

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Friday, January 13, 2017 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice Thanks Manfred, I will not be buying cheap ones from Advanced.  I am going to get a set from a custom shop that does off-road and racing axles as well as MB. I really don't want to do my axles every year and a half.  I drive a

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G via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: trainpain2...@aol.com > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice > > Which ever ones you get make sure they are the later kind t

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om: MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: trainpain2...@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice Which ever ones you get make sure they are the later kind that hav

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Which ever ones you get make sure they are the later kind that have the bolt on CV joint on the differential end (canannular). That way you won't ever have to open the differential again to change the axle. That "lifetime isn't all it's cracked up to be. If you ask them for a clarification

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scussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice > > And my problem with "Good Used" is how do I know who manufactured it? And > if I can tell it is a Mercedes axle, it may be on the way out alrea

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s Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice And my problem with "Good Used" is how do I know who manufactured it?  And if I can tell it is a Mercedes axle, it may be on the way out already and I co

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From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Cc: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:02 AM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice >> >

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;mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:02 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice > > The boots are fine. > > It is the CV joint where it enters the hub that is going bad. Knocking on > left t

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boot, new balls, new grease... -Curt From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice The b

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ebenz.com> Date: 2017-01-13 6:50 AM (GMT-06:00) To: > Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Meade Dillon < > dillonm...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice > Can you describe the knocking? The classic failing-axle-knock can be > va

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z.com> Cc: Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice Can you describe the knocking?  The classic failing-axle-knock can be varied by weaving back and forth at highway speed (assuming this is a steady noise, not intermittent).  When you weave to the right the

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a1...@gmail.com> Subject: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice Going to replace the axles on Bella, the 1985 Wagon. I see the average price is right around $95-$130. Chinese parts. MB part is over $500. What to do? Kyle ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

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Can you describe the knocking? The classic failing-axle-knock can be varied by weaving back and forth at highway speed (assuming this is a steady noise, not intermittent). When you weave to the right the car is loading up the left side axle, and so an increase in noise would indicate the left

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I promise I am not just replacing just to replace them... hahaha! The right side of the car is beginning to knock a bit and I pulled the wheel off yesterday to verify that is what is making the noise. The right side is a 2 piece and I noticed that I could not easily google one that was Hence

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Why are you replacing them? Unless the boots are leaking, or there is some other indication that they are failing, I would not replace them. The chinee axles have a terrible reputation, although some say the quality has improved in recent years. If a boot has failed or they are making noise,

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Going to replace the axles on Bella, the 1985 Wagon. I see the average price is right around $95-$130. Chinese parts. MB part is over $500. What to do? Kyle ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To