Plenty of space for six? I haven't actually tried putting
a carseat in the back of an extended/plus/club cab, but I don't
think it would work well.
We've done it. Not a lot of leg room, and the back is quite
vertical, but we've gotten six in that kind of truck before.
Not good for a cross-stat
apparently the fix was to plumb the fuel rails the way they were in IH
trucks, with fuel flowing through the rail and out the back instead of
just ending the flow at #8.
I don't think this is a staleness factor, but rather a
hydraulic 'water hammer'. IH designed the engine with a
flow-through
Stuff that new is not in my area of knowledge.
Greg
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>> Dieselh
Greg Fiorentino wrote:
> At some point IH became Navistar. They continued to make the Ford diesels
> through the 7.3 PSD.
Not the 2003 6.0 PSD?
Bob Rentfro wrote:
And which one is the desirable, trouble-free one?
Last I knew, the 7.3 PSD was the desirable one, but there were troubles with
c
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> Dieselhead wrote:
>> What is IDI ford? Are you referring to Prechamber (indirec
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ford diesels
Dieselhead wrote:
> What is IDI ford? Are you referring to Prechamber (indirect injection)
> as opposed to direct injection? Is this the International engine vs the
> frod engine that replaced the International engines?
They were all made by IH, at
e feet and put the saved weight into an engine
that does not eat itself.
>
> Peter, who is made nervous by pick up truck bumpers higher than the
windowsill of his 300D
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: Ed Booher
>>Sent: Apr 20, 2011 1:01 PM
>>To: Mercedes Di
> Ed Booher wrote:
> Actually, you probably aren't thinking old enough. Get an old
> square body Ram crew. Cummins was first offered as an option
> in 1989. Which I think was also the last year of the crew cab
> until 2002.
I thought the crew cab production quit before the Cummins showed
up. So
> Dieselhead wrote:
> What is IDI ford?
InDirect Injection.
> Are you referring to Prechamber (indirect injection) as
> opposed to direct injection? Is this the International engine
> vs the frod engine that replaced the International engines?
The 7.3 PowerStroke was built by International an
As I recall the later International 7.3s were turbocharged as an afterthought
to be competitive in the market, because Ford's own PSD was late getting to
market.
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 16:45 -0400, "Mitch Haley" wrote:
> Dieselhead wrote:
> > What is IDI ford? Are you referring to Prechamber (ind
Dieselhead wrote:
What is IDI ford? Are you referring to Prechamber (indirect injection)
as opposed to direct injection? Is this the International engine vs the
frod engine that replaced the International engines?
They were all made by IH, at least up through 2005 or whenever they dropped t
Here's some selling a 12v Cummins cheap. Not a quad-cab tho.
http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2336479234.html
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What is IDI ford? Are you referring to Prechamber (indirect
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International engine vs the frod engine that replaced the
International engines?
> Michael Canfield wrote:
I have to disagree about the IDI Ford diesels. I have several
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On Behalf Of Fmiser
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:13 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Ford diesels
I'm dreaming of replacing my farm truck.
Of course, I want a diesel. I'd prefer a Cum
higher than the windowsill
of his 300D
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>From: Ed Booher
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>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ford diesels
>
>On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>
>Cavitation in the cooling system th
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Fmiser wrote:
>
> Well, actually the NV4500 is fine. But I thought Dodge didn't
> get those until late '90s - like the same time as the 24v
> engine. Which means it's to new (read "expensive") for my
> budget for beater farm truck duty.
>
> I think I neglected
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
Cavitation in the cooling system that holes the block.
> Ford's MUST have had their cooling system maintained
> properly, or the engine could be trash, or nearly so.
> The insidious invisible killer.
>
> -- Jim
This is such a known problem, I'
> Michael Canfield wrote:
> I have to disagree about the IDI Ford diesels. I have several
> and,no, they are not the best out there but they tow good
> enough, get decent mpg and are reliable as an old Timex watch.
> My 86 E350 conversion van gets 15mpg towing a 36 foot tagalong
> camper IF you k
> > Fmiser wrote:
> >
> > I'm dreaming of replacing my farm truck.
> >
> > So I'm looking further - but I don't know much about the
> > Fords. A '92 will be a non-turbo, right? I have heard the
> > 7.3 turbo is a pretty good engine. What about the normally
> > aspirated? What's to watch out for?
> > Fmiser wrote:
> >
> > I think I neglected to mention part of my motivation is my
> > 2-door doesn't have enough passenger space, so 4-door is
> > high on the list of requirements. And I don't think Dodge
> > made those long enough ago.
> Jim Cathey wrote:
>
> We have plenty of space, with on
Maybe. I bet that truck was turning 3200+ at 65.
I have the Ford idi's, a Chevy crew cab with a gutless 6.2(that will pull
25mpg@55mph.) and an 89 Dodge Cummins 2wd. Putting the Cummins in the Chevy
this summer. With od and a 3.08 rear should pull over 25 empty @65 or so.
Mike
On Apr 20, 2011
A 7.3 PSD with 3.73 gears can get 10-16mpg, depending on what you're
towing and how fast. Trailerless with the cruise set at 55mph, 24mpg.
Maybe 18mpg at 75mph if you're lucky.
Can get 25MPG in my Dodge any time I want, any time I
want to keep it at 1800 RPM and on the stock tires.
That's about
Michael Canfield wrote:
I have to disagree about the IDI Ford diesels. I have several and,no, they
are not the best out there but they tow good enough, get decent mpg and are
reliable as an old Timex watch.
My 86 E350 conversion van gets 15mpg towing a 36 foot tagalong camper IF you
keep it belo
Well, actually the NV4500 is fine. But I thought Dodge didn't
get those until late '90s - like the same time as the 24v
engine. Which means it's to new (read "expensive") for my
budget for beater farm truck duty.
My 97 has the NV4500. 12V, 2-doors, extended cab.
It's the NV5600 that came alon
I have to disagree about the IDI Ford diesels. I have several and,no, they
are not the best out there but they tow good enough, get decent mpg and are
reliable as an old Timex watch.
My 86 E350 conversion van gets 15mpg towing a 36 foot tagalong camper IF you
keep it below 60mph. Go faster and yo
drcscru...@aol.com wrote:
It does get about 16 mpg maybe 20 on highway. I have never gotten 24 miles
from one gallon. However, I don't think I ever drive 55 on the highway for
very long.
Huge gains are available below 2000rpm. Set the tach at 1600-1700 for a few
hundred miles in one day a
d not for sale. conclusion very well made truck, not great
mileage but not bad for a vehicle that weighs about 6500 lbs.
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Fmiser wrote:
> I&#x
Fmiser wrote:
I'm dreaming of replacing my farm truck.
Of course, I want a diesel. I'd prefer a Cummins, but I'm not
fond of the Dodge body or transmission.
So I'm looking further - but I don't know much about the Fords.
A '92 will be a non-turbo, right? I have heard the 7.3 turbo is
a pretty
> > Fmiser wrote:
> >
> > Of course, I want a diesel. I'd prefer a Cummins, but I'm
> > not fond of the Dodge body or transmission.
> Jim Cathey wrote:
>
> The NV4500 you don't like?
Well, actually the NV4500 is fine. But I thought Dodge didn't
get those until late '90s - like the same time as
Of course, I want a diesel. I'd prefer a Cummins, but I'm not
fond of the Dodge body or transmission.
The NV4500 you don't like?
What about the normally aspirated?
Dad's (92?) is great. Not a powerhouse, but just fine.
He always said it was a bit 'off' upshifting, but I don't
think he wrap
I'm dreaming of replacing my farm truck.
Of course, I want a diesel. I'd prefer a Cummins, but I'm not
fond of the Dodge body or transmission.
So I'm looking further - but I don't know much about the Fords.
A '92 will be a non-turbo, right? I have heard the 7.3 turbo is
a pretty good engine. W
Speaking of Toast:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070125/ap_on_bi_ge/earns_ford
12 Billion - ouch
Andy
On 1/10/07, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Typical short sighted ass-backward Merkin corporate thought in action.
Ford's toast.
On 1/10/07, Werner Fehlauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Trampas,
Good choices on vehicles! For minivans, my parents have a '05 Chrysler T&C
with the stow 'n go rear seating which has been quite handy on more than a
few occasions. The Odyssey and Sienna are much better vans though, IMO. I
currently have the '06 Dodge q-cab with the Cummins engine,
that I need to replace timing chain, rebuild
suspension pump, and fix oil leaks on her car.
Trampas
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That
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That was sort of what I was baseing the 25mpg number on. That and the guy
with the F150 4BT that claimed 28mpg.
I still have a pipe dream (future plan sounds better
2007 21:37:42 -0800
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Colorado/Canyon
The Ranger pickup *is* a Mazda. Same vehicle.
That's true now, but I don't believe that it was actually a Mazda until '93
when the Ranger body style changed over to the current one. My truck was a
1982, actually a Ford Courier which I don't believe was offered in a diesel.
Kevin in Hillsbor
Colorado/Canyon although those trucks are rated for pretty impressive
mileage even with gas engines.
I've never driven one but I'm told they pretty much sell themselves, like
the Dakota did
My dad had one a couple years ago, a little crew cab 2wd with the 2.8L 4
banger and the short 5' bed.
Assuming it can do something like 25mpg I'd consider an F150 with a
diesel engine...
My 3/4 ton Dodge diesel will turn in 25-26 mpg, at 60 MPH on the
freeway.
20-21 for more normal freeway speeds.
-- Jim
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Jeff Zedic wrote:
> But it was a diesel...funny the differences between Ford Europe and Ford
> US.loads of diesel Land Rovers here
> almost enough to make you want one but not quitestill a LR. Going to
> look at a C220 CDI wagon tomorrow.1999.
I think theres a
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 08:15:09PM -0500, Mitch Haley wrote:
> Kevin wrote:
> > Not back then. The B2000 line was quite different from a Ranger of the
> > era.
>
> Do you remember when a Ford Courier was a Mazda pickup?
> Or when the Chevy Luv was a Isuzu P'up?
> Or when a Dodge 50 was a Mitsubish
Kevin wrote:
> Not back then. The B2000 line was quite different from a Ranger of the
> era.
Do you remember when a Ford Courier was a Mazda pickup?
Or when the Chevy Luv was a Isuzu P'up?
Or when a Dodge 50 was a Mitsubishi?
Those little rust buckets were cheap, fun to drive, and got 30-40mpg.
Funny that this thread came up. Last night at the supermarket here in the
UK, some punk kid had a club cab Ford "Ranger" with a short box and 20"
ghetto rims. Diesel engine and he was driving like the total tosser he was.
You should've seen the thing lurch into the corners. I made sure he knew
fro
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 03:13:14PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:
> kevin kraly wrote:
> > I had a Mazda diesel pickup a couple years ago, tired and ugly, but enough
> > for the moving job it was purchased to do. I believe that this engine was
> > put into Ranger pickups, and there was a turbodies
kevin kraly wrote:
> I had a Mazda diesel pickup a couple years ago, tired and ugly, but enough
> for the moving job it was purchased to do. I believe that this engine was
> put into Ranger pickups, and there was a turbodiesel of some sort up to '87
> or 88.
The Ranger pickup *is* a Mazda. Sa
I had a Mazda diesel pickup a couple years ago, tired and ugly, but enough
for the moving job it was purchased to do. I believe that this engine was
put into Ranger pickups, and there was a turbodiesel of some sort up to '87
or 88. Since Ford owns much of Mazda, I would think that this was a M
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 03:48:31PM -0600, John Robbins wrote:
> Kevin wrote:
> > Did in the eighties. IIRC, there were two mazda variants offered. Can't
> > remember if there was an option in the 4x4.
>
> Were they turbocharged? Either way, they probably didn't make that many
> of them...
Can'
Kevin wrote:
Did in the eighties. IIRC, there were two mazda variants offered. Can't
remember if there was an option in the 4x4.
Were they turbocharged? Either way, they probably didn't make that many
of them...
John
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 03:39:57PM -0600, John Robbins wrote:
> Werner Fehlauer wrote:
> > Yeah, but it will be nice to see that 4.4L V8 in a F-150!
> >
> Seriously!! At least some acknowledgment that diesels work in things
> less than 3/4 ton trucks... I'll hold out till the Ranger has one
Werner Fehlauer wrote:
Yeah, but it will be nice to see that 4.4L V8 in a F-150!
Seriously!! At least some acknowledgment that diesels work in things
less than 3/4 ton trucks... I'll hold out till the Ranger has one
though :-)
John
Assuming it can do something like 25mpg I'd consider an F150 with a diesel
engine...
About the only way I'd consider a fullsize pickup.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:23:36 -0500
From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Ford Diesels?
To: "Mer
ry 10, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ford Diesels?
Typical short sighted ass-backward Merkin corporate thought in action.
Ford's toast.
On 1/10/07, Werner Fehlauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This copied from an AutoWeek Email today:
Ford won't use European diesel
This copied from an AutoWeek Email today:
Ford won't use European diesels for cars in the States
By RICHARD TRUETT | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS
AutoWeek | Published 01/10/07, 10:22 am et
DETROIT -- Ford Motor Co. can't make money selling cars with diesel engines
in the United States. So it
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