Correct. 'd get under there, remove the push rods from the levers, and
use big pliers or a wrench to rotate the shafts into neutral.
I wonder if there is a mechanism to prevent engaging more than one
gear at atime in the tranny, or if that's supposed to be in the shift
lever? If it's in the lever,
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gump shift
Correct. 'd get under there, remove the push rods from the levers, and
use big pliers or a wrench to rotate the shafts into neutral.
I wonder if there is a mechanism to prevent engaging more than one
gear at atime in the tranny
R A Bennell wrote:
I really doubt that moving the shafts with a big wrench or pliers is a good
idea. I think that a bit of wiggling
should get it back where it was without further harm.
That was my thought. The one that moves when the shifter goes forward and
back may have to be in
Hood was open so I got out and see smoke coming from the
transmission. Manual trans, and nasty burnt ATF smell.
How big of a pooch did I screw on this one?
Now's my chance to buy a '72 220D! Would you take $501 for it? :-)
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
On 7/16/07, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hood was open so I got out and see smoke coming from the
transmission. Manual trans, and nasty burnt ATF smell.
How big of a pooch did I screw on this one?
Now's my chance to buy a '72 220D! Would you take $501 for it? :-)
You'll have to
You'll have to fight me for it, Kevin. One of those $100 240D trannies from
Benz Friends and we're back in business... ;)
Well, I think you'd be able to get there faster than me because you can
drive! I sure did like that old 220D junker I had a couple years ago other
than its rusted trunk
I had them marked as they came off for direction and placement, so am
fairly certain that is not the screw up. I think it is as Craig
said, I have locked up the transmission and have two gears engaged.
Drive shaft does not spin, so no neutral.
I do not want to go down there and start
IIRC, (it's been a long time since I messed with one) the forward
shifting arms only have three positions and reverse has two. The
middle position on the forward gears is neutral. Reverse gear is
forward at the shifter, so neutral would be when the arm is rotated
fully clockwise (?). Does this
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:14:59 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IIRC, (it's been a long time since I messed with one) the forward
shifting arms only have three positions and reverse has two. The
middle position on the forward gears is neutral. Reverse gear is
forward at the shifter, so
Clarification of my thoughts -
You push the shift lever forward to engage reverse - on our '81 240D,
and I think the column shift 220D was up, so the rod at the other end
of the center pivoted shift lever will move in the opposite direction
- towards the rear of the car. SO it now depends on
Going to cost me more than that to get it fixed.
clay
On Jul 16, 2007, at 1:04 AM, Kevin Kraly wrote:
Hood was open so I got out and see smoke coming from the
transmission. Manual trans, and nasty burnt ATF smell.
How big of a pooch did I screw on this one?
Now's my chance to buy a '72
YOU ARE NOT GETTING MY CAR!
Now quit that idle chatter and let me think about how I am going to
salvage this mess.
And NO! Kaleb can not have it for $502
clay
On Jul 16, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote:
You'll have to fight me for it, Kevin. One of those $100 240D
trannies
Well, I guess I just might have to get a fresh clutch. The old one
was working really well and only grinding on the shifts to second.
and third
some on fourth
almost never into reverse.
On Jul 16, 2007, at 8:14 PM, OK Don wrote:
IIRC, (it's been a long time since I messed with one) the
Correct, all levers are up, so reverse should be neutral forward?
Others are neutral in center position. Wiggle the DS to unstick the
gears?
Going to be under there some more. Will have to grab parts from PnP
to make sure I have something to work with, since the clips are a
huge pain
Now quit that idle chatter and let me think about how I am going to salvage
this mess.
The vultures are circling... :-)
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula
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I think I just hit the need for a garage monkey.
I went back and repositioned the arms on the splines so that they
line up better and tried to get it matched up with original neutral.
Might have destroyed it now.
Had it up on jack stands so the rear tires spun free and could not
get the
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:54:50 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think I just hit the need for a garage monkey.
I went back and repositioned the arms on the splines so that they
line up better and tried to get it matched up with original neutral.
Might have destroyed it now.
In a message dated 7/15/2007 8:49:59 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Had it up on jack stands so the rear tires spun free and could not
get the drive shaft to spin, so with it in neutral I started the
car and slowly let out the clutch. Wheels would not spin
removed those to get at the old bushing material and replace it.
When I put it back on, I may have miss mounted by a few teeth on the
shaft where it was marked to go.
Took it apart to make the job easier, eh? Don't you hate
it when that happens? I sure do!
-- Jim
I am very certain there was no way to get the old bushing out while
it was installed on the transmission, so .
Not going to spring for some garage monkey to charge $150/hr to do
the exact same thing I did for free. I might be willing to pay after
a few more days of messing with it and
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:54:46 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Sorry, floor shift. The whole H pattern is off center and moved
backward. If I am off a few splines would that screw it all up.
What if all three are off increments?
I'm not quite sure how this could have come to
Jim,
the bushings are not in the cabin, but at the transmission. There
are arms that fit to splines shaft out of the transmission. I
removed those to get at the old bushing material and replace it.
When I put it back on, I may have miss mounted by a few teeth on the
shaft where it was
I got my parts order from Rusty (thanks Rusty) and got down to a few
of the tasks the parts are for.
The old shift bushings were dead, so I installed the new ones by
first marking the position of the arm on the transmission, then
removing that and cleaning it up and getting the old metal
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:29:19 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I got my parts order from Rusty (thanks Rusty) and got down to a few
of the tasks the parts are for.
The old shift bushings were dead, so I installed the new ones by
first marking the position of the arm on the
Sorry, floor shift. The whole H pattern is off center and moved
backward. If I am off a few splines would that screw it all up.
What if all three are off increments?
On Jul 12, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:29:19 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:46:15 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, floor shift. The whole H pattern is off center and moved
backward. If I am off a few splines would that screw it all up.
What if all three are off increments?
The approach I would take would be:
- block both
Sorry, floor shift. The whole H pattern is off center and moved
backward. If I am off a few splines would that screw it all up.
What if all three are off increments?
I'm not quite sure how this could have come to be.
IIRC, the linkages are threaded, unless you twisted
them in their mounts
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