Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 6:38 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Kevin wrote: > I'd personally assume that you're throwing the engine out, and with that > in mind, try to pull start it. If it sticks a

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

Kevin wrote: > I'd personally assume that you're throwing the engine out, and with that > in mind, try to pull start it. If it sticks a rod through the side of the > block, well, it was dead anyways. If it lights off, drive it till it drops, > then dunk a used engine in it if you still like the car

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 01:41:50PM -0700, Brian Chase wrote: > I got your point, that's what is important. I wanted to know if in fact it > is trickier to rebuild a Mercedes engine than, say, a Detroit Diesel or, for > that matter, an Isuzu, etc. You get the idea. Detroit probably not so much so

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Steve MacSween wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>In fact, the question still stands for the list. What's everybody elses' >>opinion?? > > > My opinion: get a used engine. That sounds like a good idea. Heck, he could get a used engine and drive the car on that while his brother works on

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

Yup, we did. Brian From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes mailing list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

Only once have I had a pull-start NOT fire the engine, and the temp was -25F. Didn't take a Marshall to understand that the problem involved ice in places that the engineers never intended ice to form. Ok, skeptics will ask for the quantity of data points. The answer is six, five successful.

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

The pullstart idea will *CERTAINLY* remove any doubts. You'll know for sure in an instant whether or not you'll need another engine or a rebuild. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Okay, let's talk briefly about "a major supplier." I have seen some on the web, but need inside information. I know I was told about Tri Star Pete's or Jose's, but what about some of the suppliers that can be

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I have to sort of agree. My BIL is also a mechanic -- self taught, "troubleshooting honors" in an Iowa competition in high school, off to the Army to work on tanks, now a head mechanic where he works. Before he touched my Benz, he'd never touched a Benz before. Didn't matter -- he searched out

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

CTED]> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:09:32 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In fact, the question still stands for the list. What's everybody elses' > opinion?? My opinion: get a

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

Yep, BiL is diesel mech. Learned how thanks to Uncle Sugar. Did the big trucks for years and now does municipal trucks. Showed him Gump and the E300D. The theory was sound, but the actual work was not of the blind diesel mechanic type. We read a lot of MB manual and clymer/chilton just f

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

I agree, Steve -- I'd try a pull start first. And then if the tires lock up we will know that the engine is toast. [Not sure what that would do to the transmission, though.] On 8/25/05, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In fact, the question still st

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In fact, the question still stands for the list. What's everybody elses' > opinion?? My opinion: get a used engine. You only just got the car. If I understand correctly, you have not even driven it. A rebuild done this way adds almost nothing to the resale (as opposed

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ou get the idea. In fact, the question still stands for the list. What's everybody elses' opinion?? Brian 83 240D 122k From: Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subje

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does he need to know anything special, or is (as he puts it) > "an engine is an engine." I know he has questions about the IP timing, etc. Hey, just in case my earlier response sounded a bit harsh toward your bro: I had a w116 SD with an engine rebuilt by a guy who also

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does he need to know anything special, or is (as he puts it) > "an engine is an engine." I know he has questions about the IP timing, etc. Yes, if he has that attitude, he needs open his mind a little. To start with, I highly doubt the transit authority he works for, re

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Hey all, Good to be back on my computer now instead of the public library PC. Now I can pay closer attention to all the responses to my situation. Kaleb, the car is in Tucson. I don't have pics. At the moment I'm leaning toward keeping it. However, the wife is quite wound up about spending a

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

HUH? Where did this come from? Since we're on the subject, I visited Tristar Pete's a dozen or so yrs. ago. He had acres of 111, 108 and 109 cars and parts, and there wasn't a single piece of chrome or glass that wasn't sandblasted or pitted! No rust, though... On 8/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

In a message dated 8/23/2005 2:08:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So is it Tristar Pete's, or is it Jose's now? Both names are on the front. Jose's is most prominent. Jim In Phoenix

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next time it will be the "other" waffle house LT Don wrote: You bet your buttocks I will. Wouldn't miss it for anything. Where else can you get that true Claremore Waffle House cuisine? On 8/23/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: and you will com

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

You bet your buttocks I will. Wouldn't miss it for anything. Where else can you get that true Claremore Waffle House cuisine? On 8/23/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and you will come back next year as well. > > LT Don wrote: > > > Uh, yea, apparently so. I blew $150 to c

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and you will come back next year as well. LT Don wrote: Uh, yea, apparently so. I blew $150 to come to the OkieQ and all I got was a flat tire. Well, ok, I did come back with a Luther Server CPU so I can't complain. On 8/23/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

Uh, yea, apparently so. I blew $150 to come to the OkieQ and all I got was a flat tire. Well, ok, I did come back with a Luther Server CPU so I can't complain. On 8/23/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > then its comprehension you have a problem with? > > LT Don wrote: > > >

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then its comprehension you have a problem with? LT Don wrote: So ... I am pretty sure I know how to read. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.c

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So ... I am pretty sure I know how to read.

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yea, so? LT Don wrote: I was a schoolteacher when you were being potty trained, you little ... :-) On 8/23/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: You need to learn how to read, I didnt say that. LT Don wrote: > I do not agree with Kleb'

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

I was a schoolteacher when you were being potty trained, you little ... :-) On 8/23/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You need to learn how to read, I didnt say that. > > LT Don wrote: > > > I do not agree with Kleb's statement that no 240D is worth an engine > > transpla

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

You need to learn how to read, I didnt say that. LT Don wrote: I do not agree with Kleb's statement that no 240D is worth an engine transplant. On 8/23/05, Brian Chase < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300S

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

wight. Dwight Giles, Jr. 1979 240D auto, 243K+ miles Wickford RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Chase Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Thanks, everyone for the a

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anks again, all for the input. As I figure out what to do in the coming > weeks, I'll be asking for more. > > Brian > poor 83 240D > > > >From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Me

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

]> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 05:07:42 -0400 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There are two huge Mercedes wrecking specialists on West Broadway in Phoenix. Tristar > Petes will even change

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There are two huge Mercedes wrecking specialists on West Broadway in Phoenix. > Tristar > Petes will even change the engine for you. About 2450 West Broadway. So is it Tristar Pete's, or is it Jose's now? May 26, 2004, Jim said: I was at Tristar Petes the other day

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

I was able to turn a new factory crated 617 NA engine by hand with a standard Craftsman 1/2" ratchet and socket on the front pulley/damper bolt. I used that method (wasn't bright enough to try the power steering pulley) twice a year as I did the spring/fall valve adjustments. So - you should be ab

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

In a message dated 8/22/2005 12:21:24 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the input. However, it seems the engine is siezed. We eliminated the battery, the battery cables, the starter as problems. We pulled off the fan & shroud and attempted to bar the engin

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 12:20:38PM -0700, Brian Chase wrote: > Thanks for the input. However, it seems the engine is siezed. We eliminated > the battery, the battery cables, the starter as problems. We pulled off the > fan & shroud and attempted to bar the engine over, and it won't move. Yes, >

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for the input. However, it seems the engine is siezed. We eliminated > the battery, the battery cables, the starter as problems. We pulled off the > fan & shroud and attempted to bar the engine over, and it won't move. Yes, > it's out of gear. Now, after my previ

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for the input. However, it seems the engine is siezed. We eliminated > the battery, the battery cables, the starter as problems. We pulled off the > fan & shroud and attempted to bar the engine over, and it won't move. Yes, > it's out of gear. How long a bar? If

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free up the > > engine? I mean if it want's to be siezed, will forcing it to turn be okay? > > > > > >> From: Desert Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMA

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

s mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:45:10 -0700 Have you tried to pull start the beast? On 8/22/05, Brian Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the other hand, if I choose not to go through the rebuild

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

t-free 240D? Brian 83 240D 122k From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:20:38 -0700 Thanks for the input. However, it se

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

ing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:20:38 -0700 Thanks for the input. However, it seems the engine is siezed. We eliminated the battery, the battery cables, the starter as problems. We pulled off the fan &am

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

Unless the body is VERY VERY clean and interior is VERY VERY nice a 240 is not worth putting an engine in unless you have them laying around like I do. As for the seized engine, assuming one of the assesories is not in fact frozen up, it had to have been run out of oil, the chain came loose so

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

L PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:45:10 -0700 Have you tried to pull start the beast? On 8/22/05, Brian Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the other hand, if I choose not to go through the rebuilding process -- > anyone want

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

Radiator low, engine won't turn, is there a cylinder full of coolant? I know where there is a 1984 300SD with crash damage, said to run well, western Michigan, asking $500.

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

What a bummer about your 240D! Does the car roll at all when out of gear?? There may be a remote chance that something in the tranny is shot rather than the engine. Is this an auto or manny tranny? If it's a manny, how is the clutch fluid (just trying to be optimistic). If you're ABSOLUTELY

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 > >Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:20:38 -0700 > > > >Thanks for the input. Ho

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ct: Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:20:38 -0700 Thanks for the input. However, it seems the engine is siezed. We eliminated the battery, the battery cables, the starter as problems. We pulled off the fan & shroud and attempted to bar the engine over, and it won

Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

Thanks for the input. However, it seems the engine is siezed. We eliminated the battery, the battery cables, the starter as problems. We pulled off the fan & shroud and attempted to bar the engine over, and it won't move. Yes, it's out of gear. What could cause this? I remind you that I was no