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2015-03-02 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Leased a 2014 Touareg diesel end of last year, similar reasons. Very nice. Fancy as any Mercedes. She loves it. I would never want to own a new Mercedes. People who don't have time for repairs only drive them for a few years until they start to become a nightmare, and then lease a new one. Ditto f

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2015-02-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would agree with your observations regarding values, however, the SL people I know are realists and understand that their cars are, for the most part, pretty much worthless. I paid $5k for a 1997 with 71,000 miles on it a little more than a year ago. Everything on it was in excellent shape,

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2015-02-25 Thread clay via Mercedes
panzerwagon owners are seriously deluded about the value of their roadsters. Those cars are not going to rise in price for ages. There are too many beat to crap examples and too few set up like new to get the prices asked. Nobody will be willing to throw the money needed to restore them to #1

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2015-02-25 Thread clay via Mercedes
724+4294963150&Q=3baba286-2ac9-4731-8d40-d683f6d9d22f&Ep=search:results:results%20page >> >>My father has a Toyota Highlander and absolutely loves it. >> >> >> http://www.carmax.com/enus/view-car/default.html?id=11430560&AVi=102

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2015-02-24 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I am thinking this might be worth looking at http://www.mbnorthlake.com/certified/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-38bf7ca40a0a00657da2d4d36fee3e73.htm --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubs

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2015-02-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You didn't specify what model year SL, but SL prices in general are really soft. As we joke in the SL forum on BenzWorld, "Its a good price until your neighbor puts his Mustang up for sale." Dan Sent from my iPad > On Feb 24, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > gopher i

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2015-02-24 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
lot and I would think any problems with durability would crop up. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey [mailto:jim.cathey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:33 AM To: Rich Thomas; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK What do you think? Wife still

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2015-02-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
My 2013 F150 has been fine so far. Only about 20K miles so far but has not been in for anything. RB On 24/02/2015 8:32 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Our neighbors bought a new frod Escape. It is comparable to a toada rav M/L They have been very happy with it. He is a retired car mecha

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2015-02-24 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
gopher it -R On 2/24/15 11:32 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: My friend with the SL is now dangling what would be insultingly-low (if they were mine) prices in front of me. I think he's a 'motivated seller', and he knows I won't screw around. Wife just says: "buy one, sell one". Can't fault her logic.

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2015-02-24 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Wife still reasonably pleased with the X5. It's no 1968-1990 MB, though. The aftermarket seat heaters have been a plague. I still think it is the best-looking of the SUV's, bar none. (Except maybe the Gwagen, which I'd have if we could get the diesel here. But we can't. What I _really_ want wo

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2015-02-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
ML has regular springs GL is air suspension Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 24, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > So the ML350 has steel and the 430s and 550s and such have the air-ride > feature? > > I thought about a GLK but not sure it would have sufficient room to haul

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2015-02-24 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: > I know we are all pretty much cheapasses but wifey wants a "new" vehicle and Not Mercedes but... My wife works at the Ford dealer in CH. At first I was happy that I could get the employee discount, but having seen the "reliabil

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2015-02-24 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Our neighbors bought a new frod Escape. It is comparable to a toada rav M/L They have been very happy with it. He is a retired car mechanic. You are correct, the frod v. kraut decorative differences would probably not be particularly noticeable. She did contribute the criterion that she

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2015-02-24 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Rich Thomas [mailto:richthomas79td...@constructivity.net <mailto:richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 9:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OK What do you think? I know we are all pretty much cheapas

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2015-02-24 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
You are correct, the frod v. kraut decorative differences would probably not be particularly noticeable. She did contribute the criterion that she did not need Bluetooth on the radio. --R On 2/23/15 6:36 PM, clay wrote: How attached is swmba to the lux of having a kraut car over the generi

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2015-02-23 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
. > > > > > > http://www.carmax.com/enus/view-car/default.html?id=11430560&AVi=102&No=100&Rp=R&D=90&zip=67207&N=4294966724+4294963150&Q=3baba286-2ac9-4731-8d40-d683f6d9d22f&Ep=search:results:results%20page > > > > Don Snook > >

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2015-02-23 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I'd guess language in the warranty voids the warranty unless you have service records from an "authorized service center" which, in the USA means the stealership. If you ever had a serious warranty claim, they'd use that to make you pay. Changing oil in these modern cars is as easy as a 240

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2015-02-23 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Thanks! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 23, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > From page 241 of the owners manual: > > Swith ignition on. > Press Up or Down on the steering wheel until the FSS indicator appears in the > display > Press the reset button for about 3 seconds. T

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2015-02-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>From page 241 of the owners manual: Swith ignition on. Press Up or Down on the steering wheel until the FSS indicator appears in the display Press the reset button for about 3 seconds. This message appears: 'SERVICE INTERVAL? RESET WITH R BUTTON FOR 3 SEC.' To confirm, preset reset button until

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2015-02-23 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Can you tell me how to reset the service indicator on a 2005 G500? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 23, 2015, at 8:25 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > Changing oil in these modern cars is as easy as a 240D. You can easily do > the basic maintenance yourself. When I was with Harman,

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2015-02-23 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
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2015-02-23 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Changing oil in these modern cars is as easy as a 240D. You can easily do the basic maintenance yourself. When I was with Harman, I did the oil changes on the S550 and S600 we had there. You can reset the service indicator without any special tools. Jaime On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Curl

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2015-02-23 Thread clay via Mercedes
How attached is swmba to the lux of having a kraut car over the generic interior a frod offers? I would guess that the top end appointments on an exploder would rival the benz and come to the same costs. I would also think the repair costs are fairly comparable. Toss up clay On Feb 23, 20

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2015-02-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
ults:results%20page Don Snook -Original Message----- From: Rich Thomas [mailto:richthomas79td...@constructivity.net] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 9:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OK What do you think? I know we are all pretty much cheapasses but wifey wants a "

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2015-02-23 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I'm confused - is the GL the equivalent of a Gelandewagen? Sure doesn't look like one... GL now means Rich Broad Wagen You may substitute other words into the middle position of the phrase. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.oki

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2015-02-23 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
To me, the only way to own a newish MB is on lease or CPO, and only IF you are near a decent stealership. Even so, they will find ways to dent (not ding) you substantially. I won't drive 50 to 200 miles each way for an oel change. You don't want to own it when the electronics go bad. k

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2015-02-23 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Buy a the real deal. G-wagen. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 23, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > I know we are all pretty much cheapasses but wifey wants a "new" vehicle and > I have suggested a GL or ML. (I lean to a GL just because I like bigger but > she might prefe

[MBZ] OK What do you think?

2015-02-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I know we are all pretty much cheapasses but wifey wants a "new" vehicle and I have suggested a GL or ML. (I lean to a GL just because I like bigger but she might prefer an ML size, there seem to be more of them available, a bit less dinero too) She is totally risk averse so I am thinking some