Re: [MBZ] OT: Mandatory solar

Kollifurnia is full of steer manure. A while back, the state wanted to build a pipeline to be able to drain the Mighty Columbia River so as to slake their thirst. That was not built, but somehow our PNW moisture is being sold down south and the civilian water rates in LA are lower than

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mandatory solar

All the lighting for permitted construction is already required to be LED in CA, which probably has more associated cost than this solar thing. One wonders which will create/save more energy over time. On Thu, May 10, 2018, 9:20 AM Karl Wittnebel wrote: > Gas is dirt

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They would have to mandate it. Of the places where I’ve lived that had off-peak metering where they can load shed when necessary, the programs have all either failed or been discontinued. My current home has such a setup for my AC, which I removed when the new AC was put in. I called the

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Gas is dirt cheap here. There are no electric water heaters, clothes dryers, or stoves. Many ovens are also gas. On Thu, May 10, 2018, 9:16 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On May 10, 2018 at 6:40 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >

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> On May 10, 2018 at 6:40 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I dont know a whole lot about it except to say that it is financially > challenging fir utilities who must revamp grids to deal with distributed > suppliers at the same time that they face declining

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The problem is that the 250w panels are 24v native and the 100w are 12v. If you run a 24v panel at 12v you lose a bunch of efficiency to the point where the cost savings of the larger panel are lost. Being 12v is handy in that we've got 12v RV lighting in the camp and 12v phone chargers etc.

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On Thu, 10 May 2018 15:32:50 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Which reminds me, I need to check in with dad and see if he's bought > this year's panel yet. We're up to 3x 100w panels. If it had been up to > me I'd have bought a 250w panel to start with but

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oun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan > > Penoff via Mercedes > > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 7:50 PM > > To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mandatory solar > > > > While I under

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gt; > Penoff via Mercedes > > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 7:50 PM > > To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mandatory solar > > > > While I understand that no one wants to be told what

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lto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan > Penoff via Mercedes > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 7:50 PM > To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mandatory solar > > While I understand that no on

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My personal desired impact is financial. If it makes sense financially for people, all the environmental arguments are pretty moot. If we had more sun on site, we would have a home array for that reason. And if having an array paid a lot more than farming, we would use some land for that. On Thu,

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What's the desired impact, more of your power from older, dirtier plants and less from plants with the latest technology? Mitch. > On May 10, 2018 at 6:40 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > Utilities are already cancelling power plant builds > down here due to

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.@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan > > > Penoff via Mercedes > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 7:50 PM > > > To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mandatory solar > &g

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lf Of Dan > > Penoff via Mercedes > > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 7:50 PM > > To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mandatory solar > > > > While I understand that no one wants to be told

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2018 7:50 PM > To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mandatory solar > > While I understand that no one wants to be told what to do with their home or > property, I think this is ultimately a Good Thing. I gue

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GOOD STUFF! Thanks! NYC and chitcago going into blackoutfor days or weeks is one way to cure the problems. Though the stench would be bad for several weeks or months. Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2018 19:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes

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On Wed, 9 May 2018 20:50:10 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > > > On May 9, 2018 at 8:09 PM Craig via Mercedes > > wrote: It discusses, the NYISO (the NYS electric grid operator) 2018 > > Power Trends Report > > It's my understanding

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> On May 9, 2018 at 8:09 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > It discusses, the NYISO (the NYS electric grid operator) 2018 Power > Trends Report It's my understanding that, at least in areas with a lot of air conditioning needs, a little solar is a good thing (but how much is

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This is the exact reason why I would prefer to have a solar system and battery bank. And it’s also why I started acquiring firearms and plenty of ammo. In the event of a hurricane and major losses of infrastructure I could survive quite nicely with solar and batteries. And I’ll have the

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On Wed, 9 May 2018 19:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > If it might be good for you, California will shove it down your throat, > I mean, mandate it: > >

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I could see that. We looked very seriously at geothermal when we had the behemoth of a house in Indiana. The builder had clearly cut corners both in design and selection of the HVAC system, and what it had was running on the ragged edge and horribly inefficient, despite only being 6-7 years

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I wonder if they would do an exchange, geothermal for solar? Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2018, at 7:17 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > If it might be good for you, California will shove it down your throat, I > mean, mandate it: > >

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While I understand that no one wants to be told what to do with their home or property, I think this is ultimately a Good Thing. I guess I would want to know how the state would deal with the upkeep and maintenance aspect. If someone is going to mandate that I have to be an energy producer, I

[MBZ] OT: Mandatory solar

If it might be good for you, California will shove it down your throat, I mean, mandate it: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-09/california-votes-to-require-rooftop-solar-power-on-new-homes California became the first U.S. state to require solar panels on almost all new homes,