Most interesting... The devil is in the details, as always.. but it
certainly seems to have promise...
Next question: Is it economically viable... if so at what point of
develoment?
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Thanks Rick, he
Thanks Rick, he makes a compelling argument. He doesn't cover the process of
extracting thorium from coal, that cost may be part of the reason why we burn
coal today.
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On August 26, 2018 6:50:51 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
wrote:
>
>A good
A good Op-ed Piece on this stuff.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2491667
Rick
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It's a "nuke program" so a short 40 years from now, something will get
"approved" maybe..
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Interesting, hopefully the research stage isn't too long and expensive,
> causing this to die on the vine.
>
Interesting, hopefully the research stage isn't too long and expensive, causing
this to die on the vine.
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On August 26, 2018 1:39:49 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
wrote:
Greg sex:
>LFTR power coming soon?
To China and India maybe. Here?
Chances are slim and none.
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Craig wrote:
How true! When we lived south of Calhan, Colorado...
Ah, well - you lived wy north.
Me? - we lived south of Ellicott.
Same REA however - what's the name of that Coop?...
Ah, yes - Mountain View Electric Associaton.
One of my neighbors worked up in Calhan.
mao
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nuclear power
That would be doable with this technology. It would require substantial
initial investment to standardize a design and begin large-scale
assembly-line production. Such a program would go a long way
All agreed? OK, let's do it!
Greg
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I agree -- it could put a lot
Larry T wrote:
Hmm... how about one for a neighborhood? Say, enough for a
few hundred homes? It would open up areas the power company
never wanted to run cables to.
That's what the electric coop is for. And doing a fine job.
If you get to a place the coop doesn't want to run cables,
Fmiser wrote:
If you get to a place the coop doesn't want to run cables,
you won't have any neighbors.
Until you spend $30,000 to have the cable run, and then neighboring houses will
pop up like prarie dog burrows. If you spend the $30k on a solar electric
system, then you get to keep your
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:55:57 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Fmiser wrote:
If you get to a place the coop doesn't want to run cables,
you won't have any neighbors.
Until you spend $30,000 to have the cable run, and then neighboring
houses will pop up like prarie dog burrows. If
, September 14, 2010 9:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nuclear power
Larry T wrote:
I worked on a Breeder Reactor project in Oak Ridge Tn in the mid 70s.
The technology was proven but the govt wanted a commercialized project to
prove it on a large
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I doubt if an economical one-family LFTR could be built. The stuff I've
read
Larry T wrote:
Hi Greg -- Hmm... how about one for a neighborhood? Say, enough for a few
hundred homes? It would open up areas the power company never wanted to run
cables to.
Siemens has a technology that could come in to play sometime soon more
widely. Scandinavian countries have
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:36:05 -0400 Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net
wrote:
I thought I'd heard some satellites are nuclear powered? Nonsense? or
true?
Yes, it is true. The satellites that go to the far reaches of the solar
system are nuclear powered because the sun is so dim solar cells are not
way to jump-start our economy.
Greg
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Hi Greg --
Hmm... how about
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Could small reactors to power a single family home, an apartment bldg or a
office bldg be developed? Seems the market for that would
Fiorentinogf...@dslnorthwest.net
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I am NOT a nuclear physicist, but had some advanced physics, chemistry and
philosophy of science courses in college. I have had
Alles.
I prefer the natural one that appears at sunrise every day. (World
without end?)
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred. (Sunshine storage medium)
On 9/15/2010 2:56 PM, Rolf wrote:
Speaking of cheap reactors, how about natural ones?
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100912.html
-Rolf
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I am NOT a nuclear physicist, but had some advanced physics, chemistry and
philosophy of science courses in college. I have had a lifelong
PM
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John Reames wrote:
Where will all of this magical radioactive fuel come from?
The half life of radioactives starts the moment it is formed; for any
significant quantities to exist it would have to have
Larry T wrote:
I worked on a Breeder Reactor project in Oak Ridge Tn in the mid 70s.
The technology was proven but the govt wanted a commercialized project
to prove it on a large scale. Then they killed funding after spending
$2B (IIRC) out of a total project cost of $3.5B for engineering,
I want one for my flying car.
--R
On 9/14/2010 9:22 PM, Larry T wrote:
Could small reactors to power a single family home, an apartment bldg
or a office bldg be developed? Seems the market for that would be
huge - just because the fuel itself has little cost doesn't mean the
technology has
Gore from TN? Wasn't he later known as albore? Albore is the world
renowned expert on all things. He thinks himself to be bigger than
God! He even invented the internet! All praise be to albore.
I heard a rumor that he is even a big movie star. I heard another
story that he was once the
on the battery
powered cars for the greenies to feel good while driving around.
-Max
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Thanks for sharing Mitch!
I wonder if the U.N. could insist that non-nuke countries seeking nuclear power
use thorium vice uranium technology, which eliminates the possibility
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:39 -0500, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
If the utility companies and EPRI can't figure out a reason to force
regulators think that Thorium power is more valuable than current
power sources, they will fight it tooth and nail. They don't like
essentially free
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:35 -0700, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net
wrote:
It's not magical, it's just a technology that has not been pursued.
Most of our nuclear technology has developed around the weaponization
capabilities of Uranium. Thorium as used in the LFTR is useless for
this
This is true to some extent. The exception is that supply and demand
for electricity is not a free market, so normal economics don't apply
directly, because this is a regulated monopoly
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:39 -0500, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
If the utility companies and
Allan Streib wrote:
...people were likewise excited about the prospect
of electricity too cheap to meter. Didn't really work out
that way... places with lots of nuclear generation (e.g.
Chicago) have some of the most expensive electricity in the
country.
Maybe that had more to do with the
I know there's at least one nuclear physicist on this list, so what do you think
of this?
Mitch
There is no certain bet in nuclear physics but work by Nobel laureate Carlo
Rubbia at CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research) on the use of
thorium as a cheap, clean and safe
waiting for?
Greg
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I know there's at least one nuclear physicist
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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Nuclear power
I know there's at least one nuclear physicist on this list, so what do you
think
of this?
Mitch
money.
What the heck are we waiting for?
Greg
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On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Nuclear power
I know there's at least
. But it is imperative that
we do so now.
Greg
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On Behalf Of John Reames
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nuclear power
Where will all
I am not a nuclear physicist either.
As I see it, here is the big problem, other than
commercializing the technology:
You can run civilisation on thorium for hundreds
of thousands of years, and it's essentially free.
You don't have to deal with uranium cartels, he
said.
If the utility
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According to the article it is a by product of current mining
standards. I too am skeptical, after all no mention of a working
solution was mentioned, Greg do you know of any working solutions?
A little reading
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nuclear power
I am not a nuclear physicist either.
As I see it, here is the big problem
inexpensive power
generation.
Greg
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Nuclear power
I am not a nuclear physicist
John Reames wrote:
Where will all of this magical radioactive fuel come from?
The half life of radioactives starts the moment it is formed; for any
significant quantities to exist it would have to have a really long half life,
be produced by the breakdown of something else, or there was a LOT
The Wiki on Thorium talks about breeding Th(232) to U(233) in a
continuous process. Is this the 'breeder reactor' that has been talked
about since the 1970s?
'Breeder' refers to any cycle that produces more fuel than it
uses up, from nominally less- or non-radioactive materials.
Of course,
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